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mazdaman 04-12-2006 02:27 PM

whatever. com

chadglni 04-12-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
We have a few feeder sites done like this, one in the program, if the price level is right they can retain better than full paysites and have a lower cb/refund ratio. Our's don't seem to convert as good, but I haven't tried playing with the design / join pages much.

Well, the conversions were lower because I drove my own traffic and it wasn't SE / TGP or similar. There was a little twist on it that I don't want to mention here but I was just trying to make the point to Paul that content is not the be all and end all he makes it out to be.

Paul Markham 04-12-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chadglni
I just told you I did it with $1000 in crappy ass filler content, a crappy ass tour, a $400 a month feed and hand coded html pages the actual traffic went to. It was 100% marketing, and at well over the standard paysite price.

Edit: A ton of the adult sites / programs online now are built around crap content.

So maybe you should give us a URL and if it does so well why not get some affiliates to give you more success.

Everyone tells me of the successes, but few point me to the sites.

Paul Markham 04-12-2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc
The difference is you started with something and not from the ground up. It's like today, I can take a block of money, quickly buy content, open a site and 6 months later I'm making my money back, it's much much easier if you have cash and content. Even more so with the amount of updates you do.

When we started we took money from our own pockets, got the shoots done, programed our own aff software, paid for everything from our personal bank accounts and built it up from the ground up. It took us 6 months to pay us back and about another year for it to be a no worry product.


Another business that made it's return that fast?
Business as in porn, or the business niches in porn? We have many things that make a way faster return than paysites. Even non-adult stuff is much faster return than paysites..

I think the difference in this side of the porn business is the belief that you can get rich quick with no investment and little knowledge. Yes I started with both, but then this would be normal in other businesses.

By other businesses I meant totally other businesses.

As for traffic that was fairly easy, just need to be patient and pay the affiliates well. We now are paying 75% revshare as a promotion, the traffic is sky rocketing. Will be interesting to see what happens when we switch back to 60%.

Plus we do have other traffic sources most Internet sites don't have.

TheDoc 04-12-2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
get rich quick with no investment and little knowledge.

I'm looking but not having much luck :)

RogerV 04-12-2006 10:46 PM

there you go giving the newbies false hope again..

Its as easy to make money in Porn as it is to be a actor or singer
you can make a few bucks here and there but its not easy to be a RockStar

See sig for help

chadglni 04-12-2006 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
there you go giving the newbies false hope again..

Its as easy to make money in Porn as it is to be a actor or singer
you can make a few bucks here and there but its not easy to be a RockStar

See sig for help

Delusions of grandeur.

No it is not that hard. Most people are just that stupid. I have a feeling you know this though.

BVF 04-12-2006 11:23 PM

Oh God..Not ANOTHER Paul Markham "running a paysite wasn't as hard as I thought" thread

quiet 04-12-2006 11:35 PM

making a couple bucks with a paysite = easy. making millions of dollars after taxes and retiring in your 30's = not easy.

Paul Markham 04-13-2006 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet
making a couple bucks with a paysite = easy. making millions of dollars after taxes and retiring in your 30's = not easy.

I think if I had started when you did it would of been easy.

My biggest mistake was not keeping going in 1997 when I opened my first site. But I was making a lot of money working one day a week shooting for magazines and never really thought it was worth the effort.

I told a friend, "Porn on the Internet will never catch on" :1orglaugh

woj 04-13-2006 12:12 AM

Cincuenta!.......... :glugglug

Paul Markham 04-13-2006 12:15 AM

I think one of the things that has made the site a success are the pages showing the surfer what he's getting.

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/video.php

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/updates.php

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/models.php

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/pornteensite/view.php

And what others say about us.

http://www.paulmarkhamteens.com/tour/about.php

Enough sites around the Internet to make the surfer very suspicious and this site shows plainly what he gets.

Jamie 04-13-2006 12:23 AM

I don't think paysites are rocket science. However you better have some industry experience and KNOW your niche.

The days of starting with nothing are dwindling. It takes more and more capital to launch something worthwhile these days (IMO).

Nickless 04-13-2006 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie
I don't think paysites are rocket science. However you better have some industry experience and KNOW your niche.

The days of starting with nothing are dwindling. It takes more and more capital to launch something worthwhile these days (IMO).

Amen, and add to that traffic, i turn dowm clients that don't have traffic sources/skills... otherwise i would be ripping them off big time.

Then, selling exclusive is completely the opposite of paul's business model, we succeed only if our clients do.

edit: typo

Paul Markham 04-13-2006 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickless
Then, selling exclusive is completely the opposite of paul's business model, we succeed only if our clients do.

I think you will find most of our clients come back becasue our stuff works for them.


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