I teach everything I know about seo and how I go about acheiveing rankings for what WORKS TODAY...

I understand the SE's are always changing their methods... and the SEO's change along with them.. I always have found a way to get top spots and I always will.

If and when another major algorythm shift comes along I will adapt then show my clients how to do the same.

Also some SE's are smarter than others ;)

BTW who are you?

I would love to see what you have to say, but dont have cash right now. I have it all tied up. Maybe next time.

np - hit me up when you liquid.

you're :winkwink:

This is good business ethic to keep your clients up to date as long as your intention is genuine and you truely do plan to update ALL of your clients as shifts take place and you find new unique and innovative approaches

( basically blackhat techniques for the lesser informed, these are the quick bang for you buck approach )

And lets be realistic here, if you are an expert as you claim to be, you realise your external structure for pages like www.joggs.com will not hold up for too much longer, not to mention that your sell method for users once they have found your page is not optimized for maximum profit.

All I'm saying is that your approach is nothing new or special, and I highly doubt your going to be keeping these clients up to date as link popularity and linking structures take a back seat to the next generation of SEO, your complete method is free available info with little to none innovation or uniqueness in the SEO world... in fact it took me less than 5 minutes to analyze all your backlinks, anchor text, density percentages, all your anchor text, theme of all these backlinks, how you quickly build your backlinks etc...

*edit: It is not my intention to sabotage your business, I am just offering constructive criticism that when answered will probably result in alot of skeptical people becoming more interested in your service

When the poster has to attempt to prove himself so much, you know it's BS to begin with.

I am trying to pick apart this guys intentions, with honest and full answers his credibility will become much better..

This deserves a new thread almost, and this is not a personal attack JoJoJo... Im trying to help your clients/future clients and at the same time it will grow your client base if you can take this as constructive criticism..

I dont want to see misinformed or mislead people be disappointed in the end..

First of all yes it is my intention to keep my clients informed of the latest techniques that are working.

Next - I teach whitehat and blackhat people can work on whatever they want once they have the info.

Next - as far as joggs.com goes - they are a client of mine so they are the ones deciding how to sell the surfer once they reach their page. Right now things are working very nicely. If and when this shift happens I will adapt to it.

Next - I never said my techniques were new or special and I know all the information I teach is readily available out there if you spend the time to go read it all, extrapolate the good parts, then do all the trial and error. However most of the people I have taught have already gone this route and still dont have anything to show for it. The other people who didnt have a clue would rather pay someone $1k and get a huge running start + a game plan + support.

Next - If you are not trying to sabotage my business and be negative then why would you say "I highly doubt your going to be keeping these clients up to date" ??

I also want to add that this sky is falling and old techniques will no longer work is purely speculation right now and it also doesnt mean that all the SE's will be adapting this method... ;) current climate is very similar to this - some SE's claim to do what otehr smarter SE's do but the reailty is they dont and the algoryhtm is not too bright at all ;)

This is not true, when the poster DOES proove himself, thats when you will know its legit, for every 10 clients he has, theres 100 that will wait to see proof or until questions like mine are answered.

I just answered them.

Yeah lol wtf - all SEO threads I know people want proof so I provide it...

there are CURRENT TOP TEN results posted in this thread along with comments from clients saying "yes he has had and still does have top reuslts" also "there is no denying his seo skills" blah blah

emthree - If you arent a troll then you are just someone who is ignorant and doesnt take the time to read the entire post before adding your negative useless 2 cent commments.

I do SEO for a living, on my own stuff. I make a very good living on it, and it continues to grow every month with residual income.

I guess I'm confused. If you are so good at SEO, why waste your time teaching others? Personally, I could make much more money with my time building my own stuff than charging someone some change for lessons. It also seems like you put a lot of work into your clients.

When people ask me to do work for them, I say no 99% of the time. Why? Because it kills the time I have to build and maintain my own sites. I guess I don't see the value in making a few grand teaching, when you can make much more on your own. Not to mention that most SEO'd sites make great residuals. I have a few bringing in close to 10k a month that I haven't touched in 6 months.

Sorry to see what hapened to Joggs at yahoo. i would be willing to pay some cash for a work around on that.

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Edit: I see the work around. cool.

