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Troels · 04-11-2006, 01:38 AM

Let me check - I can compare to our outgoing count.

woj · 04-11-2006, 01:39 AM

p1mpdogg · 04-11-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Troels

Let me check - I can compare to our outgoing count.

cool... let us know id like to see your results

Troels · 04-11-2006, 01:55 AM

Very accurate click counting. That's a rarity. Good job.

p1mpdogg · 04-11-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Troels

Very accurate click counting. That's a rarity. Good job.

right on.. now send some traffic!

Troels · 04-11-2006, 02:38 AM

We do - but there's more to it than just counting clicks

It's the value per raw sent that's interesting.

OldSchoolJim · 04-11-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Troels

Good post by EpicJim.
Yet almost every program cater to high payout junkies. You've got to wonder who programs target when they launch their $45 per signup, with 2nd page unique counting crap. It just stinks dodgy business to experienced webmasters. The same webmasters who won't be a burden to their support system and will actually send business. Yet they go after the idiots who want their ass wiped 4 times a day for 1 signup a day max.
We send alot of traffic to almost all sponsors and day after day the same program that has low payouts give us the most sales and best value per raw sent. I really don't care what your payout structure is. Just make sure to count EVERYTHING and display accurate incoming hits. Break them down for more analytic value, but have 1st page raw as primary. Guess what, that's what stats are for...
You'll get traffic anyway since we have our own traffic admin program, no need for this usedcar salesman stats manipulation. It stinks.

Troels...thanks for renewing my belief that there are actually a few smart affiliates left....

chadglni · 04-11-2006, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EpicJim

Troels...thanks for renewing my belief that there are actually a few smart affiliates left....

He's smart alright. I'd just like my ass wiped 4 times a day though, you game?

ajrocks · 04-11-2006, 06:11 AM

There are issues with all billers. 365 is really good right now. Paycom has always had issues, they are just dialing up the scrub. The bad part about billers is you can't just stop sending sales to them our your rebills get fucked. They got you by the balls. Start sending small amounts of traffic to 365 and increase it over a few months.

new_in_town · 04-11-2006, 09:30 AM

So if i read this thread right . i understanded that :

A: Revshare is the go . / get rid of cheap trials just give your members the content they think is worth 40 to 50 dollars.

B: Go with paycom EU (and a second worldwide processor as backup that has something to say in europe) . the euro is a pretty strong value that is going to rise more(in comparison to the dollar) pretty soon.

while the Dollar is (dont kill me for this one :D ) most likely going to fall some more . (iran / petrol that kind of stuff ) although i hope for a lot of you that i am terribly wrong . (not only talking about in comparison to the euro, but most monetary values)

C: keep your business open . Establish good contacts with your affiliates / partners . reward your affils where necesarry .. dont give them a hummer. give them a product that sells well so they can buy one of theyre own .

D: Be picky . Dont grab everyone to promote your product. Take the people who know what it takes to make something work and keep those people informed so that in any case situations like this thread are avoided .

Help the one's that are smart enough but can not manage/setup on theyre own . They will be greatfull and in that way a long lasting business relation is made.

E: fresh content . fresh fresh fresh .

F: more to come when i thought of something .

any one agree's ? anything to add ?

Kimmykim · 04-11-2006, 10:45 AM

Bank declines are growing. I've seen this with every account I underwrite. The impact isnt huge as a trend from month to month, but as a difference from years ago it is not insignificant.

elitetec · 04-11-2006, 10:59 AM

Congratulations.

Drake · 04-11-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

There are issues with all billers. 365 is really good right now. Paycom has always had issues, they are just dialing up the scrub. The bad part about billers is you can't just stop sending sales to them our your rebills get fucked. They got you by the balls. Start sending small amounts of traffic to 365 and increase it over a few months.

Do many companies use 365billing? what is their history like? Aside from the epass announcement which included them I had never heard of them before.

diesel · 04-11-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

The truth of the matter is a LOT of industry woes might be alleviated if as an industry everyone moved away from PPS programs and moved to rev-share payouts. This would go a long way to cleaning things up.

I would bald it and second that!!

