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WHAT KIND OF GOVERNOR CRIES AND SCREAMS FOR HELP?????? WTF! Dont sit on camera crying, go get shit done! There are formal processes that are required by federal law. She has to request the use of the strategic firetrucks and rescue equipment set aside for catastrophes. The Feds say she has not. The mayor asked her to declare martial law, she can do that, he cant. She has not. They cant just bring it out. Its not possible. she has to ask for it, and the request goes from there.
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and most of the blame, you can put on the City and state. those asswipe are trying 2 cover there ass now. and the mayor with that rant the other day was cover ass. corrupt asswipes |
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Exactly. Heres more: I'm not talking about the basics thats already being worked on. I'm talking about the fires that are unfightable at the moment. There are specific equipment set aside in 9 locations throughout the US for catastrophies. She has not requested that this be opened up and brought down there. My thoughts? This woman cant handle being a governor during an emergency, too emotional, crying on TV, fuck that, get out there and fix it. |
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Also amazing how much more classy the people of Mississippi (my state :) ) are acting
Jackson, Miss. - Mississippi hurricane survivors looked around Saturday and wondered just how long it would take to get food, clean water and shelter. And they were more than angry at the federal government and the national news media. Richard Gibbs was disgusted by reports of looting in New Orleans and upset at the lack of attention hurricane victims in his state were getting. "I say burn the bridges and let 'em all rot there," he said. "We're suffering over here too, but we're not killing each other. We've got to help each other. We need gas and food and water and medical supplies." Gibbs and his wife, Holly, have been stuck at their flooded home in Gulfport just off the Biloxi River. Water comes up to the second floor, they are out of gasoline, and food supplies are running perilously low. Until recently, they also had Holly's 75-year-old father, who has a pacemaker and severe diabetes, with them. Finally they got an ambulance to take him to the airport so he could be airlifted to Lafayette, La., for medical help. In poverty-stricken north Gulfport, Grover Chapman was angry at the lack of aid. "Something should've been on this corner three days ago," Chapman, 60, said Saturday as he whipped up dinner for his neighbors. He used wood from his demolished produce stand to cook fish, rabbit, okra and butter beans he'd been keeping in his freezer. Although many houses here, about five miles inland, are still standing, they are severely damaged. Corrugated tin roofs lie scattered on the ground. "I'm just doing what I can do," Chapman said. "These people support me with my produce stand every day. Now it's time to pay them back." One neighbor, 78-year-old Georgia Smylie, knew little about what's happening elsewhere. She was too worried about her own situation. "My medicine is running out. I need high blood pressure medicine, medicine for my heart," she said. Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, said he's been watching hours of Katrina coverage every day and most of the national media attention has focused on the devastation and looting in New Orleans. "Mississippi needs more coverage," Sabato said. "Until people see it on TV, they don't think it's real." Along the battered Mississippi Gulf Coast, crews started searching boats for corpses on Saturday. Several shrimpers are believed to have died as they tried to ride out the storm aboard their boats on the Intracoastal Waterway. President Bush toured ravaged areas of the Mississippi coast on Friday with Gov. Haley Barbour and other state officials. They also flew over flooded New Orleans. "I'm going to tell you, Mississippi got hit much harder than they did, but what happened in the aftermath ? it makes your stomach hurt to go miles and miles and miles and the houses are all under water up to the roof," Barbour said. Keisha Moran has been living in a tent in a department store parking lot in Bay St. Louis with her boyfriend and three young children since the hurricane struck. She said National Guardsmen have brought her water but no other aid so far, and she was furious that it took Bush several days before he came to see the damage in Mississippi. "It's how many days later? How many people are dead?" Moran said. Mississippi's death toll from Hurricane Katrina stood at 144 on Saturday, according to confirmed reports from coroners and the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency. Barbour had said Friday the total was 147, but he didn't provide a county-by-county breakdown. In a strongly worded editorial, The Sun Herald of Biloxi-Gulfport pleaded for help and questioned why a massive National Guard presence wasn't already visible. "We understand that New Orleans also was devastated by Hurricane Katrina, but surely this nation has the resources to rescue both that metropolitan (area) and ours," the newspaper editorialized, saying survival basics like ice, gasoline and medicine have been too slow to arrive. "We are not calling on the nation and the state to make life more comfortable in South Mississippi, we are calling on the nation and the state to make life here possible," the paper wrote. |
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Nothing to do with this. The city is flooded because of a hurricane. The people are having so much trouble because the "leaders" of the people IE mayor and governor are complete morons incapable of taking any leadership position during this tough time. |
Def, and probably most other states besides Cali would have the same issue.
