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gfx3 01-13-2006 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
http://roberttaft.com/no_filter.htm

a tool to see if your sandboxed.

With regular search I'm on spot 1
Without filters my main page is on spot 3

I get around 150 hits from google those hits are based on text it found on my site. For the keywords I'm aiming at I'm not even in the top 100 pages. Ok I'm aiming at free sex so tose aren't the most easy keywords to score with :1orglaugh I don't worry to much about google and focus on quality of my site instead. Sooner or later google will like my site when it figured out what I'm doing.

Marshal 01-13-2006 03:14 PM

sandbox is only applied on fresh domain that has already been registered. it exists only to keep domain unlisted until all the past links are dead. you could get a new domain spidered in couple of days (in case it is linked from domain that has been bot-visited daily)...

sandbox a myth? hehe... :1orglaugh

FreeAgent 01-13-2006 03:17 PM

Here are two good threads on the Google Sandbox...

Is There A Google Sandbox?
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/...ead.php?t=9319

Getting Out Of Google Sandbox Using Subdomain & Redirection
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/...ead.php?t=9137

Marshal 01-13-2006 03:18 PM

if there's no text spidered for your domain, you are in the sandbox or not crawled yet...
if you are not listed - you are either banned or not spidered yet...
very simple rules... :D

angelro 01-13-2006 03:24 PM

monro - stop pretending you know what sandbox is... because you don't. It exists even you like it or not. I am in the SEO bussines from some years now in both adult and mainstream and have got this fucking thing called sandbox on some sites... it is a google filter introduced to prevent sites using black hat SEO stay in tops... you pass over it with a continuous good link building.. so fucking stop pretending you are the GOD and all the rest are stupid sheeps... because it's not like that ...

bdld 01-13-2006 03:54 PM

the sandbox most definitely exists, i have a small network of mainstream sites released around the same time that are at 6 months and counting. i've got them listed but their rankings are way too low.

FreeAgent 01-13-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelro
monro - stop pretending you know what sandbox is... because you don't. It exists even you like it or not. I am in the SEO bussines from some years now in both adult and mainstream and have got this fucking thing called sandbox on some sites... it is a google filter introduced to prevent sites using black hat SEO stay in tops... you pass over it with a continuous good link building.. so fucking stop pretending you are the GOD and all the rest are stupid sheeps... because it's not like that ...

Technically speaking there is no Google sandbox, and until there is rock soild proff that a sandbox does exist it will never be anymore real than aliens, bigfoot and the loch ness monster.

Google does however have many different filters, and triggering more then one could cause a sandbox like effect. The best way to avoid Googles many filters is not to do anything that you should not be doing in the first place.

pocketkangaroo 01-13-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Technically speaking there is no Google sandbox, and until there is rock soild proff that a sandbox does exist it will never be anymore real than aliens, bigfoot and the loch ness monster.

Fine. Since it doesn't exist, could you please show me an example of a site registered in the past 3 months that is ranking high on Google for a competitive phrase?

AdultNex 01-13-2006 04:29 PM

Wow, there are some truly clueless "seo-wannabe" idiots in this industry.

The Google Sandbox DOES exist:

http://www.google.com/search?q=googl...en-US:official

boner 2.0 01-13-2006 04:30 PM

51 "adults" in Google Sandbox

:winkwink:

SmokeyTheBear 01-13-2006 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeAgent
Technically speaking there is no Google sandbox, and until there is rock soild proff that a sandbox does exist it will never be anymore real than aliens, bigfoot and the loch ness monster.

Google does however have many different filters, and triggering more then one could cause a sandbox like effect. The best way to avoid Googles many filters is not to do anything that you should not be doing in the first place.

sandbox is a coined term that represents one of those filters.. named after the fact google "filters" site age into its algorithm .. this isnt a "theory" its in their published patent.

if your going to get technical, there IS a google sandbox.. its part of google daycare for their employees.. there arent any websites in it though , and it has nothing to do with the internet..

FreeAgent 01-14-2006 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
sandbox is a coined term that represents one of those filters.. named after the fact google "filters" site age into its algorithm .. this isnt a "theory" its in their published patent.

if your going to get technical, there IS a google sandbox.. its part of google daycare for their employees.. there arent any websites in it though , and it has nothing to do with the internet..

I've heard somewhere that Google calls their volleyball court the sandbox.

FreeAgent 01-14-2006 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultNex
Wow, there are some truly clueless "seo-wannabe" idiots in this industry.

The Google Sandbox DOES exist:

http://www.google.com/search?q=googl...en-US:official

Matt did not say there was a sandbox. He said that there are some things in the algorithm that may be perceived as a sandbox.

Quote:

Q: Does the sandbox exist?
A: Matt said here comes the audience part? How many feel there is a sandbox? How many feel there is no such thing as a sandbox? SEOs normally split down the line. There are some things in the algorithm that may be perceived as a sandbox that doesn't apply to all industries. He knows it works to keep some spam out.
This was pulled from Coffee Talk with Senior Google Engineer : Matt Cutt
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/002809.html

TheJimmy 01-14-2006 05:44 PM

Fastest I can pop one out of the sandbox in mainstream is about 36-72 hours...depending on topic of course...

:thumbsup

Adult, depends on the budget but can be done pretty fast with the right combo of thannngs.


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