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Old 05-30-2004, 11:59 AM   #151
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That's some really great stats if you ask me.
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:00 PM   #152
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LOL I was part of this test but I guess I'm missing what your point was.

Was it to make money or prove that Sleazy's traffic couldn't make money on just any site?
uh? I'm just saying to Veterans Day that it was not female ejaculation traffic. I knew that from the start.

And about this test? Well, I wanted to try a female ejaculation paysite with his traffic and test gallery spot.

Of course it was about making money. Nothing else.

And give the results here..
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:01 PM   #153
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If you say that the hardcore female ejaculations fans would easily spot a fake site. Then those that signed up were not "fans" I guess eh? My target was not the HARDCORE fans.

95% of people don't know what female ejaculation is.

beleive me, listening to our member feedback in reagards to all those fake FE sites tells us alot. They can spot that shit a mile away. All im sayin is a surfer who knows FE can see that site is bullshit. God forbid once they see the members area when they join, what a joke. But thats not your problem I know.
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:06 PM   #154
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uh? I'm just saying to Veterans Day that it was not female ejaculation traffic. I knew that from the start.

And about this test? Well, I wanted to try a female ejaculation paysite with his traffic and test gallery spot.

Of course it was about making money. Nothing else.

And give the results here..
wasn't trying to accuse you of anything...just trying to figure out the thought process here is all.
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:11 PM   #155
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You might want to consider doing another test. This time using hardcore content. You'll probabaly get a much better CTR and get a better idea of what a typical gallery does on Sleazydream
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:13 PM   #156
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LOL I was part of this test but I guess I'm missing what your point was.

Was it to make money or prove that Sleazy's traffic couldn't make money on just any site?
I think he missed his own point :P
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:13 PM   #157
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i think its because of your type of niche selection. Most surfers want hardcore and only hardcore. Not seeing girls ejaculate. You should of tried promoting teen and/or hardcore niche
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:13 PM   #158
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beleive me, listening to our member feedback in reagards to all those fake FE sites tells us alot. They can spot that shit a mile away. All im sayin is a surfer who knows FE can see that site is bullshit. God forbid once they see the members area when they join, what a joke. But thats not your problem I know.
this is the case with all niches in my experience.

from redheads to feet and balloons, if you cant get the niche right its not going to please the folks who are really into it.

I can see the FE fans calling bullshit on fake FE stuff.
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Exactly, I joined the site seeing as thats the niche we have a paysite in and that site is all fake and any real FE surfer who knows what hes looking at will spot bullshit immediately

Veterans Day?

How easy is it to cancel from dollar machine ?

as i wonder how they make money off of one dollar sign up's ?
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:15 PM   #160
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this is the case with all niches in my experience.

from redheads to feet and balloons, if you cant get the niche right its not going to please the folks who are really into it.

I can see the FE fans calling bullshit on fake FE stuff.
that they do
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:17 PM   #161
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Veterans Day?

How easy is it to cancel from dollar machine ?

as i wonder how they make money off of one dollar sign up's ?
dude dont even get me started on that cluster fuck of a s ign up, I bet he had traffic hit the join page and get fucking lost, I got hit left and fuckin right with offers for this, that and then didnt know what fuckin button to click for fear of gettin wacked with 2 crosses. Cancel was easy as I cancelled from my email after joining, but joining would scare the saviest surfer. IMHO. FUCK and us as webmasters know what to look for Oh the members area is all plugins and upsells
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:41 PM   #162
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if anyone Veterans Day should know about holidays
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Old 05-30-2004, 12:51 PM   #163
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Not bad. Not bad at all.
not bad ?

he made like $5 bucks.
and it was on special "promotiom week" when dollarmachine was paying $45 per signup.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:17 PM   #164
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So who is going to hit The Hun next?

Maybe with one of those beasty galleries he lists.......

Now that would be interesting.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:19 PM   #165
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:23 PM   #166
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Very interesting indeed. I enjoy seeing things like this on the boards.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:24 PM   #167
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If you say that the hardcore female ejaculations fans would easily spot a fake site. Then those that signed up were not "fans" I guess eh? My target was not the HARDCORE fans.

