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SilentKnight · 10-31-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Exposure is good. EVERY person on GFY needs to know about this and cotact their sponsors and put pressure on them to ban ibill or stop buying ads from them.

I can understand a sponsor not noticing this because ibill signed up as an affiliate but who are the fucking morons who bought ads from them. I would love to see this list of idiots.

This company fucked us out of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But they stay in business and continue to make money off of our traffic from our previous members. The traffic to that site is either from old links or very likely from the millions of email info they have in their data base that are our members.

How can they be allowed to fuck us, keep the money, close the door and then open up a new one, on the same domain, continue to leach off of our traffic, and now compete with us for sales. WTF!?@#@#!

And who are these sponsors that are allowing this to happen ? NO ONE should do business with them.

Watch it wont be long these shady fucks will be selling zango downloads on that site.
This is one of the rare cases I would be tempted to buy zango traffic for the keyword "ibill.com" and then redirect it to ibillsucks.com

IBILL: owes me $35,000 how much do they owe you.

Good summation - and you raise some good points.

For the record...we were among the lucky few who were finally paid in full by iBill more than a year and a half later. It wasn't as much as what you claim to be owed, however it was a significant amount. And even though we were following the advice of our company attorney - we still went through a ton of bullshit to get the revenues paid awhile back.

The fuckers belong behind bars - plain and simple. Dollar for dollar...I don't know why this story hasn't made national mainstream headlines like the Enron or Worldcom debacles.

will76 · 10-31-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

here is what I don't get

they sent out notices back in 2005 that they were starting this site, they were aksing for advertisers for months for it

tons of people jumped on board

now that they switched out ibill.com it is suddenly taboo? yeah, I agree it is a huge slap in the face to those they owe money to, but this has been going on for a year, and people are just now upset?

I believe they even came on GFY asking for advertisers

They didn't come to us affiliates looking for money, I bet it was the big sponsors so you might want to direct that at them. I don't recall seeing them here. Also, I am sure they came as gspotnews and how many people knew that was ibill.

Now what makes it 10x worse is that they are still leaching off of us. They are taking old traffic links (from us) and better SE placement links/traffic (because of us) and using that to make money and compete against us. I would bet anything they are mass emailing old members, if anyone gets one let us know.

I can understand why people are getting upset now. I am definetly one of them.

10-31-2006, 05:55 PM

has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?

Sex Date Cash Travis · 10-31-2006, 05:55 PM

The hell with em' They still owe me money.

SilentKnight · 10-31-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?

So fucking owned!

Good one!

jacked · 10-31-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem

has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?

thats pretty dam funny

every sponsor on that page should do the same

Webby · 10-31-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Exposure is good. EVERY person on GFY needs to know about this and cotact their sponsors and put pressure on them to ban ibill or stop buying ads from them.

I can understand a sponsor not noticing this because ibill signed up as an affiliate but who are the fucking morons who bought ads from them. I would love to see this list of idiots.

This company fucked us out of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But they stay in business and continue to make money off of our traffic from our previous members. The traffic to that site is either from old links or very likely from the millions of email info they have in their data base that are our members.

How can they be allowed to fuck us, keep the money, close the door and then open up a new one, on the same domain, continue to leach off of our traffic, and now compete with us for sales. WTF!?@#@#!

And who are these sponsors that are allowing this to happen ? NO ONE should do business with them.

Watch it wont be long these shady fucks will be selling zango downloads on that site.
This is one of the rare cases I would be tempted to buy zango traffic for the keyword "ibill.com" and then redirect it to ibillsucks.com

IBILL: owes me $35,000 how much do they owe you.

Totally agree Will

One thing that is a surprise - at least so far, is that firm legal action has not already been taken by webmasters actually resident in the US for recovery of funds - or have this corp bankrupted/liquidated and all proceeds retrieved. (OK.. Sure some have taken action and had varying degrees of success - but that is minor in comparison to the majority presumably remaining owed)

Also appreciate that some webmasters may have signed paperwork converting their deal to etelegate, - tho surely there are plenty who were not stupid enough to agree to the introduction of etelegate, and still have funding legally owing by iBill and where iBill is deliberately ignoring these debts.

A possible alternative to boring prolonged legal action is involve a govt agency into aspects of corporate offenses with a view to terminating this company and addressing the role of it's officers over a timespan. This is not without it's problems in establishing actual evidence since, little doubts, iBill will have been causing "deliberate confusion" to cover their tracks - but sure it's there.

