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Seriously, don't you see how fucking insane that is? :glugglug

No he doesnt, its sad.

I like that line of thought. Call me a fanatic, but i have a right and I'll vote or fight or protest to keep it.

Are you going ot be the one to fuck with him? And just say you did decide to - are you going to be the wone who comes out on top?

A beautiful post -- especially the part about the second Amendment. I always thought it was retarded that people used this as the reason for legalizing guns. And I'm a USA loving, country loving, good old American boy. There are no easy solutions, but I agree with the other poster who said it's too late to ban guns.

I still think the only GOOD GUN CONTROL (and drug control and a myriad of other society ills) is better education and better spending to create an environment that makes people mentally, morally and emotionally stronger instead of making them afraid. I also lived in Boulder, CO and vehemently hate the the smell of Patchouli. Go figure.

People generally don't fuck with me either, and I sleep all warm and fuzzy at night without being so fucking scared I need an "arsenal of weapons" by the side of my bed :1orglaugh

Besides, if I were a criminal and I wanted to fuck with him, I'd still do it. I'd just make sure to shoot him in the face first (I would be able to easily get a gun, if they weren't banned), before he even had the chance to know I was planning on fucking with him - just to make sure he wouldn't pull out some weapon while I was stealing his shit.

For some interesting stats, look up the homicide numbers for the Netherlands vs the US. Your guns sure don't provide a lot of safety :1orglaugh

Well, to be honest, I like my guns and I believe in my right to keep them. I'm not going to shoot anybody in the face with my .40, anyway.

However...

With nuts like you running around there, it's a good thing guns are banned in your land :winkwink:

Exactly.

So what happens when this happens to your woman when you are not around?



mine packs a Beretta in her glove box and she has her own 12 guage Mossberg pump for the house (she had both of these before she met me) lol

so if she breaks down somewhere and some thugs come around they will have quite a surprize

fuck em all.

You just proved my point, thank you.

It's not the 85% of responsible gun owners that's the problem, it's that every once in awhile a irresponsible, stupid, ignorant, criminal ass gets his/her hands on one.

And for that reason alone they should be banned. Every day some crazy shit happens in the US because everyone and their sister is packing. In Canada we don't have that problem because almost NO ONE is packing, except the cops. (Then again, that's a scary thought initself)

with all due respect, you are a moron.

It's that paranoid, delusional belief you have that has led to Bush being back in the White House. You are being brainwashed by the NRA and gun manufacturers to believe you need a gun, but in 90% of America being robbed at gunpoint or having your home broken into is unlikely, at best.

It's not the people that register guns, it's how those same guns get into the hands of criminals that is the problem.

Ask yourself: How do you think criminals get guns? They get them one way or another from legit people who registered.

Wake up, get your head out of the sand and come back to earth. A gun ban would NOT lead to anarchy. It's all in your imagination fueled by big business gun manufacturers and the pathetic politicians they bankroll.

Wait a minute, did we just enter the Twilight Zone or something? Are you saying, "oh, I wish guns were never invented?"

BTW, people have been warring and killing, and conquering lands long before guns.

I have to ask, do you think that Americans are scared and paranoid all day that some crackass junky is trying to put a bullet through my ass somewhere? you do watch too much tv if you think a measureable percentage of us feel that way.

And you think we do? Fuck, if I was living in Europe, and thought all Americans were walking around carrying guns, I sure the hell would not come here.

Why would you risk certain death?

why? you think those kids got the guns legally?

A couple pages ago you were saying guns had no purpose but to hurt and kill other people.

Make up your mind.

WTF, do you people think is going on down here? You think we are all packing, don't you?

Well we are. Be on your best behavior.

Let me guess, Michael Moore is a god, and you have seem Bowling for Columbine 136 times.

You sir, are the moron.

I hate Michael Moore.

It's funny you mention that, becuase most Europeans have no idea what its really like in this country. Sure, the ones who have spent time here know, but most foreigners think that America is like in the movies, everyone carrying guns and running around shooting everyone and stuff. I suppose that could be somewhat of an excuse for their ignorance on this topic.

Guns are all good till you or some family member be the outcome of something that possible could have been prevented through gun control. In such case you'll start examining the other side.


I can accept the gun possession as an issue of human rights and liberties, but at the same time having in mind that every punkass idiot can harm me with no reason within a second scares me and puts me in further thoughts. My paranoia regarding the protection of my family and myself can turn me to the punkass idiot i'm afraid with the difference the victim this time would be someone else.

Baddog, please stop it. I respect everybody's opinion here and im happy to discuss it but youre making a total fool of yourself. Leave this thread dude, your replies are a total waste of cyberspace.

Youre a fucking idiot, pro gun or not has nothing to do with it. I knew this before but im telling you again, you act like a retard trying to say something in a discussion but too stupid to understand whats going on. I know its not your fault, people get born that way but thats why im telling you know, stfu , get an iq test and go hang with people with your brain capacity. Try another thread. Plenty of other idiots around here.