95% of people don't know what female ejaculation is.

i highly doubt 95% don't know what it is.

i think what you wrote was a bit dry. you could have made it like a short sex story and got your point across in a much better way. a way in which the surfer gets a hard on just reading it.
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Old 05-30-2004, 01:40 PM   #168
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i highly doubt 95% don't know what it is.

i think what you wrote was a bit dry. you could have made it like a short sex story and got your point across in a much better way. a way in which the surfer gets a hard on just reading it.
There's a lot of things I could've changed or tried.. But I had faith in eroswebmaster's gallery. I did minor changes because I knew it was good.
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Interesting.

What i would like to see next is another person doing the same test. Different sponsor, different gallery designer, yet sticking to the general rules and stuff like no carrier did.
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When I click the link to the sponsor from the gallery I get re-directed to a dialer..

End up here : http://access.rapid-pass.net/?pack=n... &login=130163
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:33 PM   #171
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not bad ?

he made like $5 bucks.
and it was on special "promotiom week" when dollarmachine was paying $45 per signup.
Yes, I know his profit was just 5 bucks but I meant it wasn't bad since he was promoting female ejaculation on SleazyDream. When I posted I didn't notice it was dollarmachine's "promotional weekend", just saw the traffic stats and the profit made. It's not bad for his first gallery spot on SD, since he got his money back.

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Old 05-30-2004, 03:36 PM   #173
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I see the potential here very easily. I am not going to bash on Eros's design, how they did what they did ect. If it was so bad in the complainers eyes then they should know what to do to make it better and do it themselves. Alas though I really think most of the bashers here could not afford to do a 300.00 test in the first place.
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I see the potential here very easily. I am not going to bash on Eros's design, how they did what they did ect. If it was so bad in the complainers eyes then they should know what to do to make it better and do it themselves. Alas though I really think most of the bashers here could not afford to do a 300.00 test in the first place.
I think the whole thing went well, all said and done.. Worth continuing to buy a spot.. Like I said with using better content in the gallery, perhaps tweaking it a bit more to the traffic, etc, the potential is huge to do much bigger. All in all I would say it's a pretty good indication that Sleazy's traffic is productive.

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Old 05-30-2004, 03:51 PM   #175
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WTF ???

good gallery
good sponsor
good convertation
where is problems ?

Here : 300 $ spots !

make gallerys and buy spots -> make money for tgp owners !
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I think the whole thing went well, all said and done.. Worth continuing to buy a spot.. Like I said with using better content in the gallery, perhaps tweaking it a bit more to the traffic, etc, the potential is huge to do much bigger. All in all I would say it's a pretty good indication that Sleazy's traffic is productive.

Fuck the haters! :P
yeah have to say that at least.

Its proof enough Sleazy has a good business and Eros does good galleries.

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WTF ???

good gallery
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where is problems ?

Here : 300 $ spots !

make gallerys and buy spots -> make money for tgp owners !
but for every person who thinks this, there's someone willing to buy that same spot to make some profit even if the tgp owner is making more.
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blah blah blah, never trust the Sponsor's clicks.

116222 hits
7 sells

1:16,500 gallery hits.


That's a OK ratio.
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Total sales : 7 X $45 = 315$

Gallery cost : $300

Net profit : 15$
Normally their payout is $30 sale, so if it wasn't for promotional period, you would have had a major loss....
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and these tests don't really mean anything... let's just say instead of making $315 from the gallery, you made $2315? would you post it then? Or would you milk the easy $2k/weekend profit yourself?
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Does'nt the market place test this shit everyday?
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and these tests don't really mean anything...
We've discussed about this ad nauseam in the first thread.

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Let's just say instead of making $315 from the gallery, you made $2315? would you post it then? Or would you milk the easy $2k/weekend profit yourself?
Yes, I said I would post the official results .

Doesn't matter if it turned out to be positive of negative. If I had made $2315 you would've seen $2315 in the stats.
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I think better content would have made a difference but the real story here which seems to have been overlooked is that for a gallery, $345 is a good result, except for the fact that he paid for the listing. Put that gallery on another TGP that doesn't charge $300 and it would have all been profit except for the bandwidth.

Moral of the story. Work on getting preferred status with lots of TGPs and don't pay to get listed.
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Does'nt the market place test this shit everyday?

HAhahahaha...

No.
Actually not.
If it works and is highly profitable the ones that figured out where profit is shut up and keep making money
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I think better content would have made a difference but the real story here which seems to have been overlooked is that for a gallery, $345 is a good result, except for the fact that he paid for the listing. Put that gallery on another TGP that doesn't charge $300 and it would have all been profit except for the bandwidth.

