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AaronM 09-13-2004 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Not in California.
We're not discussing the CA state regulations. THis thread is on the assault weapons ban........You picked the topic, not me. :glugglug

AaronM 09-13-2004 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
So that m16 pic was photoshop ?
I'm not sure what you are referring to. :angel

Donny 09-13-2004 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
We're not discussing the CA state regulations. THis thread is on the assault weapons ban........You picked the topic, not me. :glugglug
I should have clarified my "Not in California" post. I should have mentioned that I was ignorant of the difference in the law outside of California on assault weapons. And by what others have posted in this thread, I am ignorant of the fact that nothing has changed in California. I still can't go down to Walmart and buy an AK. Damn. LOL.

warlock5 09-13-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM
You could always legally purchase these weapons. The ban simply stopped them from being manufactured or imported. With the ban gone, the prices of these weapons should fall.

Considering that the average criminal does not obtain them legally, this really should not have that big on an impact on the crime rates.

Nice to know I'm not the only one here who understands the law!

I don't care if someone is for or against gun control laws, at least know the facts before you start talking about them on TV and misleading everyone.

A real arguement here would be that they are cheaper and thus somewhat easier for criminals to get. Of course, if they have a previous criminal record then they won't be able to purchase them legally anyways.

newbreed 09-13-2004 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Manowar
So that m16 pic was photoshop ?
The gun in that pic did not fall under the definition of an assault weapon as noted under the ban as far as I could tell. Been a while since I've seen it, but that was either a pre-ban gun or it did not have more than 4 "points" required to fall under the assault weapon description. :2 cents:

SongRider 09-13-2004 11:38 AM

The ban on assult weapons only made upper middle class housewives and people who dont have a clue feel better and more safe. When you get down to the street level it made NO difference at all..... They were as common as before the so called "ban" went into effect.

Its the people that do the killing NOT the guns.....

Why dont we ban airplanes and see if that stops terrorism!!!

:1orglaugh

theking 09-13-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
As of today, you can legally purchase Uzis, AK-47s, etc.

Do we really need such weapons? Do you think crime rates will rise? Will we see more mass murders in public places?

Discuss.

Prior to the "ban"...so called "assault" weapons were used in far less than 1% of crimes that involve weapons. I currently do not know if the "ban" reduced the number of crimes that "assault" weapons were used in by any significant number since the number was not significant prior to the "ban".

The "ban" was against the import of the weapons and was not grand fathered thus there never was really a federal "ban" against ownership of the weapons (some states established their own "ban" and in some cases the "ban" was much stricter than the federal "ban")...in addition it did not totally ban the import...because the manufacturers made cosmetic changes on some weapons thus qualifying them for import.

Some people do not realize that the sale of full automatic weapons was banned...I think by a 1934 law (execept for those that possess a license to own full automatic weapons)...and that the "assault" weapons being discussed are not full automatic weapons. They are semi automatic weapons and they do not shoot any further...or any faster...nor are they anymore powerful then any semi automatic "hunting/target shooting" weapon that has always been legal to own. The only real difference in them over any semi automatic weapon is the number of rounds held in the clips/magazines. Other than that they are not anymore dangerous/malevolent than anyother semi automatic weapon.

As for "need"...that is subjective...in the eye of the beholder...so to speak.

Darkland 09-13-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by DimeStoreNovel
why do you clowns start a thread about assault weapons and then post pics of and talk about fully automatic weapons?
don't you know the difference?
you are fucking dangerous to yourself and society in general.

You are correct and it seems your statement was overlooked. Yes, the Assault Weapons Ban has expired, it was never meant to be a lasting ban. If anyone knew what they were talking about or knew the actual details of the criteria and provisions of the ban you would know that Fully Automatic Weapons were not a part of this ban. The provisions in the ban restricted certain models of Semi Auto weapons and accessories, this also inculded the LCAFD(Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device) Ban that was set in place with the Assault Weapons Ban. So now you are able to purchase those Weapons and HC Mags listed in the Bans. As for the National Firearms Act (NFA) it still holds that you will not be able to obtain or own Fully Automatic Weapons and probably never will be able to. Also, Just because the Ban on AW has been lifted doesn't mean everyone will be able to purchase them since this ban is at the Federal Level, State and Local laws can and probably will still not allow the purchase of these items. Those of you lucky enough to live in states that do, well I have one thing to say. Shopping Spree :thumbsup

DimeStoreNovel 09-13-2004 11:54 AM

you just wait!
all the repulicans are going to buy guns and shoot all the domocrats and that is how they will win the election.
and then ashcrap will jail all of you for midget porn.
yeah, that is what is going to happen.

:thumbsup

its them republicans they are the problem.

KRL 09-13-2004 11:56 AM

I want an M1A1.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...-xf-pic103.jpg

Ironhorse 09-13-2004 11:56 AM

50 Gunslingers

DimeStoreNovel 09-13-2004 11:57 AM

me too!

but when I left viet nam they made me give it back

(M1A1 Tank)


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