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fedfest 05-17-2005 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BV
I found & saved my cats from a certain early death 5 years ago. They were orphaned kittens. They were all ate up with fleas and worms. They did not have a bright future. Now they are big fat happy cats. (17 & 20 lbs each)

Here is a brief skip through their life:

Little Cats
http://www.bikinivoyeur.com/littlecats.jpg
Cheers,
BV

Looks like that first one has Turkish Van in it.. Would it by any chance be crazy about water ?

Breed Turkish Van's years back, and if you're looking for a cat that's extremely intelligent and with loads of personality then that's deffenetly a good choise of cats.. Just remember to cover your fish tanks, close the toilet seat, and seal anything else with water if you don't want it swimming in it *lol*

Ycaza 05-17-2005 10:24 AM

Kisses
 
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Originally Posted by Tala
Oh my. I'm quite well-known as a Domme here too, but....*slow, wicked grin*


Kisses sent to Tala

ArkansasDave 05-17-2005 10:33 AM

I have a Bengal cat and she is awesome!!! But you have a little patience with them becuase they tend to be a bit wild as comapared to other cats, especially when their young. :winkwink:

Tera 05-17-2005 10:49 AM

I don't want to read this whole thread, I read some of it so if I repeat somebody sorry about that. Cats do best when trained with squirt bottles when kittens. Make sure they don't see you directly spray them, if they scratch on a couch or get on the table do this, while your not at home, leave the squirt bottle on the table or in a problem area, they will leave it alone. I trained my cats like this and for the most part they are good, no table jumping, no couch scratching and so on. Usually saying no when kittens works too but sometimes they don't listen.

Get a kitten or a cat from a shelter, thats the best way to go, I prefer male cats, they are more cuddly and have less of an attitude, but you must get them neutered. Litter box training is simple, they usually go right to it.

Good luck! I am glad that most people haven't experienced problems with newborns, I am always afriad when I have kids I will have to get rid of the cats :)

Tala 05-17-2005 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cazually
Kisses sent to Tala

Ohmy. :)

*kisses returned along with a cheap feel*

BV 05-17-2005 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest
Looks like that first one has Turkish Van in it.. Would it by any chance be crazy about water ?

Breed Turkish Van's years back, and if you're looking for a cat that's extremely intelligent and with loads of personality then that's deffenetly a good choise of cats.. Just remember to cover your fish tanks, close the toilet seat, and seal anything else with water if you don't want it swimming in it *lol*


Very interesting and it's so ironic that you say that. Ricky (more orange) & Lucy (more white) both are crazy about water. They are always playing in their water bowl and with their paws and flicking them all over the place. They are brother and sister (i assume as i found them together) but the male (Ricky) has different features. Fur even feels different. Lucy has much softer and thicker fur. Like thick rabit fur. They both are crazy about water though that's for sure.

Nad 05-17-2005 01:37 PM

don't let the baby around the kitty litter or anywhere near that stuff! If you get a cat, I recommend declawing them (just the front ones) this will save you from worrying when they play with your kids and also your furniture.. Make sure you keep them in the house.

Some people say that is evil and wrong, but why do they need claws if they are indoor cats?

But beware --- Dog owners are masters..... Cat owners are servants.. trust me. I know!

HpicAnn 05-17-2005 01:45 PM

i have one cat mine is operate cause vets said the will not pee everywhere when the are ussually they are very independent you dont have to take them to walk they do their needs on the cat litter i really like cats...

Babagirls 05-17-2005 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nad
don't let the baby around the kitty litter or anywhere near that stuff! If you get a cat, I recommend declawing them (just the front ones) this will save you from worrying when they play with your kids and also your furniture.. Make sure you keep them in the house.

Some people say that is evil and wrong, but why do they need claws if they are indoor cats?

But beware --- Dog owners are masters..... Cat owners are servants.. trust me. I know!

well i've been doing searches on cats, and i found one that will fit my lifestyle, and thanks to Fedfest's recomendation, I decided on getting a Maine Coon cat...heres what i read from a website about them:

Maine Coons are relaxed and easy-going, remain playful throughout their lives, get along well with kids and dogs & other cats, will play "fetch" with their owners, they do not constantly pester you for attention, but prefer to "hang out" with their owners, will follow you from room to room and wait outside a closed door for you to emerge, will stay close by, probably occupying the chair next to yours instead.