Everything is fine until things heat up. Thats what we get voting for popularity and image instead of character. :disgust |
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Anyone on her staff said hey you need to do this? What does that mean? Telling the feds what is needed and what to do doesnt mean they are DOING A GOD DAMNED THING! I can sit here and call the feds and tell them what they need in Louisiana but that isnt exactly going to help them get it done will it? She is lying about what? I never said she LIED about anything at all, you are a fucking idiot and are not capable of having an intelligent argument about this topic. Anyone else care to finish what this person started? |
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You should also note how hilarious it is to start a thread questioning the reasons behind the lack of response in New Orleans, then posting an article that shows the people of MS are pissed at the lack of response there also. Absolutely hilarious. |
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I can see the asswipes right now... thinking about they will line there pockets when the rebuilding starts.... the poorest state in the USA and the most corrupt. And they will stay poor until the people vote'm out of office. Which ain't going 2 happen, like I said been going on before Long's time. |
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Ahh but the difference is my people are not suffering anywhere near as those in the Superdome and the Convention Center in New Orleans.. no where close. New Orleans has much bigger problems that need to be addressed immediately such as huge fires, the downtown area of a LARGE city is flooded. MS problems are pale compared to that. The difference is no one is blaming the MS governor, they are commending him for his response to far. This isnt a personal attack on you but you are acting like it is. Face the facts that your governor is a very weak leader that has done nothing so far except ASK and BEG for help? A good leader helps him/herself and doesnt wait around for a handout. |
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He didnt shoot at rescue helicopters and doctors trying to evacuate patients from hospitals? |
Bottom line: Governor of the great state of Louisiana is a disgrace as a leader and should resign within 48 hours as a favor to her constituents.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nine stockpiles of fire-and-rescue equipment strategically placed around the country to be used in the event of a catastrophe still have not been pressed into service in New Orleans, five days after Hurricane Katrina, CNN has learned. Responding to a CNN inquiry, Department of Homeland Security spokesman Marc Short said Friday the gear has not been moved because none of the governors in the hurricane-ravaged area has requested it. A federal official said the department's Office for Domestic Preparedness reminded the Louisiana and Mississippi governors' offices about the stockpiles on Wednesday and Thursday, but neither governor had requested it. (See the mayor blister feds for requiring formal queries for help -- 0:34) The gear -- including generators, radios, breathing apparatus, cots and other items -- is stockpiled by DHS in nine locations. The three closest to New Orleans are College Station, Texas; Columbia, S.C.; and Clearwater, Fla. The gear is intended to replenish or sustain up to 150 first responders. Contractors who maintain the gear are required to transport it to a disaster site no later than 12 hours after the initial request is made by local authorities and approved by DHS. Short said that while the stashes contain some items like generators, much of the gear would not be useful in the circumstances faced by the Gulf Coast region. But Steve Beaumont, a retired contract manager for Homeland Security's Prepositioned Equipment Program, said the gear would be helpful for fire departments wiped out by the hurricane. Each pod has 200 radios, including sophisticated equipment to make radios inter-operable, tying different communications systems together. (Watch the video of first responders in 'hell' -- 3:25) "The concept was basically, if you had a major incident, this equipment could be brought into the city and reconstitute the local first responders. So they get fresh bunking gear, breathing apparatus," Beaumont said. Each stockpile consists of a tractor-trailer filled with $2.2 million in gear, he said. Contractors are on call 24 hours a day to move the gear. "There has been no movement of this equipment to this emergency. As of now there's been no movement at all," Beaumont said. (See the video of the mayor demanding feds to 'get off their asses' -- 12:09) "I think it's sad because you've got almost ... $20 million worth of gear that's ready to be distributed. You've firefighters (in New Orleans) fighting fires in shorts. That tells me they're running out of stuff." The project is run by DHS' Office for Domestic Preparedness. Hope no one you know has anything burn. |
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If the govenor is confused and unable to request help in the proper sequence doesn't the federal govt have an obligation to assist her in filling out the form?? Feds "we can not enter until you give us the password." Gov "I do not remeber it" Feds "wow, are you fucked. People are giong to die and we are going to blame you" Sorry, your arguement is insane. |
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I am absolutely amazed at some of you people. Your true ignorance shines through and it is very sad that you breathe the same air I breathe. Most of it is nothing but armchair politics from people who have never even been to the 'nolia.