Hey Smutpeddler, what it all boils down to is that per 1000 or per million people you guys have way more gun deaths than we do, WAY more. Thats my whole point, thats why guns are bad.

I dont care how, murder, accident, whatever, more people get killed by guns in the US than a non gun country.

Thats the whole point isnt it?

Now i cant wait to see how youre gonna defend yourself from this :)

And baddog, fuck off, although its not an Einstein subject, its way above your brain level so please dont reply to my posts anymore.

very true, guns were made to kill people.

In most cases, muggers will just want a purse of whatever. When your woman gets mugged, she'll pull out a gun, and so will the muggers - one has to assume that they are prepared for people carrying. So she has about a 50% chance of surviving? When my woman gets mugged, she'll lose her purse.

There's a reason why almost every police department in the world advices people to cooperate with robbers/muggers, and it's not the safety of the robbers :2 cents:

Im starting to think that people who live in gun countries simply dont understand we dont have to fear people carrying guns or robbers with guns.

I think if you take 1000 random robberies in the US, more people get killed than 1000 robberies in Holland for instance, why, because both parties carry guns.

So in the end guns once again are killing more people. Its less safe in a place where you and the robber have a gun than in a place where neither one has one.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...20#post5987120
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i think gun control is good cause not everybody should have one!!!


And i'm in Panama!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup


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Yup, i already meant to bring that up.

Fucking idiots pulled a gun blah blah SO I PULLED MINE AS WELL.

There is something so wrong in that part of the world and they just refuse to see it.

They're scared, and a gun in your hand gives a feeling of power and thus a (false) sense of security.
I think that rationally, many of them understand that guns cause deaths (duh), but they don't want to give up their power because they're scared of the government, their neighbours, black people, muslims, etc.

Plus it gives them the feeling of freedom, im allowed to have a gun so i have one.

Guns Don't Kill, People do:

"?What makes gun control so compelling for many is the belief that violent crime is driven by the availability of guns, and more importantly, that criminal violence in general may be reduced by limiting access to firearms,? says Gary Mauser, author of the paper and professor of business at Simon Fraser University. "
-- (source)


Perhaps, by ratio per capita, America has more fucked up people than other countries. I'm willing to believe that as I see them every day driving to and from work.


Stats, stats and more stats: Those who claim the US is much, much worse than "some other" countries have your stats skewed. Basically, if you compare only firearm homicide and suicide data alone (and against a biased selection of other countries), the US will rank high. However, take into account TOTAL homicide and suicide rates, even against those selective countries and the US rates much better.

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People are knocking themselves and others off regardless of gun availability. Don't kid yourself with this false argument in this thread.

I think the whole gun-control this, gun-control that argument is pointless. "...the risk of death in the US due to homicide, suicide and gun accidents is not significantly higher than in the rest of the world".

Ever see the movie Soylent Green? "It's people!". "It's people!". You're goddamn right it's people that's the issue.

Are you fucked in your head for believing this? Wtf?

And the sky is green right?

Gun Deaths - International Comparisons

Gun deaths per 100,000 population (for the year indicated):

Homicide Suicide Unintentional

USA 4.08 (1999) 6.08 (1999) 0.42 (1999)

Canada 0.54 (1999) 2.65 (1997) 0.15 (1997)

Switzerland 0.50 (1999) 5.78 (1998) -

Scotland 0.12 (1999) 0.27 (1999) -

England/Wales 0.12 (1999/00) 0.22 (1999) 0.01 (1999)

Japan 0.04* (1998) 0.04 (1995) <0.01 (1997)

Do you read the whole articles and my points or just continue to use the stats you wish to use to reaffirm the points YOU ARE trying to make?

You only took GUN RELATED stats. And yes, by those stats alone the US ranks high.

Take ALL homicide and suicide numbers and the US ranks much differently, and even lower than than those you listed. That's all I'm trying to say man.... it's not the guns, it's the FUCKING PEOPLE.

Every hour in America, four people are killed by firearms. (Centers for Disease Control)

A gun in your home makes it three times more likely that you or someone you care about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner (Kellerman,New England Journal of Medicine v329, n.15 1993)

Gun violence is the second-leading cause of injury-related fatalities in the US after car accidents. In Alaska, Maryland and Nevada as well as D.C., firearm death rates in 1998 exceeded those for car accidents. (CDC & Natnl. Vital Statistics Report, 1999)

One million Americans have died in firearm homicides, suicides, and unintentional shootings since 1962. (Fatal Firearm Injuries in the United States 1962-1994. Violence Surveillance Summary Series, No. 3, 1997; Deaths: Final Data for 1995- 1997, National Vital Statistics Report)

Is this topic about suicide or guns? I thought guns, sorry if im wrong.

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That's all I'm trying to say man.... it's not the guns, it's the FUCKING PEOPLE.

Wrong guns kill. Without guns, no gun deaths. Hard to understand eh?

In 1998-99, states and territories expelled 3,523 students from bringing a firearm to school.

The Self-Defense Myth:

In 1997, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 43 people lost their lives in handgun homicides. (FBI Supplementary Homicide Report data, 1997)