Moral of the story. Work on getting preferred status with lots of TGPs and don't pay to get listed.
yes, I agree
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Work on getting preferred status with lots of TGPs and don't pay to get listed.
That was not NoCarrier's point.. I even bet he doesnt even submit galleries, he just wanted to see how good Sleazy's traffic was and post the results on GFY.

We really need a :rolleyes: smiley here..
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It would probably help if your sponsor didn't direct ALL non-US traffic to a dialer.

I'm outside the US. I have a working credit card, as do approximately 1 billion other people outside the US. Yet I was sent to a dialer. I'm not going to use a dialer. Most people aren't. And on the rare occasion that someone does, I bet you don't get paid for it.
if the gallery sends to a dailer I take down the gallery - but they can lead a sponser link to a dialer. it's why i do pre-paid, I get paid period.
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I always get sales several days after my listings die because of bookmarks so list the rereults in a week mate!
many people have told me this as well - plus the gallery get slisted on my two smaller sites later - hotsexseris only listed it today and discretesex listes it tomorrow - they run one and two days behond sleazydream. and he gets several days on each of those...not as much traffic as sleazydream but they're usualy godd for a couple of sales each.....
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I think you are just confused. I was just saying that my traffic didn't drop because of the holiday weekend.

I'm pretty sure that TGP traffic is also not affected by it.

So I'm asking you one more time, are TGP surfers less horny and more patriotic on memorial day?

Because you seem to think that I lost a lot of sales because my gallery was displayed during that time.
trafiic drops 20% to 30% over US holiday weekend periods - just look at sextracker and see for yourself...
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wow. im actually impressed with the results.

the gallery design is fine, but the content is wrong. Im very surprised that people would click on that solo/softcore/soso girl... and still get that many signups!

Had you used cuter/teenier HARDCORE content. I think the numbers would be at least doubled.

actually the best sales results i've sceen have been from milf hardcore content on my site - dont' know why... 2-3 times what teen does. some have done 100+ sales a gallery.....over 4-5 days.
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ok, finally read though all of this.

congrats on the sales - that's good results for someone new to TGP - understand you still have a few days left on your listing though and it hasn't even gone up yet on discretesex.com and only just went up on hotsexseries..com - they each run 4-5 days as well.

if you got 7 sales so far with the rest of the exposure i'd predict 2-4 more sales - as it's still on sleazydream too for the rest of today and all of tomorrow. sleazydream lists only 9 or less galleries a day, under 30 galleries total on the site at any one time- and even days 2,3 and 4 can have good sales - different then those sites that list 80-120 galleries a day. My site is ore about long term exposure over 3-4 days then a one time hit in a huge list of galleries.

so I'd predict you'll make about $500 from this....just from experience since you still have time left in your posting.
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:47 PM   #192
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actually the best sales results i've sceen have been from milf hardcore content on my site - dont' know why... 2-3 times what teen does. some have done 100+ sales a gallery.....over 4-5 days.
i was just thinking today after looking at some stats that MILF sites might be done for. seems to be a fairly heavily promoted niche. maybe i'm a bit wrong about it.
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:51 PM   #193
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i was just thinking today after looking at some stats that MILF sites might be done for. seems to be a fairly heavily promoted niche. maybe i'm a bit wrong about it.
you know - i thought that too. but when new sites come out with milf on a new theme with new content they still sell like crazy, least for me.........
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:53 PM   #194
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trafiic drops 20% to 30% over US holiday weekend periods - just look at sextracker and see for yourself...
Yeah I've noticed this too... Good days are early in the week, not the weekend.
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Old 05-30-2004, 07:34 PM   #195
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Old 05-30-2004, 08:47 PM   #196
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The big thing is the payout from the sponsor. He would be hosed with any other sponsor and those numbers.
Yup. Smart thinking waiting for the $45 sign up days to do the test.

Keep on tweaking & you'll figure out how to get even better results.
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Old 05-30-2004, 09:05 PM   #197
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nocarrier - are you going to post stats tomorrow and the next day and the next day as it's still live..............
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Old 05-30-2004, 09:28 PM   #198
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eroswebmaster - I think you did a good job on the gallery, it's more of a content problem.

That girl has the face of a tranny & pimples all over her ass. You'd have to be really interested in squirting to see past that...

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Old 05-30-2004, 10:09 PM   #199
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you should hire i am a lurker



in fact everyone should. he KNOWS everything!
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Old 05-30-2004, 10:17 PM   #200
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