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Old 05-18-2007, 11:46 AM   #1
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Time to wake up England...............

............If you think the US is becoming more like a facist state then spare a thought for us poor old Brits. Our good old British bobby's seem to be becoming more and more like the Gastapo every day.

Don't belive me ?

Take a look at some of the bullshit excuses they have recently used to criminalise the very people they are supposed to protect and serve ......


A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"

A child in Kent who was arrested after removing a slice of cucumber from a sandwich and throwing it at another youngster

A West Midlands woman arrested on her wedding day for criminal damage after her foot slipped on her accelerator pedal and her vehicle damaged a car park barrier

A child from Kent who was arrested for throwing cream buns at a bus

A 70-year-old Cheshire pensioner who was arrested for criminal damage after cutting back a neighbour's conifer trees

An officer in the West Midlands who was told to caution a man for throwing a glass of water over his girlfriend

Two children from Manchester who were arrested for being in possession of a plastic toy pistol



If you tolerate this - then your children will be next by The Manic Street Preachers seems eerily poignant at this time.
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Old 05-18-2007, 11:48 AM   #2
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I always thought the real lyrics of 'If you Tolerate this' should have been 'if you tolerate this all our song will sound the same'.

Anyway.. the police themselves released that list and complained that they were 'having' to book people for stupid things to meet 'quotas' ..so hardly a hidden list and not like people aren't bitching about it
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meetu quotas on tickets? seems extreme
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:11 PM   #4
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I always thought the real lyrics of 'If you Tolerate this' should have been 'if you tolerate this all our song will sound the same'.

Anyway.. the police themselves released that list and complained that they were 'having' to book people for stupid things to meet 'quotas' ..so hardly a hidden list and not like people aren't bitching about it

Yes, the real danger to me here is that as you pointed out our police are now having to make arrests for very trivial and insignificant "offences" where as in the past they were allowed a reasonable amount of discretion and an application of common sense.

IMHO we are slowly creeping toward a situation were the modus of our police force is being turned from one of serving the public to one were they are used more like tools of an ever increasing "nanny knows best" authoritarian state.

LOL, the way things are headed in this country in another 20 years time we will all be walking round like labotamised sheep with all the personal freedom of a caged hamster.


Tory government anyone ?
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:20 PM   #5
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A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"

I heard that on Sky news yesterday. Maybe the useless pillocks should spend more time locking up the drunken little teenage bastards hanging around the streets and stabbing people instead of going after people like this guy. Poor fucker probably just wanted an omelette.
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:28 PM   #7
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I bet quotas like that go within a few months of Brown being in....he will want to appear more cuddly and doing stuff like that will please the Sun and the like.

You sort of think the police are making those arrests just to make their point....'what dumb ticket can I give today to show how dumb the quota system is'.
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[B]A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"
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A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"
That can't be true....
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:31 PM   #10
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I heard that on Sky news yesterday. Maybe the useless pillocks should spend more time locking up the drunken little teenage bastards hanging around the streets and stabbing people instead of going after people like this guy. Poor fucker probably just wanted an omelette.

LOL, yes - thats a cracker, but my personal favourite has got to be this one...

A child in Kent who was arrested after removing a slice of cucumber from a sandwich and throwing it at another youngster


.....The lunatics are taking over the assylum my friends
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the cucumber one was the one most quoted in the press..I bet the officer didn't even keep a straight face when doing that one
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I always thought the real lyrics of 'If you Tolerate this' should have been 'if you tolerate this all our song will sound the same'.

Anyway.. the police themselves released that list and complained that they were 'having' to book people for stupid things to meet 'quotas' ..so hardly a hidden list and not like people aren't bitching about it
true that, howeverr in the paper i read about a boy in newcastle who was in the middle of a street. You know he was a peice of work, but he wasnt causing any trouble at the time.

The police loathed him and told him to go home, so he did and as he went home, there were two dogs behind a gate and he woofed at them. So of course the dogs barked back at him. and in turn the police arrested him for something along the lines of "disturbing the peace"

The judge chucked the case out. telling the police to do a proper job.