:thumbsup

fedfest 05-17-2005 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BV
Very interesting and it's so ironic that you say that. Ricky (more orange) & Lucy (more white) both are crazy about water. They are always playing in their water bowl and with their paws and flicking them all over the place. They are brother and sister (i assume as i found them together) but the male (Ricky) has different features. Fur even feels different. Lucy has much softer and thicker fur. Like thick rabit fur. They both are crazy about water though that's for sure.

Hehe.. I bet they are huge personalities aswell with a good twist of crazy behavior (in the good sence).. Try giving them a water bowl with a guppy or a small gold fish to play with and you'll have them entertained for hours.. I used to give mine a bowl outsite on summer days and everytime the fish got outside the bowl the cat would pick it up from the ground and put it back in the bowl.. Same cat would pet a mouse and think it was ohh so sweet *lol*

Only "problem" with them was that they didn't like "Normal" cats, (and they like to tease dogs) and will never give up in a fight.. our male would kick the shit out of any stray cats comming onto our ground, beat up 4 males at once at a time so bad that we had to have 2 of them put to sleep.. took like 5 secs and he didn't get a single scratch himself..

axelcat 05-17-2005 03:09 PM

50...........I cant believe I beat woj to it

Tala 05-17-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by axelcat
50...........I cant believe I beat woj to it

Me either.
:1orglaugh

sweetME 05-17-2005 03:23 PM

Cats have lots of personality and they're moody. They like their owners, but they can never be loyal to them. That's why I'm a dog person.

Tala 05-17-2005 03:26 PM

Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.

fedfest 05-17-2005 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
well i've been doing searches on cats, and i found one that will fit my lifestyle, and thanks to Fedfest's recomendation, I decided on getting a Maine Coon cat...heres what i read from a website about them:

Maine Coons are relaxed and easy-going, remain playful throughout their lives, get along well with kids and dogs & other cats, will play "fetch" with their owners, they do not constantly pester you for attention, but prefer to "hang out" with their owners, will follow you from room to room and wait outside a closed door for you to emerge, will stay close by, probably occupying the chair next to yours instead.

:thumbsup

That description is actually very acurate, In behavior they really are often more like a dog that a cat (With a twist of Garfield though) If you don't ansver they don't talk, but if you do ansver you can keep up a conversation with them for hours.. And you'll be surprised at how much they seem to understand what you're saying *lol*
It's right on with the "hang out" remark aswell, and unlike some breeds they are pretty much allways in the mood for cuddeling when you are, and not only when they are..
Playing Fetch is something my pink Coon actually insists upon, he will find a hairband or some toy the kids left and then come to me carrying it in his mouth asking me to throw it, then come back with it for me to throw it once more, then come back with it.. Etc..Etc..Etc..

Do look carefully in the pedigrees though when you get one, some lines have been breed with siamese and some with persians, and allthough these are great cats too, it gives those lines a different look and different behavior..
Some breeders you might wan't to look up (or look for pedigrees with those names in them) are :
MtKittery, Hillside, Willowplace, Maineline, Kiskata.. Those are all american breeders that i know have great lines.. I especially like the Mtkittery cats though i'm not sure she's breeding anymore.
If you find one and wan't me to have a look at the pedigree for you feel free to contact me and i'll be glad to..

Ohh, and then I'd deffenetly take a male, just be sure to nuter him if you don't plan to breed on him (same if you take a female, unnutered females actually mark their surroundings just as much as males)

fedfest 05-17-2005 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetME
Cats have lots of personality and they're moody. They like their owners, but they can never be loyal to them. That's why I'm a dog person.

That's kind of like saying that dogs bite and allways bark...

Really depends a lot on the breed, and the owner :)

Guess I'm a cats and dog person, was vissiting a Mastiff breeder yesterday and got on their waitinglist for a puppy in their next litter :)

Babagirls 05-17-2005 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest
That description is actually very acurate, In behavior they really are often more like a dog that a cat (With a twist of Garfield though) If you don't ansver they don't talk, but if you do ansver you can keep up a conversation with them for hours.. And you'll be surprised at how much they seem to understand what you're saying *lol*
It's right on with the "hang out" remark aswell, and unlike some breeds they are pretty much allways in the mood for cuddeling when you are, and not only when they are..
Playing Fetch is something my pink Coon actually insists upon, he will find a hairband or some toy the kids left and then come to me carrying it in his mouth asking me to throw it, then come back with it for me to throw it once more, then come back with it.. Etc..Etc..Etc..

