Facts about "Israel" before the Jews moved in. - GoFuckYourself.com

Hawkeye · 07-17-2006, 04:01 PM

There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

xNetworx · 07-17-2006, 04:03 PM

Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, give them a tiny place to settle.

Linguist · 07-17-2006, 04:04 PM

I'm rather neutral on the whole issue, but it was Britain who stole their land and not jews. Jews just settled there after whining to the powers that be, but Britain was the one who stole it originally.

xNetworx · 07-17-2006, 04:06 PM

I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. Israel is a country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms yet they are made out to be terrorists by these cock-clowns on here.

MaddCaz · 07-17-2006, 04:08 PM

damn Israjews!!!!

Sly · 07-17-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. A country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms.

I'm always curious why these people aren't turning over their home to the Native Americans. Hell, white man raped and slaughtered the Natives out of existence. Most of us would still be living in Europe.

jayeff · 07-17-2006, 04:10 PM

Suggestion: read some history. Palestine was created as a British mandate after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the first world war. Unlike the other mandates, Palestine did not become an independent state because the British government had stated its desire to create a homeland for the Jews.

Large-scale immigration, primarily from Russia and Eastern Europe began in the 1920's and increased during the 1930's during Hitler's rise to power. It had created enough pressure to result in violence on both sides, even before WW2 began.

Post-war Zionism certainly made matters worse, but was not the starting point. And if you want to assign blame for what developed there, don't leave the British (or later the US) out of the equation.

xNetworx · 07-17-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm always curious why these people aren't turning over their home to the Native Americans. Hell, white man raped and slaughtered the Natives out of existence. Most of us would still be living in Europe.

Ding Ding Ding

KingK7 · 07-17-2006, 04:11 PM

Pretty much like the US before "civilized" people came, no...?

Penthouse Tony · 07-17-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

Why do you include transjordan in your stats?

Hawkeye · 07-17-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited.

There were millions of Arabs already living there.

Other than that, great point!

Hawkeye · 07-17-2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

Suggestion: read some history. Palestine was created as a British mandate after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the first world war. Unlike the other mandates, Palestine did not become an independent state because the British government had stated its desire to create a homeland for the Jews.

Large-scale immigration, primarily from Russia and Eastern Europe began in the 1920's and increased during the 1930's during Hitler's rise to power. It had created enough pressure to result in violence on both sides, even before WW2 began.

In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

jayeff · 07-17-2006, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

History books for you too I'm afraid. A fund was established in 1901 to buy Palestinian land for Jewish settlers. AFAIK no arab land was forcibly occupied until the 1948 war.

viva celebs · 07-17-2006, 04:34 PM

don't hate the Brits for taking arab land and then giving it to the jews.

taking land was what we were good at. most native people loved us for taking their land and adored us even more for giving it to another group after we were done with it. some people just don't appreciate our hard work.

bawdy · 07-17-2006, 04:37 PM

The Jews were there before the Roman Empire started kicking them out... so in my book they have as much right to be in that area as any other... particularly the musilms that came along with the Byzantine Empire

Paul Waters · 07-17-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jayeff

History books for you too I'm afraid. A fund was established in 1901 to buy Palestinian land for Jewish settlers. AFAIK no arab land was forcibly occupied until the 1948 war.

Hmmm

Who established this fund?

Would the Palestinian land be purchased from Britain?

Is it ironic that one of the major reasons Isreal won in 1948 was its black market purchase of three B 17s, which would qualify as weapons of mass destruction back then?

FetishTom · 07-17-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews.

Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

Still looking for some 'facts' - ok lets all come clean if you hate jews and want them dead just say so and stop fucking around with 'facts' from the LadyBird book of world history for the under fives (Arab language version)

Personally as a non jew I find it amusing that the Arabs kept on invading Israel and got their arses kicked repeatedly and have been whining about it ever since. In short 90% of the fucking problems the Arab world seems to have with Israel are self inflicted.

The rest is just bollocks - as is jew hating dessed up as a fucking history lesson.

Hollywood Horwitz · 07-17-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

who the fuck hates jews in the US? jews dominate the music and movie industry and everyone loves them except you and a handful of other ignorant anti-semitic people.

side note, chicks love jews!

UtahSaints · 07-17-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, give them a tiny place to settle.

what a logic...

jayeff · 07-17-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Waters

Would the Palestinian land be purchased from Britain?

No. From (often absentee) arab landowners.