I am not, just offering a perspective from a more informed person, and with answers to my questions everyone can better understand what it is your offering.

I am not trying to be negative in the least, to defend your business with good answers to real questions will benefit you, and so far you are doing a good job.

My criticism is based around the fact that a knowledgable SEM would not continue to give out his research / experience and what is resulting in his rankings, as more than likely it would result in a pay cut down the line when you really have a method that is longterm and profitable

As for how to learn, I did it by reading and trying things out. Every SEO has a different philosophy and different things work. Sit in a room with one SEO, then move to another with another, and you'll hear many different things. I think people are best off reading the boards (Webmasterworld, SearchEngineWatch, etc), building small sites going after non-competitive terms, watch the SERPs, and build your way up. I learned more from my own sites than I ever did from a colleague or book.

I guess I'm saying that no one person knows everything about SEO. You are better off making connections through boards and shows, and feeding off their knowledge. Some of the best tricks I learned of late was sitting in a titty bar in New Orleans at the last webmasterworld show.

I know many like this :thumbsup

This is my question too, and im formulating my questions to you based around these facts.

When you take on clients in a manner like this and state openly in this thread that it takes 60-90 days, it shows your methods aren't going to stick and result in longterm income, otherwise a smart person would be developing your own and letting the incomes build up over time. It would get to a point where your time that you would spend updating all your clients for new changes and shifts, would be MUCH more valuable if spent on your own SE network

You recently lost alot of listings @ slapass.net, have you identified the factor yet ?

does anyone ever read the entire thread before replying?

I already stated im a lazy person and sold most of my sites a while ago - since then I have been doing mainly consulting which takes up my time and makes me a modest income.

I also said get in on this deal before I get off my ass and get some of my own sites going again and stop offereing this because I won't need to.

Some of the rankings I have acheive for clients have lasted for years. I always keep a long term perspective in mind. If and when what I do doesnt work anymore I will change it so it does.

As far how you learn and different seo's do differetn things blah blah blah - what I do is I teach WHAT WORKS FOR ME... and it works well as you can see from the proven results.

some of the sites can be banned easily..

yes... but most want the quick bucks :(

can u give me a google priority code for $900?

Edit: I will never learn the 50 +

^^^

OWNED :1orglaugh

shut up or I'll spam your google priority ID :321GFY


I HHAAATTE it when I 0wn myself :1orglaugh

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hundreds more, seen some questbook and ref spam in there too

I agree strongly with you LeWeekend, all it takes is a google spam report or just wait for the inevitable, hopefully joggs.com wont be mad if there whole domain gets banned if these backlinks were formed by JoJoJO

Yep. sucked but i think I will be fine.

The links you are refering to above are scrapers and everyone gets those.

O_O No I didn't set up THOSE links... I don't mix blackhat with whitehat... that was there own doing.

Good to hear bro, I hate to see legit SEO guys lose out :disgust

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hundreds from domains:

www.savesmartdvd.com
www.kellyfind.com
etc..

do you require an advertising budget from your clients to buy textlinks, etc.. ?
so those are the type of links you set up ?

No I don't require any budget - my clients don't buy links.

These you have lsited here are mainly galleries that the owner has made or other people have submitted to joggs with his recip and kellyfind trades traffic with the guy...

can't you see this simple shit? I mean you are coming off like you know your stuff??

Just spoke with Jojojo and he is a great guy. Thumbs up and I'm sure he knows what he is doing !

cool was just wondering about this, I am not trying to come off as a jerk or as a know it all.

I'm simply trying to ask you some questions that people may be wondering about that will better off your business if you can come up with the right answers for potential / skeptical clients.

So far you have been very clear and forward and as long as your clients understand what it is exactly your selling here, I hope you do well.

I am not trying to burn any bridges here as it is not my style and I consider anyone with moderate success as an potential, mutually beneficial, business relation.

I appreciate your forward and quick replies, I understand much better now what it is your selling and how it will work to make both parties happy

bump for a good discussion:thumbsup

I was about to reply to what your reply is... that I know Joggs.com does their own work on their site as well, as well having hired you.

Matt

ty :D :thumbsup

very good questions, I think some of Pornicles questions and your replies JoJoJo cleared some questions I had up

:) hit me up on icq

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