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Old 04-03-2006, 01:20 PM   #1
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Epiccash, Jim, and Pimpdog ? here comes the pain?

Seeing as pimpdog thinks it great a very good friend of mine is dead because he was rude to him once on the phone:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=593635

And Epicjim wants to have some fun posting stats which come from really crappy Epiccash traffic (which he failed to mention the traffic source):
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=593802

Also, I would like to add (to extend an olive branch) we did and ex-member mailer to Epiccash which pulls 20-50 joins for any other program we mail, but for some reason only did one join for Epiccash.

A little strange, no?

The whole reason Epiccash ever sent one click to us at all, because Epicjim (in a moment of total stupidity) accidentally mailed our affiliate manager instructions on how to shave Epiccash affiliates and sent us traffic to shut us up. Which we did. I?ve sat on this quietly for a year but if pimpdog wants to spit on my friend's grave, if Jim want to post stats and shit like that ? the gloves are off and here comes the pain.

If you promore Epiccash, I would think twice after reading this ? if they are fucking people like this, can you imagine how much of a scam the rest of the program is:



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From: epic_jim [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:35 PM
To: Chris Stewart
Subject: Re: overhaul of epicmail

hahaha! thanks Chris!

I will be sure to send you guys a lot of the traffic!!

hahaha

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----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Stewart
To: 'epic_jim' ; 'Tanguy de Courson' ; 'Trey Epic Cash'
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:27 PM
Subject: RE: overhaul of epicmail

Great Idea Jim?lol
Let me know when you can give thugs and juggs a shot.


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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:19 PM
To: Tanguy de Courson; Chris Stewart; Trey Epic Cash
Subject: overhaul of epicmail

Epic has been mostly relying on remote boxes to get webmasters to send traffic to our "4free sites"

I want to move away from this and have them track as our normal sites track...and i want to track payouts at $1.50 per email..
Emails will only count if the DOUBLE opt into our system and are not already on the list...

We will also totally overhaul all the member directories in these sites to have many "1click" opportunities...these will also be available on the auto responses which i want to be templated so i can customize them..

Also i want opt outs customizeable with 1clicks..

On the INITIAL auto response requiring them to return to the site to add more info..i want to gather
NAME
ZIPCODE
GENDER
EMAIL ADDY
I also want to tag the email address with what niche it came in on....

ONLY AFTER THIS STEP WILL THE AFFILIATE GET CREDIT

So..user visits site....enters AGE,Email addy.....they are sent an auto response to activate their membership which leads them to our info page...they fill in required info and only then will they have access and affiliates are paid.

When the first auto response is sent to the surfer i want the ability to send a duplicae auto response from another email collection program as to maximize our returns...


I would like a realistic ETA on this as it is becoming more important to what we will be doing in the future with the possibility of some mainstream opportunities.

Please shoot over ANY questions you have as they relate to what i have outlined here...

thanks,
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:23 PM   #2
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who the fuck cares. can't you take this dirty laundry somewhere else?

Seriously can you imagine Gates and Ellison going at it like this in some stupid forum?

Lame
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:23 PM   #3
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Wow... that's definitly interesting.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:27 PM   #4
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It just keeps getting better and better. It's about as fascinating as midget mudwrestling. You know you shouldn't watch but somehow you can't turn away.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:29 PM   #5
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i dont get it (as much as i would like to see it). the only potential for screwing the affiliates would be if the "duplicate" registration form was used as a way to tell the affiliate that Epic already had the email address therefore no affiliate credit for the registration. i don't see that mentioned specifically so i'm not really sure you are making a valid point about screwing the affiliates.

am i missing something here?
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:32 PM   #6
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So what are you trying to say JAY? that other DOUBLE OPT in email programs work differently??

Fucking hilarious...keep digging bitch...I am not Trey....
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:32 PM   #7
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So wheres the shaving happening again?
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:34 PM   #8
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i dont get it (as much as i would like to see it). the only potential for screwing the affiliates would be if the "duplicate" registration form was used as a way to tell the affiliate that Epic already had the email address therefore no affiliate credit for the registration. i don't see that mentioned specifically so i'm not really sure you are making a valid point about screwing the affiliates.

am i missing something here?
No..you are not missing anything other than the fact JAY was trying to stir some more shit...

We were actually giving affiliates $10.00 for every oneclick they sent off the main page after the DOUBLE OPT.....

But jay does not know much about how programs like that work....better stick to links bro....
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:36 PM   #9
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pathetic Jay. you are too fucking stupid to even know how a 4free program works. industry wide.

stick to coke and smoking tranny cock you tweaker.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:36 PM   #10
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So wheres the shaving happening again?
That reminds me....I need to go shave my sack. Have fun guys!
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:38 PM   #11
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where is the pain?

oh jay you are too much man for me.. the pain the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:42 PM   #12
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:43 PM   #13
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Jay, that isn't anything having to do with shaving. That is a standard 4free program system. You gotta have the double optin along with that other step as a means to make sure the surfer is an actual person and also to make sure they speak english.