So nothing to really worry here by this thread.

Even though to get to court it was in £xx,xxx.xx's. Quite unbelievble
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So assault isn't a crime in your mind?
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:47 PM   #14
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I bet quotas like that go within a few months of Brown being in....he will want to appear more cuddly and doing stuff like that will please the Sun and the like.

You sort of think the police are making those arrests just to make their point....'what dumb ticket can I give today to show how dumb the quota system is'.

Yes I know what you mean here Sarah and I wonder whether Mr Brown will be as liberal minded towards online porn as Mr Blair was. Some of the press seem to paint Brown as something of a "puritan" with a strong moral code where as Blair had no quarms about taking political donations from publishers of porn magazine's, ( Paul Raymond I belive ), To me Brown seems more "straight laced" and might not be so easy going about the adult industry.
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So assault isn't a crime in your mind?

Do you mean regarding the cucumber incident ?
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What are cream buns?
Pastries filled with cream, jam, icing sugar ect.
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So nothing to really worry here by this thread.

Even though to get to court it was in £xx,xxx.xx's. Quite unbelievble
There's worry No 1 for you

LOL, that is of course if you do pay taxes
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true that, howeverr in the paper i read about a boy in newcastle who was in the middle of a street. You know he was a peice of work, but he wasnt causing any trouble at the time.

The police loathed him and told him to go home, so he did and as he went home, there were two dogs behind a gate and he woofed at them. So of course the dogs barked back at him. and in turn the police arrested him for something along the lines of "disturbing the peace"

The judge chucked the case out. telling the police to do a proper job.

So nothing to really worry here by this thread.

Even though to get to court it was in £xx,xxx.xx's. Quite unbelievble
Well, they can't clip him around the ear anymore and an Asbo is pointless.
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My travel companion got out of England w/o arrest so you can get away with a lot worst than the examples in the first post ;)
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Yes I know what you mean here Sarah and I wonder whether Mr Brown will be as liberal minded towards online porn as Mr Blair was. Some of the press seem to paint Brown as something of a "puritan" with a strong moral code where as Blair had no quarms about taking political donations from publishers of porn magazine's, ( Paul Raymond I belive ), To me Brown seems more "straight laced" and might not be so easy going about the adult industry.
I don't think Brown will need that headache with so much else on his plate before he has to actually have an election. I have to say, I worry about the Torries with a mature internet...something they have never had. They are more liberal than before on the face of things but the old powers that be are still there and they would love a smut war.

It also isn't like Brown wasn't right there next to him taking the same donations. On top of which Blair is church going Catholic so not exactly without religion and yet took the smut money. I have to say I am slightly intrigued to see what Brown is really like when he is allowed to have a personality..we keep getting told it is there somewhere.
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My travel companion got out of England w/o arrest so you can get away with a lot worst than the examples in the first post ;)

In it's own way that is quite a scarey statement Peaches.
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IMHO the tory party still secretly hanker after the days of Thatcher in many ways but are just too scared to admitt it. I recon it will take at least 50 years after her death for her influence to be completely lifted from the tory party.
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In it's own way that is quite a scarey statement Peaches.
I was kidding! Really!

unless dismembering hookers is against the law in England.....
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I was kidding! Really!

unless dismembering hookers is against the law in England.....
LOL, no probs

Oh, and yes it is - unless your 33rd degree freemason and/or Royalty
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well, actually all these acts seem ok to me

except for the fucker with the egg but yet again if he was cautioned that means that it was obvious that he didn't purchase the egg to make a mini-me omellete but to throw it at somebody

they shouldn't have cautioned him though, simply hit him on the head with the egg
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The other thing is that if they didn't try to have visual proof of trying to stop crimes and anti-social behaviour the people would bitch too.

I can see how some of those things on the list could of had a police officer involved..even if it was just an 'Oi! knock it off' level. The one where they threw something at a bus...I want idiots to get in trouble for things like that (I once got cut up on a bus whe kids threw rocks and the window next to me shatterd) but the question is what level of "telling off" is appropriatenand effective.
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