And in your hands is the key to it

bigdog · 05-16-2006, 12:22 AM

bump have things improved?

BluMedia · 05-16-2006, 12:30 AM

Things are great here we are having record days and use Paycom for primary.

aico · 05-16-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Do many companies use 365billing? what is their history like? Aside from the epass announcement which included them I had never heard of them before.

bump for anyone who knows anything about 365billing, I was wondering about them myself yesterday.

bigdog · 05-16-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

bump for anyone who knows anything about 365billing, I was wondering about them myself yesterday.

I know pornopushers uses them in their cascade.

vicki · 05-16-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Do many companies use 365billing? what is their history like? Aside from the epass announcement which included them I had never heard of them before.

The company popped up fairly recently but the 'powers that be' behind them have quite a history. I recommend doing some research into that (as with any 'new' IPSP) before jumping on their bandwagon.

As to a couple other issues raised in the thread, decline numbers have steadily increased in the past year or so across all the banks I deal with (10-15 depending on vender type) so I consider that a blanket occurance. I've assumed it to stem from the fraud software revamps etc.
The length of acceptable cb's time limits are more categorized as the banks have a voice/choice in that arena in addition to that of the card associations.

Interesting thread to be sure ;)

bigdog · 05-16-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vicki

The company popped up fairly recently but the 'powers that be' behind them have quite a history. I recommend doing some research into that (as with any 'new' IPSP) before jumping on their bandwagon.

As to a couple other issues raised in the thread, decline numbers have steadily increased in the past year or so across all the banks I deal with (10-15 depending on vender type) so I consider that a blanket occurance. I've assumed it to stem from the fraud software revamps etc.
The length of acceptable cb's time limits are more categorized as the banks have a voice/choice in that arena in addition to that of the card associations.

Interesting thread to be sure ;)

hope it's not ibill

Konda · 05-16-2006, 09:48 AM

It's not IBILL, but I think it's owned by some ex IBILL people that left them a long time ago. They are great people that you can fully trust.
It's the same people as opsbilling.com

Another great 'new' 3d party processor commercegate.com is, it's owned by Safecharge (the isrealian merchant provider that has been in business for like 7 years).

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04-11-2006, 01:55 AM	#204
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	Very accurate click counting. That's a rarity. Good job. __________________ These guys steal your signups: Read here. And sexsearch.com profit from it. Check out which sponsors pay thieves here. And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	We do - but there's more to it than just counting clicks It's the value per raw sent that's interesting. __________________ These guys steal your signups: Read here. And sexsearch.com profit from it. Check out which sponsors pay thieves here. And here's a list of clean sponsors.

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new_in_town Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5	So if i read this thread right . i understanded that : A: Revshare is the go . / get rid of cheap trials just give your members the content they think is worth 40 to 50 dollars. B: Go with paycom EU (and a second worldwide processor as backup that has something to say in europe) . the euro is a pretty strong value that is going to rise more(in comparison to the dollar) pretty soon. while the Dollar is (dont kill me for this one :D ) most likely going to fall some more . (iran / petrol that kind of stuff ) although i hope for a lot of you that i am terribly wrong . (not only talking about in comparison to the euro, but most monetary values) C: keep your business open . Establish good contacts with your affiliates / partners . reward your affils where necesarry .. dont give them a hummer. give them a product that sells well so they can buy one of theyre own . D: Be picky . Dont grab everyone to promote your product. Take the people who know what it takes to make something work and keep those people informed so that in any case situations like this thread are avoided . Help the one's that are smart enough but can not manage/setup on theyre own . They will be greatfull and in that way a long lasting business relation is made. E: fresh content . fresh fresh fresh . F: more to come when i thought of something . any one agree's ? anything to add ? Last edited by new_in_town; 04-11-2006 at 09:32 AM..

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05-16-2006, 09:48 AM	#221
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	It's not IBILL, but I think it's owned by some ex IBILL people that left them a long time ago. They are great people that you can fully trust. It's the same people as opsbilling.com Another great 'new' 3d party processor commercegate.com is, it's owned by Safecharge (the isrealian merchant provider that has been in business for like 7 years).