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Old 05-14-2004, 07:30 PM   #1
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Free hosted galleries are a waste ........

If you think they convert they dont compared to custom ones.


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Old 05-14-2004, 07:31 PM   #2
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If you think they convert they dont compared to custom ones.


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Old 05-14-2004, 07:32 PM   #3
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free hosted galleries have been seen by everyone, same old shit.

buy some new content and make you own galleries and they will convert big.
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:33 PM   #4
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free hosted galleries have been seen by everyone, same old shit.

buy some new content and make you own galleries and they will convert big.
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what i have started to do usually for some affilates is get custom made ones (their choice of designer) and pay for it for specific affilates.. that way its a win win
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:34 PM   #6
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there is no debate lol, what you said is correct
FHG tend to be overexposed 10 mins after they are released
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:36 PM   #7
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what i have started to do usually for some affilates is get custom made ones (their choice of designer) and pay for it for specific affilates.. that way its a win win
please debate your argument
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you wanna see the same old shit every day or something different?

well so does the surfer, don't think you can sell him what he has seen time and again.
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free hosted galleries are eye candy...mainly for the webmaster.
It's a tool to get you to promote them.
Hell they've been paid for..the hosting is free and if you have some traffic pumps better to fill them up with some good quality fhg until you build up a huge database of your own...than something you may not make any sales off of.
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:37 PM   #10
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you wanna see the same old shit every day or something different?

well so does the surfer, don't think you can sell him what he has seen time and again.
thats bullshit right there.....

Chnaces of the same noob surfer new to the internet seeing the same fucking gallery in a short time is small


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free hosted galleries are eye candy...mainly for the webmaster.
It's a tool to get you to promote them.
Hell they've been paid for..the hosting is free and if you have some traffic pumps better to fill them up with some good quality fhg until you build up a huge database of your own...than something you may not make any sales off of.
more please
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ok

if you see the same thing every day, 7 days a week chances are that specific thing is not grabbing your attention compaired to things that differ from the norm.. just like if you parked a nice ferarri in a parking lot of ford torus's .. whats gonna stick out if you took an overhead shot
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:39 PM   #14
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:40 PM   #15
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pay me.
will be abusing you...

i mean will be contacting you soon bout some design stuff btw :P
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They are excellent filler but if you're serious about tgp/mgp or submitting, custom is the way to go.
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i mean will be contacting you soon bout some design stuff btw :P
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what if the surfer is not a noob and has been around a couple of years surfing porn ??
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Well if they don't why do I need to offer them? I'm doing everything I can to get you guys and gals to promote the girls of pineapplepink short of doing naked back flips...

What is it going to take... let us know what you need and we'll see what we can do... My site converts well, it just needs traffic!

I would prefer spending my time making promotional tools that webmasters want.

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Old 05-14-2004, 07:41 PM   #21
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Cool
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Eros same hear ill be in touch , pre lauch makes me hard
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Well if they don't why do I need to offer them? I'm doing everything I can to get you guys and gals to promote the girls of pineapplepink short of doing naked back flips...

What is it going to take... let us know what you need and we'll see what we can do... My site converts well, it just needs traffic!

I would prefer spending my time making promotional tools that webmasters want.

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please expand your argument in this debate and maybe discuss your points
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Old 05-14-2004, 07:48 PM   #23
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when they play the Superbowl on tv dont they come out with new commercials? why? same old shit is good enough!

keep it fresh
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what if the surfer is not a noob and has been around a couple of years surfing porn ??
but still..... sure he might run into it but dont make it seem that evry tgp or free site has the same exact fhg;s at last count i used to have like 22k fhg's in my db for my tgps//////that a lot of fhg's
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i agree and disagree to some extent but you have valid points in this debate... please elaborate some more
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if you see the same thing every day, 7 days a week chances are that specific thing is not grabbing your attention compaired to things that differ from the norm.. just like if you parked a nice ferarri in a parking lot of ford torus's .. whats gonna stick out if you took an overhead shot
No but when you are a porn surfer (yes I too was once a porn surfer) an Aria Giovanni gallery is an Aria Giovanni gallery isn't it? Once you have seen that the parking lot is full of ferrari's isn't it hard picking which one is the "most" red?
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if you look at a FHG and think you have better pics to use and you know you can hahahahaha a better text link calling the surfer to click theru to get the good stuff, would you do it to get thise few extra sales or no ?
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No but when you are a porn surfer (yes I too was once a porn surfer) an Aria Giovanni gallery is an Aria Giovanni gallery isn't it? Once you have seen that the parking lot is full of ferrari's isn't it hard picking which one is the "most" red?
very true, and agree with your point, im just saying if you have 50 people using the same gallery blasted all over the place, chances are that a different one with the same content but alterd design will stand out more
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i agree and disagree to some extent but you have valid points in this debate... please elaborate some more

