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Old 12-04-2004, 05:02 AM   #51
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Old 12-04-2004, 05:25 AM   #52
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Keep in mind that not all of us voted for that pathetic dipshit of a "President", so don't look to us for an answer to something we ourselves don't even understand.

Bush is a stupid asshole, who never should have been President in the first place, and the only reason why he is still there is because he is such a fucking little mindless pussy that he does whatever the money makers tell him to do, he's their little puppet boy. He couldnt' think for himself if it were to save his life.

but that's just my opinion... I fucking hate Bush with a passion, so I may be a little biased.

FOX News can kiss my ass too...
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Old 12-04-2004, 05:49 AM   #53
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The military of Iraq was defeated in three weeks and Iraq now has a new interim governmnet and constitution. I do not give a damn about the suffering we are inflicting as the solution to their suffering is simple...lay down their arms and turn in those that are killing coalition forces as well as killing their fellow Iraqi's...but I do give a damn about the suffering that is being inflicted upon our forces...UN personell...and all of the other orgs that are there to relieve the suffering of the Iraqi's.
Liberate them even if we have to kill them all, eh?

They are right in hating us. With every innocent person they behead, they avenge the deaths of a hundred of their own innocents. We look at them not as men, but as beasts, and treat them accordingly. Why then should they not accept our judgement, and show us the grave consequences it has?
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:03 AM   #54
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Liberate them even if we have to kill them all, eh?

They are right in hating us. With every innocent person they behead, they avenge the deaths of a hundred of their own innocents. We look at them not as men, but as beasts, and treat them accordingly. Why then should they not accept our judgement, and show us the grave consequences it has?
The can choose to suffer as long as they want to...or choose not to suffer...the solution is in their hands. They avenge nothing...only cause more suffering...they are a backward people in general...and better suited for centuries past not the present.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:14 AM   #55
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The can choose to suffer as long as they want to...or choose not to suffer...the solution is in their hands. They avenge nothing...only cause more suffering...they are a backward people in general...and better suited for centuries past not the present.
It's funny how, over here in the west, we speak of individuals, yet when we speak about brown people in far away countries, they're nothing more than a uniform mass, a scary, abstract blob without actual human faces. The mujahideen and the shoemaker are one and the same, it is ok to kill one for the crimes of the other, because he could have committed them just as well... in fact, if he hasn't done so yet, he will soon, because he just watched his wife and children die. Collateral damage, nothing more.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:19 AM   #56
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It's funny how, over here in the west, we speak of individuals, yet when we speak about brown people in far away countries, they're nothing more than a uniform mass, a scary, abstract blob without actual human faces. The mujahideen and the shoemaker are one and the same, it is ok to kill one for the crimes of the other, because he could have committed them just as well... in fact, if he hasn't done so yet, he will soon, because he just watched his wife and children die. Collateral damage, nothing more.
Through out the history of war/conflicts...the enemy is almost always...if not always...considered to be a uniform mass...be it German Caucasions...or Oriental Japanese.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:29 AM   #57
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Through out the history of war/conflicts...the enemy is almost always...if not always...considered to be a uniform mass...be it German Caucasions...or Oriental Japanese.
So they're right after all? They're not "the people we're trying to liberate", but "the enemy"?
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:37 AM   #58
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So they're right after all? They're not "the people we're trying to liberate", but "the enemy"?
That is pretty much the bottom line in the real world. As long as civilians continue to kill coalition forces they all have to be viewed with a weapon at the ready.
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:42 AM   #59
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So they're right after all? They're not "the people we're trying to liberate", but "the enemy"?
In addition the US is not trying to "liberate" anyone...but is acting in its perceived best interest. Having said that the Iraqi's would have a much better quality of life if they would submit to westernization...for at least as long as the western world...for whatever reasons...has an interest in that AO.
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