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Old 11-15-2007, 04:07 PM   #1
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Attn: Site Owners Looking To Get Out Of The Biz.

People who are getting out, feel free to hit me up if you want to sell your site. Its no secret making money in the biz is getting more difficult.

Best to get some value out of it now before its too late.

Ive seen throughout history where people get too emotionally attched to their biz and go down with the ship. Nothing wrong with that I can understand. But if you are looking to get out, at least consider selling before you get to a point and cant.

Be smart.. If you see things getting bad the smart thing to do is sell.
Or at least get some offers.

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Old 11-15-2007, 04:10 PM   #2
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Rough translations: You are getting squeezed, we will buy your site out for pennies on the dollar and profit grandly as soon as things turn back up right in the next few months.

Good business move, sort of like flipping distressed properties.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:12 PM   #3
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Nahh...

I know lots of people are looking to get out. Some owners may feel that the sites arent even worth the hastle and may feel to ride it out or let the sites die..

Im just saying, think about selling while they still have some value..

No need to just let a site die.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:12 PM   #4
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Nice new segment. Flipping adult online properties. There's many mainstream versions of this as well--the most profitable are in the finance/forex subniche.
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boneprone is right, adult is going 2 shit....jump ship now while you still can!

and feel free to send me counter offers on boneprones offers

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Old 11-15-2007, 04:22 PM   #7
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US is still at least a place where you can get quite realistically some capital flowing in within a reasonable time, cause it has a tradition there.

Europe is way more conservative in this and not many guys will take a risk.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:26 PM   #8
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US is still at least a place where you can get quite realistically some capital flowing in within a reasonable time, cause it has a tradition there.

Europe is way more conservative in this and not many guys will take a risk.

Thats becasue you guys are smart..

Everyone here knows Im a gambler and I like to take risk. Its no secret.

I lose more money in a month than most people here make in a year..

Wait... That doesnt sound good does it??

But its true.

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Speaking of which, Tim if you are reading this, I am VERY intrested yes in buying your AWI message board.

Hit me up and consider it before it really is too late.

I think the BP4L would do an excellent job with an otherwise soon to die site.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:31 PM   #11
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:33 PM   #12
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Glad this wasn't posted 3 months ago, I may have done it.

Weren't you and I chatting about 3 months ago??

Shit man. You should have said something!

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lol.. funny thread , you're telling people you gamble more in a month then many here make in a year. I guess the asking prices went UP after that comment.

Smart move.
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lol.. funny thread , you're telling people you gamble more in a month then many here make in a year. I guess the asking prices went UP after that comment.

Smart move.
Sure. Im willing to give fair value for someone's hard work.

Im not here to scam anyone. I have a great reputation in this biz. And one thing I dont do is take advantage of people..

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Speaking of which, Tim if you are reading this, I am VERY intrested yes in buying your AWI message board.

Hit me up and consider it before it really is too late.

I think the BP4L would do an excellent job with an otherwise soon to die site.
Boneprone speaks the truth

P.S.: I believe AFF are looking to sell but I doubt you would be interested.
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Boneprone speaks the truth

P.S.: I believe AFF are looking to sell but I doubt you would be interested.
No way I could afford or get capital for a purchase like that. Im talking site owners here. Im not equiped equity wise to purchase large companies.

Way out of my league..

Large programs are out of my budget.
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Speaking of which, Tim if you are reading this, I am VERY intrested yes in buying your AWI message board.

Hit me up and consider it before it really is too late.

I think the BP4L would do an excellent job with an otherwise soon to die site.

Tim dosen't seem to care anymore. We didn't see that guy since months
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Speaking of which, Tim if you are reading this, I am VERY intrested yes in buying your AWI message board.

Hit me up and consider it before it really is too late.

I think the BP4L would do an excellent job with an otherwise soon to die site.
Would love to see that happen.. I hate to see that place go down the tubes like it is.
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boneprone is right, adult is going 2 shit....jump ship now while you still can!

and feel free to send me counter offers on boneprones offers

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pr0 is right about boneprone and kinda helping out adult business owners that are looking to sell

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No way I could afford or get capital for a purchase like that. Im talking site owners here. Im not equiped equity wise to purchase large companies.

Way out of my league..

Large programs are out of my budget.
At what price does the large company start for you?
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Rough translations: You are getting squeezed, we will buy your site out for pennies on the dollar and profit grandly as soon as things turn back up right in the next few months.

Good business move, sort of like flipping distressed properties.
Yep, its called business. Smart people do NOT stay on board as the place goes to shit. They sell out at the peak and let someone else take the ride down to the bottom.
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I have some exclusive solo sites that were generating $20k to $40k per year, that I discontinued after the models quit since Asian Diva Girls has been taking up most of my time (I even have previously unpublished pix and vids of them).

Let me know if you are interested...

Crazy me, I am developing several new solo models sites, am considering joining with an established Affiliate program (if the price is right), and may even create a second multi-model site to post the backlog of photo sets and videos that I have not posted on ADG yet (I have hundreds of unposted photo sets and videos, but only post 80 or so per year on ADG - plus I keep shooting more content every week).