Do look carefully in the pedigrees though when you get one, some lines have been breed with siamese and some with persians, and allthough these are great cats too, it gives those lines a different look and different behavior..
Some breeders you might wan't to look up (or look for pedigrees with those names in them) are :
MtKittery, Hillside, Willowplace, Maineline, Kiskata.. Those are all american breeders that i know have great lines.. I especially like the Mtkittery cats though i'm not sure she's breeding anymore.
If you find one and wan't me to have a look at the pedigree for you feel free to contact me and i'll be glad to..

Ohh, and then I'd deffenetly take a male, just be sure to nuter him if you don't plan to breed on him (same if you take a female, unnutered females actually mark their surroundings just as much as males)


well, i found one at a rescue shelter, poor thing was so matted up that they had to shave his body :sadcrying

here, take a look at the little fella for yourself :)
http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?act...=0&tmpl=&stat=

tell me what ya think!

FrankWhite 05-17-2005 03:51 PM

got mine from canada


http://www.virex.com/bengal/IMG_1102.JPG

Babagirls 05-17-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed

WOW!!!!!

goregous!!! i love how much she resembles a tiger!! :thumbsup

fedfest 05-17-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed
got mine from canada

Love the collor glow in the fur, that's really beautifull..
Looks like quite the Killer too :thumbsup

FrankWhite 05-17-2005 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
WOW!!!!!

goregous!!! i love how much she resembles a tiger!! :thumbsup


its a he, his name is ShereKhan ;)

FrankWhite 05-17-2005 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest
Love the collor glow in the fur, that's really beautifull..
Looks like quite the Killer too :thumbsup


he is :), wild bengal :)

if you want i can post more pics !

Babagirls 05-17-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed
he is :), wild bengal :)

if you want i can post more pics !

sorry, i stand corrected...*he* is goregous :) lol

PLEASE SHOW MORE PICS!! :thumbsup

fedfest 05-17-2005 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
well, i found one at a rescue shelter, poor thing was so matted up that they had to shave his body :sadcrying

here, take a look at the little fella for yourself :)
http://www.petfinder.org/pet.cgi?act...=0&tmpl=&stat=

tell me what ya think!

To be honest, I don't like him that much.. first of all because he has white, witch is not a natural collor (comes from breeding in persians) and the fact that they had to shave him just shows this more, a Maine Coon fur normaly would need no or very little grooming, but once mixed with Persians they get high maintenance and in bad cases you can expect to need to shave him like that often..
He's propably a sweet cat and all, but to me he's more Persian Coon than maine coon.. Sorry to say.

Platinumpimp 05-17-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed

Awesome kitty dude! :thumbsup

Looks are pretty important but a friendly caracter even more. If he has the best of 2 worlds, that would be perfect!

Babagirls 05-17-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fedfest
To be honest, I don't like him that much.. first of all because he has white, witch is not a natural collor (comes from breeding in persians) and the fact that they had to shave him just shows this more, a Maine Coon fur normaly would need no or very little grooming, but once mixed with Persians they get high maintenance and in bad cases you can expect to need to shave him like that often..
He's propably a sweet cat and all, but to me he's more Persian Coon than maine coon.. Sorry to say.

so if hes more of a persian coon, his characterictics are gonna be different, right?

edit: i just found this page
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/maine.html

all of them have white?? :helpme

fedfest 05-17-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed
he is :), wild bengal :)

if you want i can post more pics !

Deffenetly post more pics :thumbsup

A friend of mine is breeding Ocelots (Are they called that in english ?) this is just like a mini occelot, really beautifull :)

FrankWhite 05-17-2005 04:25 PM

here you go

http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1244.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1249.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1256.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1264.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1265.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1268.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1269.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1272.JPG
http://www.virex.com/bengal/low/IMG_1273.JPG

Platinumpimp 05-17-2005 04:36 PM

Awesome pics doomed, I like.

I have a british shorthair myself.

Babagirls 05-17-2005 04:56 PM

wow, those pics are fuckin awesome!!!!! :thumbsup

nice cat!! :)

fedfest 05-17-2005 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls
so if hes more of a persian coon, his characterictics are gonna be different, right?

edit: i just found this page
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/maine.html

all of them have white?? :helpme

Yes exactly, That cat could propably have a pedigree, or at least you could find a pedigree cat looking much like him, and they would offcouse be Maine Coon cats.. Only you couldn't expect their behavior to be like the description you posted earlier about the Main Coon but would only get a cat that pretty much looked like a Maine Coon..

