I guess you guys think I'm kidding.

Good luck to you all. :thumbsup

Id seriously want to know how do you make money in mainstream - not the details, just the big picture:


Create decent sites (takes a lot of time)
Swap links
Wait for SE traffic


that it? my only mainstream site made $0.18 last MONTH lol

I can find 100 ways to make a few bucks in pron and 0 in mainstream
if you can spare 20 seconds and post the basics I'd be grateful

I just want to say thanks to everyone who is contributing to this thread. I am new to the industry and will take all the advice I can get!

in pron I can get tons of promo content from sponsors, is there such thing as promo content in mainstream?

Product feeds, communities, there's all kinds of tools and tricks that work better for mainstream than porn.

PPC in mainstream is better because the conversions are WAAAY lower. 1:8 is the norm if you know how to write ads.

It's just easier. I'm not saying there's no money in porn, because there is, but if you are starting out you are better off spending the learning curve time learning how to work mainstream.

Porn is a business in decline. It's not growing. In a few year's times things are going to look a bit different.

In mainstream a good site can be sold for several years revenue. In porn, that same level of site will get you 2 months revenue.

Think about it.

I'll have to do some hardcore reading and seriously start thinking about spending at least 10% of my time on working on mainstream sites, there're like gazillion advantages in that - porn can get hit by some fucked-up law and basically I'll be left with no incmome....

What does the second "I" stand for?

One thing that makes the porn industry unique is the access noobs have to large players/deals:

GFY+ICQ= all the access you should ever need. Be smart about that. Don't waste people's time. Hit them up for 2 reasons only- business and business.

Oh yeah, and test, test, test. You won't know what works best off hand. And other people's traffic/sites, etc. will perform differently than yours. So trust data.

don't fuck tASSy... :2 cents:

I'll have to remember that one..

Whatever happened to the woj 50 bot ?

let Lanny Barbie ass rape you with a strap-on at a show. It's pretty much initiation for Bro Club

I'd say get a mainstream job and go to college if you haven't, unless you really want to make a "career" out of porn. Also, save money for a rainy day. I don't see why a newbie would want to get into porn now. It isn't the same as it was when I was a newb back around 1997. It was easy money then. That's why I quit college, and I regret it.

start with some capital.. don't expect things for free

put some money up and stop thinking everything is free..buy your own domain instead of begging for a sponsor to buy you one..same deal with hosting..because in the long run it is much better to be the one in total control of those things.

I realize all the points you made are valid.
However, I would like a low overhead to start up the money making.
I beleive this is not only beneficial to me, but to the sponsor as well.
(Since I intend on working 20+ hours a day)

I do have short term and long term goals, which include 'total control' in the future. Right now this is not a possibility and I'd appreciate it if you would see it from my side and understand this.

No offense, but I hope your attitude is not that of the company that you're representing. You're showing a total lack of willingness to cooperate and help your affiliates, IMO.


:::PUNCH:::

I have no start up capital.. so I'm looking for "investors" aka sponsors that will help the little guy.

The little guy of today may be the big guy of tomorrow.. :2 cents:

Make ONE great site in a niche you personally enjoy, then ...

promote, promote, promote

Move out of the US.

Always have a mainstream site to show your neighbors.

www.bluetoongear.com

lmfao!!!!

now this is advice that everyone should adhere too! :thumbsup

the most important advice for newbies is:

http://www.adpayout.com/track/NzM4OjQ6Mw/


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:321GFY

post sample pics of your movie thread...

My advice is once that you find something that makes you money. dont stop it, and run it on autopilot and start something new. Duplicate it 10 times and make 10x the money.

get as many BROSSSSSSSSSSS as u can

my advice: make love 3 times a day. dont do more nor less.

Play the members game not the surfers or affiliates game. Three different people looking for different things.

Think like the person you are selling to. Try to understand why he buys, what motivates him and what will satisfy him.

It's also a very tough road for a newbie today. Keep building bookmarkers by giving them a reason to come back.

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Tell me How JDL ! :helpme



Lots of good stuff in this thread thanks again everyone :)

My tip... Follow the rules!

best piece of advice in the thread!:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Holy shit! Seriously? People do that?


Damn.:Oh crap

Never let them see you sweat

Finsh what you start or shut it down completely.

and...

Don't install drive by downloads on your site!

and...

DON'T SIGNUP FOR ZANGO!

I was gonna post like this one but what the heck you are right :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Let me add on to that:

Learn PHP/MySQL/Actionscript/Java and SEO.

Do that and you will always have money.

:helpme ...

are you aloud to make these kind of threads when your a complete newbie yourself?

So why are you different than the 500 other noobs on the board that are in the same situation?

Advice.. Don't quit your day job until you are solid in what you are doing and don't ask for handouts.