The rest of it is simply filtering the joins so they can send out the appropriate niched advertising. For price per email, it's gotta be structured that way to squeeze as much out the free members as possible.

I see nothing there that points to shaving whatsoever.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:48 PM   #14
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Okay my two cents not that anyone cares, so what p1mpdogg didnt like someone now hes dead my heart goes out to the poor guy but not everyone has to like eveyrone there are some people on this earth that honesty i wouldnt care if they died. further more jay to go on about epiccash is pointless and really no one wants to hear it. the fact is with or without your buisness epiccash will have no problem so just drop it bro no matter what you do your just making more signups for epic. thats all drama ever does. so be the bigger man just drop it because this is pointless your acting like a little school girl bro.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:50 PM   #15
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I see nothing there that points to shaving whatsoever.
Lost me too.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:54 PM   #17
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and yet another thread that backfired on XXXjay.

I bet he is so mad right now his pale white face is bright bright red.

funny shit!

suck a dick jay.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:55 PM   #18
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:59 PM   #19
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btw.. you posted private info between 2 companies.

wonder who else you will sell out when your emotions get in the way.

I would think twice about promoting you scamming scumbags.
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Jay, that isn't anything having to do with shaving. That is a standard 4free program system. You gotta have the double optin along with that other step as a means to make sure the surfer is an actual person and also to make sure they speak english.

The rest of it is simply filtering the joins so they can send out the appropriate niched advertising. For price per email, it's gotta be structured that way to squeeze as much out the free members as possible.

I see nothing there that points to shaving whatsoever.
As someone who obviously is not involved with the Pimpdog/XXXjay piss, and actually worked a 4Free program in her day, I believe RRRED.

Hell, I can see for myself in the letter there's no shaving involved.

If anything, this made EPICCash look more professional in my eyes, making sure that AFFS get paid on a righteous double opt in.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:05 PM   #22
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No real drama here then?
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I see no razors. No drama. Please continue :D
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lol love stuff like this

sucks the board is slow though
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damn did jay get banned?

shitty day for him.
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I bet my wife would love GFY more than -As the world turns-.

I gotta bring her out here once
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Okay my two cents not that anyone cares, so what p1mpdogg didnt like someone now hes dead my heart goes out to the poor guy but not everyone has to like eveyrone there are some people on this earth that honesty i wouldnt care if they died. further more jay to go on about epiccash is pointless and really no one wants to hear it. the fact is with or without your buisness epiccash will have no problem so just drop it bro no matter what you do your just making more signups for epic. thats all drama ever does. so be the bigger man just drop it because this is pointless your acting like a little school girl bro.
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Am I the only one that thinks this cameron tramp got hit by a revlon truck?

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Hmm, I"m sure the banning is only temporary. After all, Pimpdog is back isn't he. He got banned many many times under different nicks for less.
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and sent us traffic to shut us up.
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Subject: RE: overhaul of epicmail

Great Idea Jim?lol
Let me know when you can give thugs and juggs a shot.


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hahaha! thanks Chris!

I will be sure to send you guys a lot of the traffic!!

hahaha

Jim
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Yeah.. Jim seemed really concerned about you exposing his double opt-in scam, that's got to be the reason he offered you traffic LOL

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thats weak.

shaving accusations like that are a no-no
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GFY should get their own tv series. Have material for many years of drama.
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GFY should get their own tv series. Have material for many years of drama.
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Am I the only one that thinks this cameron tramp got hit by a revlon truck?

It's like bozo on estrogen with a macy's card.
No you're not the only one.

I've said it so much he put me on ignore.
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Which mod banned him?

And if the motive of the ban was this thread, why is this thread still open?
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I'm done with this thread and all the other pimpdog realated threads.

It's just a waste of my time.

Pimpdog used to get traffic from me...now he doesn't.

That simple.
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I'm done with this thread and all the other pimpdog realated threads.

It's just a waste of my time.

Pimpdog used to get traffic from me...now he doesn't.

That simple.
I have a great idea!! Why doesn't Trey send Karups the traffic he was sending to you and You send to Karups the traffic that you were sending his rude ass?

Everybody wins!! We can all hold hands and sign campfire songs and I will send you both a cake
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I'm done with this thread and all the other pimpdog realated threads.

It's just a waste of my time.

Pimpdog used to get traffic from me...now he doesn't.

That simple.

may your 100 hits a week R.I.P with sean you faggot ass punk.
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I have noticed quite a few freeemail programs switching to methods like this. Is it shaving ? not really .. is it a bit deceptive to both the webmaster and the surfer ? possibly..

The problem is when programs make you triple opt-in like that is if they dump the single/double opt's or use them..

When i say "triple" opt-in i mean 1 click send the email , the double optin is when the user clicks the link in their email , the triple opt-in is when they have to enter more information..

Just curious if you guys ( epiccash ) send email out to the surfer even if the webmaster doesnt get credit ?
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