america bombing israel

[searching]

why doesnt america bomb israel and north korea for thier weapons of mass destruction?

is bush a pussy?


israel has nukes and other wmd's and attacks its niegbours on a daily basis.

north korea has nukes but doesnt attack anyone...

hmm wait a minnute america has nukes too.........i forgot, bush is god right? so hes allowed?

fucking hypocrites

[Triple 6]

go away

[Goose]

america doesn't bomb israel coz they are one of the best consumers for americas weaponsales...

[spamofon]

that would be my wet dream!

[dunefield]

Originally posted by spamofon
that would be my wet dream!

[just a punk]

Originally posted by Goose
america doesn't bomb israel coz they are one of the best consumers for americas weaponsales...

Don't forget Iraq was also ?one of the best consumers for american weapon... What happened to Iraq then?

[Goose]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Don't forget Iraq was also ?one of the best consumers for american weapon... What happened to Iraq then?

you mean Iran, not Iraq...

[Odin]

America is stopping the spread of WMD's, yet they funded Israel in getting theirs. Perhaps it has something to do with the media?

[Paul Waters]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Don't forget Iraq was also ?one of the best consumers for american weapon... What happened to Iraq then?

Hussain was one of the best dictator allies the US ever had. Daddy Bush really fucked up that relationship.

Hussain was hand picked by the CIA, and was the best friend the US had had since Batista.

Hussain invaded Iran for the US. He thought he had the permission of the US to acquire Kuwait. What a fuck up.

For all the adminstration's lies about wanting democracy, they truely want stable, loyal dictatorships.

Unfavourable elections like the recent one in Spain are a real pain in the ass.

[spamofon]

USA with patriot act is like USSR

[just a punk]

Originally posted by Goose


you mean Iran, not Iraq...

No dude, during Iran-Iraq war, Iran was supported and supplied with weapon by Russia. But IRAQ was supported by the United States.

[spamofon]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
No dude, during Iran-Iraq war, Iran was supported and supplied with weapon by Russia. But IRAQ was supported by the United States.

USA secretly gave weapons to Iran and to Iraq
and made a conflict the rest took its own obvious toll

[theking]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Don't forget Iraq was also ?one of the best consumers for american weapon... What happened to Iraq then?

Wrong...the only weapons sold to Iraq by the US was a handful of fixed wing rotary aircraft and the indirect sale of some cluster bombs during the Iran/Iraq war. The weapons that Iraq possessed were primiraly sold to Iraq by Russia, France and Germany provided the bunkers...and maybe some weapons.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by Paul Waters


Hussain was one of the best dictator allies the US ever had. Daddy Bush really fucked up that relationship.

Hussain was hand picked by the CIA, and was the best friend the US had had since Batista.

Correct. This is a historical fact and noone can disprove it.

[SoloGirlsContent]

SEARCHING..you are a fucking moron! Isreal is our ally..dumbass!... bombing them would be like us bombing ourselves..geezus fuckin' christ

[just a punk]

Originally posted by theking


Wrong...the only weapons sold to Iraq by the US was a handful of fixed wing rotary aircraft and the indirect sale of some cluster bombs during the Iran/Iraq war. The weapons that Iraq possessed were primiraly sold to Iraq by Russia, France and Germany provided the bunkers...and maybe some weapons.

Do you remember the gas that Saddam used against Kurds? I tell you some secret man. That gas was produced in the States. So please don't try to look competent it you know nothing about this...

[theking]

Originally posted by Paul Waters


Hussain was one of the best dictator allies the US ever had. Daddy Bush really fucked up that relationship.

Hussain was hand picked by the CIA, and was the best friend the US had had since Batista.

Hussain invaded Iran for the US. He thought he had the permission of the US to acquire Kuwait. What a fuck up.

For all the adminstration's lies about wanting democracy, they truely want stable, loyal dictatorships.

Unfavourable elections like the recent one in Spain are a real pain in the ass.

Saddam acquired power in Iraq by his own methods.

[spamofon]

dont argue with "theking" and "dav555id"

those are the most dumbest political arguying morons on the whole board

both talking shit, when they have no clue, on what continent the USA is located

[theking]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Do you remember the gas that Saddam used against Kurds? I tell you some secret man. That gas was produced in the States. So please don't try to look competent it you know nothing about this...

It was not produced in the US...period.

[theking]

Originally posted by spamofon
dont argue with "theking" and "dav555id"

those are the most dumbest political arguying morons on the whole board

both talking shit, when they have no clue, on what continent the USA is located

Have you found your ass yet...because you do not know your ass from a hole in the ground...and probably...you never will.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by theking


Saddam acquired power in Iraq by his own methods.

With big help of good old USA of course.

[spamofon]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Do you remember the gas that Saddam used against Kurds? I tell you some secret man. That gas was produced in the States. So please don't try to look competent it you know nothing about this...

The U.S. provided financial aid, military intelligence, and actual military planning to Iraq at a time when the Reagan administration was well aware that Iraq was using chemical weapons against Iran. One anonymous inside source told the New York Times that the Pentagon ?wasn't so horrified by Iraq's use of gas. It was just another way of killing people ? whether with a bullet or phosgene, it didn't make any difference.?
The facts surrounding U.S. covert support for Iraq and its awareness that Iraq had been using chemical warfare against the Iranians, and perhaps the Kurds, offers serious implications to the current Bush administration's argument for 'regime change' in Iraq. One of the main premises of the administration's argument is that Saddam Hussein must be removed from power because he is 'evil' - referring of course to the allegation that Saddam Hussein 'gassed his own people.'


USA knew it all along, but never acted, only after many years later, when Bush had to finish some business

[just a punk]

Originally posted by theking


It was not produced in the US...period.

