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Old 10-22-2006, 09:05 PM   #1
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Is Baseball the only sport where cheating is acceptable? Kenny Rogers.

I mean really. Kenny Rogers had dirt on his hand?

LOL

I would think a pitcher knows if he has a big clump of dirt on his pitching hand.
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The broadcast of the game clearly showed something on Roger's hand (and let's not forget that Rogers is among the players suspected of playing dirty...using steroids, etc, as well).

This just appeared on ESPN:

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After the substance was noticed, ESPN reviewed tapes of Rogers' pitching performances earlier in the postseason. The tapes revealed that, in starts against both the Yankees and Athletics, a similar-looking brown substance was spotted on Rogers' hand.


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Old 10-22-2006, 09:53 PM   #10
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just makes up for all the hgh the cards are on ;)
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Old 10-22-2006, 10:54 PM   #11
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I mean really. Kenny Rogers had dirt on his hand?

LOL

I would think a pitcher knows if he has a big clump of dirt on his pitching hand.

Big clump of dirt??? There was no "clump."

How about the next 7 innings? What did he use for the rest of the game to outpitch the cards??
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Big clump of dirt??? There was no "clump."

How about the next 7 innings? What did he use for the rest of the game to outpitch the cards??
He had some dirt stuck to his hand but it looked like he either had a bit of pine tar or something sticky on his hand anf that's why it stuck. Tons of pitchers use any damn thing they can to get that little bit of edge. It's been going on forerever. He did however pitch just fine later but perhaps he kept the sticky shit and got the dirt off it... I dunno. Duncan and Larussa know their shit so if it was soemthing they really suspected as a problem they would have pushed it more.
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lol i know i saw that too, very sad that people cheat like that at the pro level.
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:stoned moises alou pisses on his hands this is just another superstition

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Big clump of dirt??? There was no "clump."

How about the next 7 innings? What did he use for the rest of the game to outpitch the cards??
agreed...dude forgets to use toilet paper cause he is all nervous before a world series game and everyone calls him a cheater
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:18 PM   #16
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Big clump of dirt??? There was no "clump."

How about the next 7 innings? What did he use for the rest of the game to outpitch the cards??

I hope you aren't trying to deny that he had a substance on his hand. Probably pine tar.
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He had some dirt stuck to his hand but it looked like he either had a bit of pine tar or something sticky on his hand anf that's why it stuck. Tons of pitchers use any damn thing they can to get that little bit of edge. It's been going on forerever. He did however pitch just fine later but perhaps he kept the sticky shit and got the dirt off it... I dunno. Duncan and Larussa know their shit so if it was soemthing they really suspected as a problem they would have pushed it more.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playof...ory?id=2635538

I just read here where Rogers says it was a "clump" of dirt.
I was watching the game, i seen the spot. It may very well have been pine tar or whatever... but he still pitched the next seven innings allowing only 1 or 2 hits, without the "clump"




Umpire supervisor Steve Palermo told a TV reporter that whatever Rogers had on his hand needed to be cleaned off. The supervisor said it was nothing suspicious, and both managers were alerted.

"There was no formal request made about [Rogers] being inspected," Palermo said after the game. "There was a noticeable dirt mark on his pitching hand, and after the first inning, Alfonso Marquez, the home-plate umpire, asked him to remove the dirt so there wouldn't be any question about any controversy. And I think if you see the following innings, he pitched fine without the dirt."

"Dirt is not a foreign substance. That's the playing surface. ? There was absolutely no detection that he put anything on the ball by any of the umpires. That rule regards if he deliberately put something on the ball to doctor the ball. There was an observation, and [Marquez] saw there was dirt, and he asked him to take it off."

"It was observed as dirt. [The umpires] have a pretty good idea what dirt is and what a foreign substance is."
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I hope you aren't trying to deny that he had a substance on his hand. Probably pine tar.
Not at all. There was a "substance" clearly there.

However, theres no "proof" it was pine tar. Im not saying it wasnt pine tar, lol.

Palermo said it was dirt, and that was that. All you have now is speculation, and you guys are free to speculate all you want...

have at it....lol
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:41 PM   #22
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So whats the problem here?

Pitchers have been wiping bugers and everything else on balls for as long as there has been baseball. Maybe he did have some extra pine tar to get a better grip.

BUT ... after the 1st inning, it was gone and Kenny still pitched lights out baseball.

End of Story.
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So whats the problem here?

Pitchers have been wiping bugers and everything else on balls for as long as there has been baseball. Maybe he did have some extra pine tar to get a better grip.

BUT ... after the 1st inning, it was gone and Kenny still pitched lights out baseball.

End of Story.
exactly. 7 innings "substance free" and allowed how many runs??? "0"

End of Story.
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So whats the problem here?

Pitchers have been wiping bugers and everything else on balls for as long as there has been baseball. Maybe he did have some extra pine tar to get a better grip.

BUT ... after the 1st inning, it was gone and Kenny still pitched lights out baseball.

End of Story.
I agree, which is why I say it is acceptable.

I think the players themselves accept it as they are trying o "get an edge" as well.
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Yeah, I see it. His left hand is dirty.



So, what exactly is the big deal about this?
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Steroids.

Why?
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might very have been messing with the ball. but he still shut them down without so hard to bitch about in that game.
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Who cares? How about the next 7 inning of complete domination?
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I mean really. Kenny Rogers had dirt on his hand?

LOL

I would think a pitcher knows if he has a big clump of dirt on his pitching hand.
I so hear you.There is no way in hell you can tell me that was not pine tar, and the worst part about it is Kennny Rodgers is a old school pitcher, and those are the worst at cheating between oil, dirt, vasiline, and pine tar they are always using something to get by.
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