wow, that was a terribly sad argument you just made....you basically took a heated debate/discussion and reduced it to a 3rd grade name calling fight

jesus, did you just turn 12 or something?

I could give a fuck if you are the chairman of the annual praiseathon.

You attacked people I know and did not even handle it like a man and say I guess I owe you an apology for stating things about you that are untrue. Like cry baby you continued with your accusations.


You attacked people without any proof... just your very vivid and active imagination and you were proved wrong and most of your bitching and complining is that of a jaded guy who cannot figure out how to take his business to the next level. I know Joan Irvine and I know Alec Helmy and they are both very nice upstanding and honest people and you challenged their integrity with aggression.

Did you make a public apology to Helmy... NO instead you didnt like how he answered the question that proved you wrong and now after Joan tells the forum as a matter of record now that they are not and will not accept frunding from ICM...you come back with your conspiracy theories. Sometimes the facts are the facts. I know what I hear and saw you post old links and paint the people you mention as being evil and predatory.

So tell me now I do not understand... I was there you fucking blow hard. I am somebody who stood up with a voice you are a glorified board troll who siots and whasaaaaa whaaaaaa I came up with this in my imagination and will now pass it off as fact whaaaaa whaaaaaa.

... I just had enough of listening to your complete and utter bullshit and want to let you know some of us who know the people you slander are tired of hearing it. You want to mix it up with me fine.... tune into your xbiz.com stream this evening... you might just get your fifteen minutes of fame tonight.

I am telling you right now you are bringing a knife to a gunfight... and I'm holstered and tapping the grip. You like to talk shit about people in public i will one up you i will humilate you in front of the industry leaders and have no problem doing it. You are going to be the example of why trolling can backfire in 2007.

You may not think I know what I am talking about...fine....the 1300 people at the highlands tonight may differ... ever see the bully get his ass whipped and not know when to stay down....stay down Tony

what is the xbiz.com stream? never heard of that

Great thread!

Ok you are off the deep end, I gave you a letter written by joan and Im making it up? Then your threatening me? Cant figure out to make money,I invented a new fucking niche. lol I have helped more people then you could imagine I love my industry and my business and I will call out the bullshit that affects my pocket. I dont have to popular.

How cute a Tony super fan...

I know the people you are talking shit about and they are undeserving so you want to turn this into a flame war let's go...

You people attacked people and you were proved wrong... Joan Irvine is a sweet lady who has no reason to be attacked.

I could care less aboutyour opinion of my writing you are like a little troll gang who like to stir shit up and when a bigger dog bites back you go right back to your cry baby ways. This was about Tony and not you so now you are in this too. Your types harrass people and just expect people to just sit back and submissively and say nothing... In ten years of being in this community i have never sat quiet and do not expect to start because some ... I'm sorry what do you do.... comes in and plays superhero

Good... more material.

I dont like the guy and he has no respect for others and now I am going to attack in kind so people know what it feels like to be attacked in public. and if someone is too ignorant to get the message with articulate reponses I am by no means beneath resorting to calling people names to raise awareness to the character they have exhibited.

It was a sad argument to someone who refuses to take fact over conspiracy theories and attack hard working people who have good intentions. The facts are out in the open and frankly I resented your tone, position, and accusations when discussing the topic. had the truth come to support your attacks I might have felt differently. This is what happens when you attack friends right JACE... others who are your friends will step up is that not what you are doing here the difference is my friends happen to be the people you all sit around and make up your fantasy conspiracy theories about.

I am here in the mix taking part... you guys are like band geeks putting down the football team from the sidelines under your breath.

So keep them coming Johnny big time... get your little gang to attack

I've been wondering this too.

This is really bothering me I never lied and slander no one, I dont agree with you and Im a troll? Those are her words she wrote, its not that old. Did she write a new letter to icann giving the new point of view? This isnt a game, its our livihood. If Alec meant to say no why didnt he just say it, instead of having Stephen do it ,then trying to bait Mike South before finally Im against it? Doesnt that seem fishy to you? My Dad taught me to question everything. Alec owns the paper of record for the industry, I wrote praise for it all the time. When I question now im a troll who lies and slander, when I show you where I got the info after you said I made it up.Im still a liar. This is crazy and not worth it . Im sorry this upsets you that much. If you feel the need to bash me because someone gives you a mike be my guest. The people who know me, know its not true. You want to beat me up thats fine also I will be at cybernet.

Do you know Joan you fucking jerk?

I do and I had a conversation with her abou tthis subject and she told me to my face that she is not for or against them and YOU MOTHER FUCKER YOU accused her of taking money... that is slander.... do you understand that... people you do not know are upset because you are spreading lies...

Do not take your one fact and dismiss you have acted like an asshole for the last week and you have made accusations about people that proved to be wrong...you know you have. I was unaware you were the new FM of the industry... forgive me for not knowing what a great big deal you are.

I could care less if you like me or not...honestly. I am not so fond of you or those like you. Again... you attacked people and were proved wrong...now you are grasping for air. So continue on with your little tabloid conspiracy comments.

And the only deep end I am off on is the one to make you look like a jackass for actinf like one. I look forward to your keynote speaking engagements about your monumental accomplishments.

People...this is what you have to contend with when you fire the first shot at people who are tired of board bullies.

Mr. Jim, what affiliation do you have with xbiz?