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The porn business overall, yes.

But many of the old on-line delivery formats, such as the traditional adult content site, are suffering from the satuation of free content that's so accessible...

While free content has always been around, such as in newsgroups, ftp sites, etc it often required some knowledge and extra effort, let alone decent bandwidth - not anymore ... most people have fast connections, and thus only need open a browser window - within seconds access more porn than they could ever view in a lifetime; no need to ever pay.

Not all is doom and gloom though - dating sites and similar are doing well and will continue to - people will pay to meet others, if they perceive the service adding some sort of value, such as easy of search / profiling matching, background checks, member-only events, etc.

Another example are content sites that innovate, such as utilizing virtual reality in which users can be immersed / interact with the content, also have a bright future.

But innovation often takes much effort - so for folks who don't have the desire, time, money, etc to do so, likely do best to sell and move on to something else.

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The porn business overall, yes.

But many of the old on-line delivery formats, such as the traditional adult content site, are suffering from the satuation of free content that's so accessible...

While free content has always been around, such as in newsgroups, ftp sites, etc it often required some knowledge and extra effort, let alone decent bandwidth - not anymore ... most people have fast connections, and thus only need open a browser window - within seconds access more porn than they could ever view in a lifetime; no need to ever pay.

Not all is doom and gloom though - dating sites and similar are doing well and will continue to - people will pay to meet others, if they perceive the service adding some sort of value, such as easy of search / profiling matching, background checks, member-only events, etc.

Another example are content sites that innovate, such as utilizing virtual reality in which users can be immersed / interact with the content, also have a bright future.

But innovation often takes much effort - so for folks who don't have the desire, time, money, etc to do so, likely do best to sell and move on to something else.

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The porn business overall, yes.

But many of the old on-line delivery formats, such as the traditional adult content site, are suffering from the satuation of free content that's so accessible...

While free content has always been around, such as in newsgroups, ftp sites, etc it often required some knowledge and extra effort, let alone decent bandwidth - not anymore ... most people have fast connections, and thus only need open a browser window - within seconds access more porn than they could ever view in a lifetime; no need to ever pay.

Not all is doom and gloom though - dating sites and similar are doing well and will continue to - people will pay to meet others, if they perceive the service adding some sort of value, such as easy of search / profiling matching, background checks, member-only events, etc.

Another example are content sites that innovate, such as utilizing virtual reality in which users can be immersed / interact with the content, also have a bright future.

But innovation often takes much effort - so for folks who don't have the desire, time, money, etc to do so, likely do best to sell and move on to something else.

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Not so fast...

Much of the free porn you speak of that is damaging to the adult biz, such as entire downloads of complete DVDs/sites/scenes, is based upon content/copyright theft.

Such behavior should not be applauded, since it will result in more and more people that create the content to be forced out of business, and less work for the remaining performers. We're already seeing this...

The law will eventually catch up with the technology, and many of these thieves will find themselves facing huge fines that put them out of business, and lengthy jail sentences (amen to that).

Also, do not be so quick to laud the practices of some of the non-content producing companies that are profiting by advertising on the web sites operated by thieves.

What many of these companies are engaged in is a form of racketeering, where they profit from advertising on sites, while aiding and abetting the content thieves (since in many if not most instances, the advertisers are the primary/sole source of income for the thieves).

Let's also not forget that many of the pill/drug sites are operating illegally, and many of the dating sites are out and out shams, that swindle people left and right, with false profiles, and upsells to other programs (such as cam shows) that they also operate.

The thieves and scammers are having their day, but their days are numbered.

Eventually, if they keep at it, they will end up out of business and/or in jail.

Support your local content producer...

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Not so fast...

Much of the free porn you speak of that is damaging to the adult biz, such as entire downloads of complete DVDs/sites/scenes, is based upon content/copyright theft.

Such behavior should not be applauded, since it will result in more and more people that create the content to be forced out of business, and less work for the remaining performers. We're already seeing this...

The law will eventually catch up with the technology, and many of these thieves will find themselves facing huge fines that put them out of business, and lengthy jail sentences (amen to that).

Also, do not be so quick to laud the practices of some of the non-content producing companies that are profiting by advertising on the web sites operated by thieves.

What many of these companies are engaged in is a form of racketeering, where they profit from advertising on sites, while aiding and abetting the content thieves (since in many if not most instances, the advertisers are the primary/sole source of income for the thieves).

Let's also not forget that many of the pill/drug sites are operating illegally, and many of the dating sites are out and out shams, that swindle people left and right, with false profiles, and upsells to other programs (such as cam shows) that they also operate.

The thieves and scammers are having their day, but their days are numbered.

Eventually, if they keep at it, they will end up out of business and/or in jail.

Support your local content producer...

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And one advice for site buyers- i notices some people who have network of sites,for example network of tgp sites,send traffic to certain site,sell it,and after that stop sending traffic and site become worthless.
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These guys are overseas and out of reach.

And they will always find someone who will pay them for ad space.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:00 PM   #44
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:44 PM   #45
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subsicribing and if anyone got paysites for sale / even if they never got a hit of traffic and look like shit let me know

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