Hehe, allmost knew i'd get myself into truble with the remark about the white, this is something that takes quite a long explenation but the short version is that when you see a Maine Coon with white there is allmost certainly another cat involved, since the gene for white is not natural to the breed..
However this is not allways a bad thing, croosbreeding with another race is actually often good for the breed as it can strongen it in many ways if done right.. But can allso give unwanted carataristics if done wrong..
Changing the furs resistance against water and cold, and it's ability to straighten out without a comb is an example where it has gone wrong..

Lets say you have 10 generations of Main Coon, then breed 1 time with a white persian and then breed 10 more generations of maine coon on top of that.. that will water out the persian part to pretty much zero, since the behavior and other caractaristics are too dominant on the Maine Coon part for that to have any role..
except for one thing, the white collor since the gene for white is dominant
So you do the same with another line.. 10 generations, 1 white persian, 10 generations.. and then you have 2 cat's with genes for white.. they will allways make x% of kittens with white.. but no persians.. And that's the right way to do it..

Then somebody takes a shortcut, breeds a Maine Coon to a white Persian, and then breeds the offspring of that to another white persian(or even the same actually), or breede cats from that same litter to each other.. and that's where it goes wrong as the Persian part is now too strong and allmost imposible to "water out" especially since some of those lines have then later been breed to simular lines..

Hope that made a bit of sence even with my shitty english *lol* but what you basicly have to look out for is Maine Coons with small chins/jaws (Lover jaw should be massive instead of weak), ears should be big and pointing up, not be sitting on each side of the head (Though they still can do on old males), fur should be slightly oily(not greasy) and be seperated not filtered, and paws should be huge, not slim or tiny..A 3 month kitten for example shall be pretty much all Ears, legs and paws (Yes they grow like a dog too)

Damn that post just got way too long :1orglaugh

Scott McD 05-17-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomed

Awesome !! :thumbsup

My cat isn't quite as tough looking, although she tries to be :winkwink:

http://www.paulcorrigan.com/scott/lucy2.jpg

FelixFlow 05-17-2005 06:16 PM

having cats in the house is disgusting...they shed their hair EVERYWHERE!! i hate visiting people's houses that own cats, cause then my clothes have all that nasty shit all over it!!

fedfest 05-17-2005 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
Awesome !! :thumbsup

My cat isn't quite as tough looking, although she tries to be :winkwink:

http://www.paulcorrigan.com/scott/lucy2.jpg

Haha.. That's just too damn cute :thumbsup


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Originally Posted by Doomed

That collor and pattern is just awesome :thumbsup :thumbsup
Heck, that cat is allmost as good looking as my own :1orglaugh

reynold 05-17-2005 06:53 PM

Are there any specified sites here who purchase, trade or market cats?

Platinumpimp 05-17-2005 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetME
Cats have lots of personality and they're moody. They like their owners, but they can never be loyal to them. That's why I'm a dog person.

Well obeying is something different as being loyal. A cat is loyal to his boss too, yet he/she does not obey him/her :winkwink:

fedfest 05-17-2005 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reynold
Are there any specified sites here who purchase, trade or market cats?

I'd say there are propably allmost as many cat sites on the web as there are porn sites

Google shows 205,000,000 for cat and 18,400,000 for porn..
(No wonder Persiankitty.com got so big huh):1orglaugh

http://www.tica.org/ & http://www.cfainc.org/ would be a good place to start, if your american anyways

Babagirls 05-18-2005 03:37 AM

hey DOOMED, what kind of cat is that??

trying to look up more info on them (history of them & characteristics)

363R 05-18-2005 06:02 AM

Here's my Maine Coon (female). She was shaved a month or so ago. Great personality, but very high maintinence. She dominates the litter box. She just stands in it sometimes. It's rather gross, her nickname is Shitty Kitty for this reason.

She loves to cuddle and does not leave my side at all. Also get's very jealous when my gf comes near me. She is very curious and destructive, it's like having a child in the house. I can't have anything nice b/c she ruins everything from couches,my big screen tv, and ripped up my berber carpet. This little fucker costs me a lot of money, but in the longrun I guess she's worth it.

I picked her up at the animal shelter. I was looking for a really wild and rambunctious cat and I sure got one. Apparently she was dropped off by her owner at the Humane Society b/c of slight imperfections. I guess the lady would breed them for show.

http://img260.echo.cx/img260/2591/picture0483nx.jpg

CDSmith 05-18-2005 06:17 AM

http://www.thewinnipegpages.com/foru...1112745775.jpg


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