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steve_cobra · 07-07-2004, 07:37 PM

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq.

When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following ...

FDR... led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. More than 900 per month.

Truman... finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us.
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year.

John F. Kennedy... started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson... turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton... went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. Clinton was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush as liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North
Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his
own people.

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick. It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military moral is high! The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.

Giorgio_Xo · 07-07-2004, 07:47 PM

Bush is a fool. That's the difference.

He doesn't measure up as a man or human against any of the presidents you mentioned. The world and the United States is less safe because of his policy of violent arrogance.

I say this as a former Republican. He scares me so much that I felt compelled to register Libertarian.

XxShiznaughtxX · 07-07-2004, 07:49 PM

Your precedents are not compelling. So what?

Besides, it doesn't even seem like you're looking for friendly debate.

rock tugget · 07-07-2004, 07:51 PM

Couple of things:
I think the people that oppose Iraq for the most part oppose war in general. The killing of innocent people whatever the reason ain't cool.
Pearl Harbor was the first 9/11 - same bullshit.
The biased media? Have you actually watched any mainstream news? All mainstream news, especially CNN and Fox News, as well as most local news stations in the states are clearly biased towards Bush. Never have they questioned any of his actions. Never have they openly shown the dissent of the Amercian people.
The people trying to get the truth out, like Michael Moore, are considered Liberal freaks because they show a negative side to Bush.
War is always there to benefit the rich and fuck the poor no matter what reasons they give us.

Warden · 07-07-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock tugget
Couple of things:
I think the people that oppose Iraq for the most part oppose war in general. The killing of innocent people whatever the reason ain't cool.
Pearl Harbor was the first 9/11 - same bullshit.
The biased media? Have you actually watched any mainstream news? All mainstream news, especially CNN and Fox News, as well as most local news stations in the states are clearly biased towards Bush. Never have they questioned any of his actions. Never have they openly shown the dissent of the Amercian people.
The people trying to get the truth out, like Michael Moore, are considered Liberal freaks because they show a negative side to Bush.
War is always there to benefit the rich and fuck the poor no matter what reasons they give us.

You just eliminated any legitimacy of your argument by labeling Michael Moore as some sort of truth seeker. He is as big of a propagandist as Baghdad Bob.

07-07-2004, 07:37 PM	#1
steve_cobra So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 62	Any Liberals/Anti-Bush want a friendly debate? There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during the month of January..... In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq. When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following ... FDR... led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. More than 900 per month. Truman... finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year. John F. Kennedy... started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson... turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. Clinton... went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. Clinton was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. In the two years since terrorists attacked us President Bush as liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but... It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records. It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick. It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!! Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military moral is high! The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.

07-07-2004, 07:47 PM	#2
Giorgio_Xo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,263	Bush is a fool. That's the difference. He doesn't measure up as a man or human against any of the presidents you mentioned. The world and the United States is less safe because of his policy of violent arrogance. I say this as a former Republican. He scares me so much that I felt compelled to register Libertarian. __________________ Make Levees, Not War

07-07-2004, 07:49 PM	#3
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07-07-2004, 07:51 PM	#4
rock tugget Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 39	Couple of things: I think the people that oppose Iraq for the most part oppose war in general. The killing of innocent people whatever the reason ain't cool. Pearl Harbor was the first 9/11 - same bullshit. The biased media? Have you actually watched any mainstream news? All mainstream news, especially CNN and Fox News, as well as most local news stations in the states are clearly biased towards Bush. Never have they questioned any of his actions. Never have they openly shown the dissent of the Amercian people. The people trying to get the truth out, like Michael Moore, are considered Liberal freaks because they show a negative side to Bush. War is always there to benefit the rich and fuck the poor no matter what reasons they give us.