I'm not familiar with corp law in the US, but basically it's going to be the same as elsewhere and have no doubts that a corp elsewhere acting in the manner of iBill would already have had a petition lodged for bankruptcy (tho that may be technically questionable - it could be for other reasons) and possible criminal investigation underway.

But hell.. unless anyone, or a group of creditors with legitimate claims have the initiative to start the ball rolling - that will never happen - sadly.

PS Can't say I'm owed by them any longer - they paid out a while back after the usual lies and bullshit and finally threats, - but still willing to do whatever to assist other webmasters have any resolution/satisfaction.

blofer80 · 10-31-2006, 06:38 PM

This sucks big time

will76 · 11-01-2006, 12:21 AM

bump....

TreasureBucks · 11-01-2006, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esnem

has anyone here clicked on the Vivid.com link on ibill.com lately?

Yes sir, and props to you

It would be nice to see the others do the same.

Verotel · 11-01-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by John69

ALL THESE SPONSORS BETTER NOT PAY IBILL!

IF THEY DO I WILL DROP MY TRAFFIC TO ALL OF THEM.

Although your sentiments are appreciated by all, fact is that you would never know if a sponsor paid them.

Paul Markham · 11-01-2006, 02:57 AM

I think the fact that those ads are still there, still directed at the sponsors site and not going elsewhere as ?Vivid did shows how these sponsors feel about the issue.

Also the non appearance of any of these sponsors, as with the adware situation, illustrates their feelings as well.

Are these sponsors scared they will lose less traffic than they will gain?

Are these sponsors worried they will get turned over by IBILL?

Are these sponsors worried about things such as morality and ethics?

Seems the answer to all these are NO.

If they were worried that placing ads or accepting traffic from the biggest con operation to ever hit the Adult Internet was going to damage their bottom line the ads would disappear in minutes or redirect. Truth is they are clearly not worried.

Not only does that reflect badly on them but it also reflects badly on us.

It reflect5s that the sponsors on that site simply do not think a drama on GFY is going to effect their bottom line. Think about it.

bobby666 · 11-01-2006, 04:36 AM

a nice,well done hub

en21 · 11-01-2006, 04:46 AM

DDOS Attack please.... I mean now

MattO · 11-01-2006, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby666

a nice,well done hub

Um..... ok.

pornguy · 11-01-2006, 06:23 AM

If I were the sponsors, I would let them rack up a nice check, and freeze the account.

Then go through the courts to see who they owe, and pay those people.

will76 · 11-01-2006, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I think the fact that those ads are still there, still directed at the sponsors site and not going elsewhere as ?Vivid did shows how these sponsors feel about the issue.

Also the non appearance of any of these sponsors, as with the adware situation, illustrates their feelings as well.

Are these sponsors scared they will lose less traffic than they will gain?

Are these sponsors worried they will get turned over by IBILL?

Are these sponsors worried about things such as morality and ethics?

Seems the answer to all these are NO.

If they were worried that placing ads or accepting traffic from the biggest con operation to ever hit the Adult Internet was going to damage their bottom line the ads would disappear in minutes or redirect. Truth is they are clearly not worried.

Not only does that reflect badly on them but it also reflects badly on us.

It reflect5s that the sponsors on that site simply do not think a drama on GFY is going to effect their bottom line. Think about it.

Just like other issues, if it sticks around long enough some sponsors will come clean and some will not. We need to keep this on the front page so everyone knows about.

Manowar · 11-01-2006, 11:20 AM

That's so fucked up

Martin · 11-01-2006, 11:42 AM

Yeah that is a little fucked up.

ForteCash · 11-01-2006, 11:58 AM

Fuck em

Kimmykim · 11-01-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

The fuckers belong behind bars - plain and simple. Dollar for dollar...I don't know why this story hasn't made national mainstream headlines like the Enron or Worldcom debacles.

LOL, you realize that much of the old IBill management from the period when they were sold to Penthouse/IBD/etc were from Worldcom, post-disaster?

Of course, many of them, including at least one person on Webby's list, are working at another billing company.

MattO · 11-01-2006, 06:00 PM

No word from some of them sponsors, eh?

TreasureBucks · 11-01-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MattO

No word from some of them sponsors, eh?

vivid and nscash cancelled their accounts.

Im not sure how nats works when an account gets deleted, but penthouse also said they closed their account. However, the linking codes are not being redirected.

I would suggest people contact there sponsors and let them know how you feel about it.

will76 · 11-03-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TreasureBucks

vivid and nscash cancelled their accounts.

