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Old 03-19-2006, 07:42 PM   #1
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:mad OMFG: You All Better *PRAY* This Creep Dosent Get Elected!

This guy is running in the next district over, right across the state line from me. This fucktard is scary. Clearly, he is a right-wing, republican religious fruitcake who is hell-bent on destroying the constitution. And people call my party (Libertarians, lp.org) extreme. I don?t ever want to hear anyone calling Libertarian?s positions extreme again, as this goes to show who holds the extreme positions.



http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps...0348/0/OPINION

Candidate proposes chopping block for 'porn-pimps'
Congressional hopeful Zirkle wants to spark debate.


JAMES WENSITS
Tribune Political Writer

SOUTH BEND -- Republican 2nd District congressional candidate Tony Zirkle has proposed a four-stage approach to stopping sex- related crimes such as child pornography, rape, sexual slavery and human trafficking.

Stage 4 contemplates the reintroduction of the guillotine and lynch mob into the criminal justice process, although Zirkle said in an interview that he is taking that position "to stimulate debate."

He also said he is in favor of the death penalty.

"If I am elected to Congress, I will introduce a declaration of war against human traffickers, porn-pimps and child rapists," Zirkle said in a campaign release. "We must put fear back into the criminals who are preying on our children."

The first stage of the battle, as proposed by Zirkle, calls for suspension of the constitutional protections of property rights for "porn-pimps."

"Every adultery (sic) book store will be immediately seized and the property will be forfeited to the taxpayers without any process of law other than a hearing within 10 days of seizure to give the porn-pimps the opportunity (to) challenge the sufficiency of prostitution evidence."

Stage 2, Zirkle said, would involve "actual arrests" for those who did not learn from Stage 1. Stage 3, if necessary, calls for "super speedy public trials with severe punishment that is swiftly carried out after a rapid appeal."

Which leads to Stage 4. "If this stage is necessary, then I am willing to debate the idea of returning the guillotine and lynch mob for those who prey on children under the age of 12; however, no capital punishment will be extended without at least four witnesses."

Zirkle said he favors the death penalty but believes current law offers insufficient due process protections.

"One witness can send you to death now," he said.

According to Zirkle, debate could fuel discussion of his guillotine proposal but, so far, "no one will debate me."

Zirkle sought without success to debate Republican incumbent U.S. Rep. Chris Chocola during the 2004 primary election, and he has actively been seeking a debate opponent during the current election.

There does not appear to be much chance of Zirkle debating any of the current crop of congressional candidates.

Chocola, through campaign spokesman Brooks Kochvar, declined to respond to Zirkle's statements.

Steve Francis, candidate for the 2nd District Democratic congressional nomination, said he would debate Zirkle after the primary, "when he wins it and I win and we face off for the general election."

Until the primary race is over, Francis said, it would not be appropriate for him to debate the candidate from the other party.

Joe Donnelly, the other Democratic contender, said that at this stage, Zirkle should be debating Chocola.

"I would be happy to debate Mr. Zirkle after he wins the Republican primary," Donnelly said.

During the interview, Zirkle equated human trafficking with "modern-day slavery" and said he believes Congress needs to take action against this growing world problem.

The Republican candidate, who served as a deputy under former county Prosecutor Chris Toth, said he has derived his proposals from his personal experience "that judges and liberal prosecutors have failed us."

Staff writer James Wensits:
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:30 PM   #2
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That's some scarey shit right d'ere.

I must be a little further north from you and the (MI/IN) state line, but some demented mess fo' sho. I can understand your position.

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Old 03-19-2006, 08:31 PM   #3
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very scary stuff but he wont get elected he is too out there
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:44 PM   #4
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the weirdness that must exist in people to react this way when seeing pictures of people without clothing...
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Old 03-19-2006, 08:50 PM   #5
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hell bent on destroying the constitution? you mean bush?
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:00 PM   #6
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:00 PM   #7
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"Every adultery (sic) book store will be immediately seized and the property will be forfeited to the taxpayers without any process of law other than a hearing within 10 days of seizure to give the porn-pimps the opportunity (to) challenge the sufficiency of prostitution evidence."
A) what do adult bookstores have to do with human traffcking and CP?

B) closing adult bookstores is a LOCAL issue not even a state level issue so to bring it up on a NATIONAL level doesn't even pass Constitutional muster.
Try telling other states how to run their government and see how fast even your fellow republicans turns on you buddy.

C) the suspension of due process is enough to kill any legislation. Is he retarded? Or perhaps a communist?

My money is he doesn't even get the republican nomination. I bet democrats are hoping he does though.
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:10 PM   #8
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gotta love how they always seem to mix porn with children
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:13 PM   #9
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he really needs a new hair cut
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:20 PM   #10
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someone will kill him before he gets to powerful.
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Old 03-19-2006, 11:03 PM   #11
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Don't worry his proposals will never be done even if he would be elected. People will hate him and his life will be misserable.
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:37 PM   #12
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Don't worry his proposals will never be done even if he would be elected. People will hate him and his life will be misserable.

I promise I mean no insult to reed_4 by this... but I do worry about people like this - alot. It is precisely this line of ignorant thinking that has us where we are today. People write these guys off as people who will be unable to inflict any real damage if elected and they don?t recognize them for the threat that they are until its very late in the game.

South Bend is a very conservative area. Its three adult bookstores have been under constant assault. A group of well-connected do-gooders have formed a coalition there called "Citizens for Community Values". They have succeeded in having the stores raided on multiple occasions and passing ludicrous ordinances. They also managed to use ($300K?) in public money to buy two or three strip clubs and close them down.

Most of the community is behind them and they are well on their way to making South Bend a city with no adult bookstores or strip clubs. The fact that one can go a few towns over and buy all the sleaze they can afford is not the point, a threat to freedom anywhere is a threat to freedom anywhere. This Zirkle jackass is no dummy. He knows that South Bend is a great place to start building support for a ludicrous plan like this. Once he gets the ball rolling, other cities will be trying stupid shit like this.

All one has to do is look at Bush to see just how much damage one moron with a few stupid ideas can cause. So contrary to the advice of some, we should worry about this guy and the potential his stupidity has to cause great harm for all of us.

A few harmless flakes working together can unleash an avalanche of destruction. The adult industry needs more regulation and government meddling like it needs a hole in the head.
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:16 PM   #13
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Here are some more of this guy's ideas. Had I saw this piece first instead of his other one, I might almost be able to like the guy. I do like his idea about the illegals, all except for the Amnesty part. But he is still very dangerious, in that he obviously has no qualms about running everyone else's life for them.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps...ws01/603250310
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:28 PM   #14
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Really, show me anywhere that Bush has mentioned destryoing the porn industry. Anyone that thinks that is his goal isnt bright. Its a very large piece of the economy. Only legislation Ive seen introduced has been done by GASP Democrats. Find me some introduced by republicans.
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I hope he is the first one to get chopped off ....
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Old 03-25-2006, 02:35 PM   #15
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