Just to be clear, as I have commented before, I have supported the Palestinians for many years. I was writing newspaper articles to that end, more than 30 years ago. The reason I'm responding to your posts is because it doesn't advance any cause to have arguments made which are full of basic errors and therefore easily pulled apart. Nor are what, I suspect may be racially motivated comments, likely to do anything except alienate people.

Penthouse Tony · 07-17-2006, 05:56 PM

Still wondering why a thread entitled 'Facts about "Israel" before the Jews moved in.' would include TransJordan in the stats when non of TransJordan became part of Israel and none of it is in dispute.

MetaMan · 07-17-2006, 06:01 PM

all muslims and arabs in the middle east are terrorists, fuck them, let the jews live in peace, if we had no muslims or arabs the world would be alot better of a place.

how the fuck do you sympasize with a group of people that want you dead? and want the world to believe in their religion or you should die? enough with this religion of peace bullshit, the only lebanese guy i know who is half decent is a christian.

they are pieces of shit, who cares about them? to much time of the day is spent of the world think about the people living in the shit hole that they belong in.

Penthouse Tony · 07-17-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

In other words, a bunch of Jews from Europe moved into Palestine and displaced the locals.

No wonder they're hated so much.

No one was forced to leave. Well accept for these guys.

http://www.jimena.org/

crowkid · 07-17-2006, 06:18 PM

fucking terrorist-appeasing-and-cocksucking hippies

im not Jewish, but long live Israel, and may the death-worshippers in the surrounding arab states be destroyed once and for all, no matter what.

stickyfingerz · 07-17-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

I love how all these people on GFY symathize with a government that opresses women, condones suicide bombings and teach HATE. Then they bag on Isreal for defending itself and "stealing land" 50 fuckin years ago. Israel is a country very similar to the US and Canada in their freedoms yet they are made out to be terrorists by these cock-clowns on here.

Dead on. Did we cross paths in Vegas PP?

sfera · 07-17-2006, 06:49 PM

im for isreal.

07-17-2006, 04:01 PM	#1
Hawkeye Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,291	Facts about "Israel" before the Jews moved in. There were several million people living in TransJordan and Palestine around 1947. About 93% were Arabs of which over 90% had been born there. The rest were an odd mishmash of Turks, Xians, and a few Jews. Then the Jews come along after WW2 and steal their land.

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Linguist Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,706	I'm rather neutral on the whole issue, but it was Britain who stole their land and not jews. Jews just settled there after whining to the powers that be, but Britain was the one who stole it originally. __________________ 315-310

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07-17-2006, 04:03 PM	#2
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Fuck Off... It was barely inhabited. Jews have been persecuted for thousands of years, give them a tiny place to settle.

07-17-2006, 04:10 PM	#7
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Suggestion: read some history. Palestine was created as a British mandate after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the end of the first world war. Unlike the other mandates, Palestine did not become an independent state because the British government had stated its desire to create a homeland for the Jews. Large-scale immigration, primarily from Russia and Eastern Europe began in the 1920's and increased during the 1930's during Hitler's rise to power. It had created enough pressure to result in violence on both sides, even before WW2 began. Post-war Zionism certainly made matters worse, but was not the starting point. And if you want to assign blame for what developed there, don't leave the British (or later the US) out of the equation.

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KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	Pretty much like the US before "civilized" people came, no...?

07-17-2006, 04:34 PM	#14
viva celebs Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and protectorates Posts: 681	don't hate the Brits for taking arab land and then giving it to the jews. taking land was what we were good at. most native people loved us for taking their land and adored us even more for giving it to another group after we were done with it. some people just don't appreciate our hard work.

07-17-2006, 04:37 PM	#15
bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	The Jews were there before the Roman Empire started kicking them out... so in my book they have as much right to be in that area as any other... particularly the musilms that came along with the Byzantine Empire

07-17-2006, 06:01 PM	#22
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	all muslims and arabs in the middle east are terrorists, fuck them, let the jews live in peace, if we had no muslims or arabs the world would be alot better of a place. how the fuck do you sympasize with a group of people that want you dead? and want the world to believe in their religion or you should die? enough with this religion of peace bullshit, the only lebanese guy i know who is half decent is a christian. they are pieces of shit, who cares about them? to much time of the day is spent of the world think about the people living in the shit hole that they belong in.

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crowkid o.g. spammer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,240	fucking terrorist-appeasing-and-cocksucking hippies im not Jewish, but long live Israel, and may the death-worshippers in the surrounding arab states be destroyed once and for all, no matter what.

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sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	im for isreal.