Do you have any porn star traffic lying around?
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very true, and agree with your point, im just saying if you have 50 people using the same gallery blasted all over the place, chances are that a different one with the same content but alterd design will stand out more
I kind of think it's not a totally bad thing that they see the same gallery over and over though. While granted it is not the best for the webmaster it is GREAT for the sponsor to have these galleries submitted and re-submitted. Brian Tracy talks of his sales strategies on his tapes and he says that alot of the time, his sale with any particular client would not come until he had put the same product in the clients face 5 or 6 times on different occasions. For the sponsors I am sure this is their logic no?
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Juicylinks...

My main stay in the adult industry is Photography... My site is only 3 months old... I have been trying to attract webmasters to promote my site for 3 months! I have had over 100 affiliates sign up and only 3 or 4 have sent any traffic at all.

I see on this board that webmasters want FHG's so I added some. They ask for pre-made thumbs so I added them, they want gallery discriptions so I added them. They said I had traffic leaks so I pluged them.

In my case I would say my FHG would be like custom ones... because I can't get webmasters to use them to take my money!

I don't have a lot of time, shooting content, recruting models and up dating the site takes most of my time... So when I do make promotional tools for the site I would like to think I'm making what webmasters want.
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Well if they don't why do I need to offer them? I'm doing everything I can to get you guys and gals to promote the girls of pineapplepink short of doing naked back flips...

maybe it's because after you click the entrance link, nothing works.
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I kind of think it's not a totally bad thing that they see the same gallery over and over though. While granted it is not the best for the webmaster it is GREAT for the sponsor to have these galleries submitted and re-submitted. Brian Tracy talks of his sales strategies on his tapes and he says that alot of the time, his sale with any particular client would not come until he had put the same product in the clients face 5 or 6 times on different occasions. For the sponsors I am sure this is their logic no?
oh yeah i can see that view and sure more of your sites name/face/image thats all out there is branding..

i mean i have no issue with x amount of people using a specific hosted gallery but i myself try to mix it up as much as i can.. hence why i said at the start that i have no issues getting the affilates choice of designer to select what content and what they need from myself to develope what in their mind will be a converting fresh gallery
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DING DING DING DING DING...

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I was interested till nothing worked too..
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It's a no brainier. Just make a gallery on a free site and one on a premium web hosting service. Your conversions will out way your hosting saving the first day if you get on a popular listing.

Before I even Joined DWHS I figured that one out.
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Juicylinks...

My main stay in the adult industry is Photography... My site is only 3 months old... I have been trying to attract webmasters to promote my site for 3 months! I have had over 100 affiliates sign up and only 3 or 4 have sent any traffic at all.

I see on this board that webmasters want FHG's so I added some. They ask for pre-made thumbs so I added them, they want gallery discriptions so I added them. They said I had traffic leaks so I pluged them.

In my case I would say my FHG would be like custom ones... because I can't get webmasters to use them to take my money!

I don't have a lot of time, shooting content, recruting models and up dating the site takes most of my time... So when I do make promotional tools for the site I would like to think I'm making what webmasters want.
what about "in house" marketing? I know what you mena though in regards to alot of affiliates signing up and minimal sending traffci
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Are you saying your not able to get pineapplepink to work? It is working fine for me? Anyone else having problems?

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Well if they don't why do I need to offer them? I'm doing everything I can to get you guys and gals to promote the girls of pineapplepink short of doing naked back flips...

What is it going to take... let us know what you need and we'll see what we can do... My site converts well, it just needs traffic!

I would prefer spending my time making promotional tools that webmasters want.

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I just went to your site to check it out. The images on the second page after you click the enter link are broken. Do you have promo content to build galleries to promote your site? Do you regularly update and add to it?
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Are you saying your not able to get pineapplepink to work? It is working fine for me? Anyone else having problems?

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Yes, I have photo sets availabe at http://www.pineapplecash.com

I don't know why the links are broken for you they all work for me? any Idea...

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then he's well aware of where to get the free shit and he's not going to buy anyway.
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