What Tony is saying is BULLSHIT...I went through a nasty divorce in OHIO and I remember in a hearing the Judge saying that he has no problem with me shooting porn and told my ex-wife's lawyer not to try to use the fact that I'm running a LEGAL business for "shock value"....And even though I don't do it now, back then I was bring models back to the house and shooting them there..

And believe me, I went through the whole child custody shabang where my ex-wife used porn as the center focus...

It bothers me becuse your "question" was answered and you acted like a dickhead trying to get your answer... you accused them of supporting since Tony Whaaa whaaa did not get his answer the way "HE" wanted it.

I read the thread many times and you come off as pompous, accusing, and all knowing...and what really twiasted me was this quote "It was the way he answered it"

Who the fuck do you think you are? You do not go after seasoned veterans with that kind of recless abandon and think it will go without being challenged on your conduct.

Tune in tonight... you have inspired me...

once again, tune into what? who are you?

give links

I watched the brand grow from the day he started it and I knew Alec when he was a humble hardworking webmaster.

As a close personal friend he asked me to MC his awards show and i have been doing it since 2004.

I do it becase he is a good guy with a good heart and works very hard to be the best non bias pub in the industry period... no conspiracy theries I dont get awards for it I am not nom inated as a result of that etc.

I know some facts about the people you are talking about. i have known them for a long time before Xbiz was up and when Joan started with ASACP and i say it again they have no reason to be attacked. If you knew them as I do you would know they are sweet genuine honorable people who should not have to defend themselves in a public forum because virtual strangers are spreading what they believe the "deal" is....

.xxx has no love for asacp and if you were there yesterday you would know that.

The irony you are upset with me becuse I am willing to step in and stand up to your gang attacks on people who are just nice hard working people.

First BVF go lookup polk county , lady had a small solo girl website .They were going to take her kids away and charge her with obscenity. To tell someone to be careful is a bad thing ?
Ive been in the adult biz since I was 18 yrs old, from strip clubs to jack shacks to the net thats over 20yrs actually god Im old. Im not new. Once again I gave you letter she wrote to the icann which votes on .xxx and im the asshole.All I know of her is the letter she wrote to the governing body and Im wrong.I dont see no new letter from her to icann please show me if Im wrong I will write her a personal apology. I dont understand, I made up nothing. This is my fucking livihood not a game. I challenged here all the time, been called a bunch of names. Also to attack me where I cant defend myself is very grownup, anyone can come on here.

I have been working with the biggest brands in this business for ten years. Hustler, Vivid, Penthouse, Club, dozens of video companies, Webquest, CyberAge, Holio, Howard Stern, Deja Vu, Club Jenna, Max Cash, and the list AVN, Webair, CE, VS Media, goes on and on and on from there....

I host the awards show and thats what I am talking about

830pm pst xbiz.com vs media is streaming the awards...

why do you keep lumping me into all this like I have played a major part in these fights? if you go back and check threads I think I posted a total of 2 times, and once was to try and calm some people down.

yes, I know Tony away from the boards, and I know he means well, and yes I know he can push pretty hard, but that is no reason for him to get threats of violence and guns, that is just hillbilly schoolyard crap.

I am only upset with the fact that when you and your friends are pushed you turn from professional to name callers, from the way I saw things standing on the outside, some people didn't agree with you, the argument got heated, and you and your friends all the sudden turned into some internet gang threatening violence.

I purposely have stayed out of these fights because I am a firm believer that no matter what we do or say, what happens is going to happen, we can't change what is already set in stone...so, please don't lump me into a group, I am on my own here.

Your going to trash me at the awards show? The shame is if you knew me you would know Im a very stand up guy, who is very loyal and a nice guy who has no tolerance for bullshit that affects my pocket.
Jim I hope your right about everything and Im very wrong. I dont know these people personally so all I have to go by are their actions on line. I will say one more time because this is my honor I have never made up or slandered anyone. Also if Im wrong you can go on here look there a bunch of times I have said im sorry.I have no problem doing that.

I also think people get all dressed up to go to awards show dont want to hear about what asshole I am. If they read these boards either they agree or disagree with that already.

Hey Jim kick some ass tonight. I actually watched your last speech video the other day somewhere. Great speech man. But you left out YouTube ;)



Is it 8.30 or 10.30?


This is on the site
http://www.flirt4free.com/_special/X...-player_04.gif

this is getting crazy.
who wants to talk about my pretty pedicure? lol

so, we had about 10 people total from all parts of the globe tuned in, but because the stream was so insanely bad, not one person could catch what you said

I caught little words here and there...something about 2007 being the year that you get back at people fucking with you? I have no clue to be honest...maybe someone else in this thread heard it and could fill us in

2007 will be the year that people will be sorry they fucked with porn.
that's what i heard.

ah, ok....so, did he say anything else regarding his beef with tony?

not thus far

I must still be a noob. I thought there'd be more about 2257 on this 3rd page.

nope just a bunch of ballbustin'

Thank you for posting these comments.
WG

excellent read. thanx for the post!

I really don't see why this is an issue. My participation in the porn industry doesn't involve my kids, and why would it? Seperate office, seperate side of the house... kids aren't part of it, Tony. If I had kids, they'd never know what I do. I'm a "computer consultant".

I was talking about producing content but everyone has a different comfort level.

wow, this thread was ruined..shamed was probably the best all year