Im not sure how nats works when an account gets deleted, but penthouse also said they closed their account. However, the linking codes are not being redirected.

I would suggest people contact there sponsors and let them know how you feel about it.

bump....

TreasureBucks · 11-03-2006, 01:08 PM

i'll bump it again

JJSLIMM · 11-04-2006, 04:04 PM

bump... ibill is on the hunt to find new sites to put up on their site. We don't want your business either IBILL. Banned from Evil Angel Cash... BLACKLISTED!

John69 · 11-11-2006, 08:11 AM

Aff And Tcg Are Still On The Main Page

thaifan99 · 11-11-2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimmykim

LOL, you realize that much of the old IBill management from the period when they were sold to Penthouse/IBD/etc were from Worldcom, post-disaster?

Of course, many of them, including at least one person on Webby's list, are working at another billing company.

yep - and its doing well!

John69 · 11-11-2006, 09:30 AM

bump.........

John69 · 11-11-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MattO

No word from some of them sponsors, eh?

some have no morals.

andrej_NDC · 11-11-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DjSap

heh its kind of bunny because i remember when ibill was a reputable company...how times have changed...

ibill was never a reputable company, only a bunch of amateurs who couldn't even reply to emails...they had no chance to survive

will76 · 11-12-2006, 06:15 PM

bump....

nikki99 · 11-12-2006, 06:19 PM

ibiil owes me money

TreasureBucks · 11-15-2006, 10:02 PM

bump this shit

will76 · 12-17-2006, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace

ALSO

a lot of the ads you see on that site is PAID advertising and not them sending affiliate traffic

they have been selling ads on that site for quite some time, you can probably email them from the email on file wqith gspotnews.com and buy advertising on there

i would love to know which were paid and which were affiliates.

will76 · 12-17-2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreasureBucks

kudos to vividcash for yanking there links.

any of these other programs going to do the same?

Playboy - id = 7EA86AC3A
Hustler
Penthouse - nats = NDozOjE,0,0,0,0
NScash
Extreme Paychecks - affiliate id = florida
TopBucks revid = 47351
NastyDollars id = floridatln
ImLIve
Streamray
PussyCash
Braincash
Risecash
Voyeurweb toplist username = gspotnew
Phil Flash - ccbillid = 1204761
AdultCashier - affiliateid = acrgspot69
Platinumbucks - revid = 217316
Favouritecash.com - id = 454

i notice Pussy cash and Imlive were not on there when i checked but not sure if i just missed it or not. NScash definetly banned their affiliate account.

will76 · 12-17-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensman

Sad, very sad.

Lensman, was that a "sad, very sad but oh well" or a "sad, very sad we need to do something about this".

btw, adult.com and playboy links are still live and all over ibill.com.

Tryme · 12-17-2006, 10:32 PM

Way to go Aff, Capitalbucks and LoveDollars

thanks for your support on Ibill

HorseShit · 12-17-2006, 10:49 PM

seems like AFF is all about pissing off webmasters

myspacehotty · 12-26-2006, 06:45 AM

I say everyone running AFF email AFF telling them to blacklist or drop that domain or else we will stop promoting AFF.. Their Affiliate number is:g814244 And do the same with Platinum Bucks as well!. If these people wanna allow these assholes to make money then slam them!.. They owe me also but it was under 1G... I'm sure most got screwed out of thousands!..

nitroy2k · 12-26-2006, 06:57 AM

We have 8 guests online

so aint much of a traffic

scottybuzz · 12-26-2006, 07:15 AM

wtf is their 2257 link going to?

who · 12-26-2006, 08:32 AM

I like their effective use of the free CMS system for the website....

NemesiS876 · 12-26-2006, 08:33 AM

I really don't know that

tranza · 12-26-2006, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

our survay says?!

X

wrong awnser

And what is the right answer?

MattO · 01-30-2007, 04:51 PM

Looks like they haven't updated the site, even their ads from sponsors who have dropped them.

.

ridikuloz · 01-30-2007, 05:03 PM

that site looks like it was done by a 10 year old.

GigoloMason · 01-30-2007, 05:13 PM

The lack of respose over shit like this, and people wonder why people continue to be lil scammers. ;\

WZRogeR · 01-30-2007, 07:31 PM

fuck shit!

WZRogeR · 01-30-2007, 07:32 PM

shit shit!

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10-31-2006, 05:55 PM	#103
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