"They were TOLD to get out of the city weren't they? It's their fault they got stranded. They didn't listen." "They were TOLD to take 5 days rations with them. It's their fault they don't have any food or water. They didn't listen." "How could they not have gas to get out of the city. Don't these people have gas cans in their garages for their lawn mowers. They could have gotten a gallon or so out of that couldn't they?" "Oh come on... Everyone owns a car." "How can a person not have $50 bucks in the bank for a motel room? Well even if they didn't they could have used their debt card." "What do you mean they didn't want to leave their homes? You mean someone would actually want what those people have?" |
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Mississippi is not a national joke because of whats going on. Louisiana is. The citizens are acting like fools and so are the local elected officials. I never "talked shit" I stated facts and it seems you are taking it personally. |
just read your last post. 9 tractor trailers of fire fighting equipement is not the type of response that most americans would expect in this type of situation. I seriously am very surprised that we do so much more for other countries and our own people are ignored. Republicans must really love forms and protocol.
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I am kind of amazed by your ignorance, since nothing of that sort has been stated in this thread at all. Cya |
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I wasnt arguing, I've been stating facts. Read the fucking article. She hasnt done shit to get help with the massive fires that are burning, if you cant see that with proof posted, then there is absolutely no point in mentioning anything else, because no amount of evidence would change your mind. |
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its amazing the spin machine starts blaming the locals and people bite
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A Navy Seal team could have rushed in after 24 hours of no gevenor response and secured her. No need to force her at gun point or any of those things. But considering the chaos maybe it is hard for the govenor to find the form or phone number needed. The president could have gone on TV and asked her to do the right thing. She is doing nothing then the other side could do something. This is not a pissing match but an attempt to help people. |
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I remember once my daughter fell and hit her head, before they would even look at her, they tried drilling me about HOW it happened, I looked at them straight in their faces and told them to fucking take care of her and THEN they were free to drill me all they wanted... same thing here....... GO FIX THOSE PEOPLE AND POINT FINGERS LATER!!!!! After those people have shelter and food and what they need to survive, then spend the rest of their lives blaming, I don't care, but take care of those people FIRST! I am not mad at you and I am not trying to make it sound that way, but I am a little sick of this blame game that is going on here, there are people dying and all anyone can do is stand around pointing fucking fingers, that's just a crock. |
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sometimes you cant fix things without finding the cause of the problem. the problem here was not a hurricane. sure the hurricane caused flooding and killed people. the problem is the response of the residents in that area. get the problem ie governor out of the way by her stepping down, and a big part of the problem will be gone and things can get going. |
detoxed, some good came out of this. I finally got off my ass and made a donation. I also called to see what I can do to help when people show up in my state tomorrow.
I realized that it is us that have to do something. We cannot all stay on vacation and wait to be asked. :thumbsup |
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