US...period??? What do you mean? Just tell us simply: "that WAS NOT the US gas". Can you say that? Please just read some info on this issue in the Internet (actualy that is now a military secret ;))

[theking]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
With big help of good old USA of course.

BS.

[spamofon]

Full List Of 24 U.S. Weapons Suppliers To Iraq:
"Of course we know the Iraqis have weapons of mass destruction. We have the receipts."
A = nuclear program,
B = bioweapons program,
C = chemical weapons program,
R = rocket program,
K = conventional weapons, military logistics,
supplies at the Iraqi Defense Ministry and the building of military plants.
U.S. CORPORATIONS:

1 Honeywell (R, K)
2 Spectra Physics (K)
3 Semetex (R)
4 TI Coating (A, K)
5 Unisys (A, K)
6 Sperry Corp. (R, K)
7 Tektronix (R, A)
8 Rockwell (K)
9 Leybold Vacuum Systems (A)
10 Finnigan-MAT-US (A)
11 Hewlett-Packard (A, R, K)
12 Dupont (A) 13 Eastman Kodak (R)
14 American Type Culture Collection (B)
15 Alcolac International (C)
16 Consarc (A)
17 Carl Zeiss - U.S (K)
18 Cerberus (LTD) (A)
19 Electronic Associates (R)
20 International Computer Systems (A, R, K)
21 Bechtel (K)
22 EZ Logic Data Systems, Inc. (R)
23 Canberra Industries Inc. (A)
24 Axel Electronics Inc. (A)

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


BS.

i bet this monkey (theking) was never outside USA

[Ironhorse]

Hussain invaded Iran for the US. He thought he had the permission of the US to acquire Kuwait. What a fuck up.

You are under-estimating the leaders of the most powerful nation in history. Saddam did also, by taking a bite out of the juicy bait laid out for him.

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


Have you found your ass yet...because you do not know your ass from a hole in the ground...and probably...you never will.

i found a hole, right in your mouth, where i take shit every day!

[Theo]

what's up with all these threads lately? Someone needs a new hobby.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by spamofon



i bet this monkey (theking) was never outside USA

Support. Perhaps he has never outside his Cleveland (or how exactly his village is called) and the only language he knows is English.

theking, let me know me if that's not true

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


BS.

now take out ur head out of my ass and read historical factsL

1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadeq of Iran. U.S. installs Shah Pahlavi as dictator
1954: U.S. overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200,000 civilians killed
1963: U.S. backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem.
1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia.
September 11, 1973: U.S. stages a coup in Chile. Democratically-elected President Salvador Allende assassinated.
Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed; 5,000 Chileans killed
1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70,000 Salvadorians and four American nuns killed
1980s: U.S. trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billionÊ
1981: Reagan administration trains and funds 'contras' 30,000 Nicaraguans die.
1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.
1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis.
1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as president of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington.
US invades Panama and removes Noriega 3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties
1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from the U.S.
1991: U.S. enters Iraq. Bush Sr. reinstates dictator of Kuwait.
1991- present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis.
U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombings and sanctions.
1998: Clinton bombs "weapons factory" in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin.
2000-01: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid."
September 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his CIA training to 'allegedly' murder 3,000 people.
~ 'Bowling For Columbine', Michael Moore



what part of this you do not understand?

1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.
1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis.


~ Sources: The History Channel, Twentieth Century Atlas, Israeli government,
Federation of American Scientists, International Rescue Committee, International Institute
for Strategic Studies (citing World Military and Social Expenditures), World Priorities.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by spamofon



i bet this monkey (theking) was never outside USA

Support. Perhaps he has never been outside of Cleveland (or how exactly his village is called) and the only language he knows is English.

theking, let me know me if that's not true

[spamofon]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Support. Perhaps he has never outside his Cleveland (or how exactly his village is called) and the only language he knows is English.

theking, let me know me if that's not true

[slackologist]

In Iraq, a decade of harsh sanctions under US pressure has strengthened Saddam while leading to the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis - perhaps more people "than have been slain by all so-called weapons of mass destruction throughout history", military analysts John and Karl Mueller wrote in Foreign Affairs in 1999.

Washington's present justifications to attack Iraq have far less credibility than when President Bush No. 1 was welcoming Saddam as an ally and a trading partner after the Iraqi leader had committed his worst brutalities - as in Halabja, where Iraq attacked Kurds with poison gas in 1988. At the time, the murderer Saddam was more dangerous than he is today.

As for a US attack against Iraq, no one, including Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, can realistically guess the possible costs and consequences.

Radical Islamist extremists surely hope that an attack on Iraq will kill many people and destroy much of the country, providing recruits for terrorist actions.

They presumably also welcome the "Bush doctrine" that proclaims the right of attack against potential threats, which are virtually limitless. The President has announced that: "There's no telling how many wars it will take to secure freedom in the homeland". That's true.

Threats are everywhere, even at home. The prescription for endless war poses a far greater danger to Americans than perceived enemies do, for reasons the terrorist organisations understand very well.

Twenty years ago, the former head of Israeli military intelligence, Yehoshaphat Harkabi, also a leading Arabist, made a point that still holds true. "To offer an honourable solution to the Palestinians, respecting their right to self-determination - that is the solution of the problem of terrorism," he said. "When the swamp disappears, there will be no more mosquitoes."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...115935105.html

[theking]

Originally posted by spamofon
Full List Of 24 U.S. Weapons Suppliers To Iraq:
"Of course we know the Iraqis have weapons of mass destruction. We have the receipts."
A = nuclear program,
B = bioweapons program,
C = chemical weapons program,
R = rocket program,
K = conventional weapons, military logistics,
supplies at the Iraqi Defense Ministry and the building of military plants.
U.S. CORPORATIONS:

1 Honeywell (R, K)
2 Spectra Physics (K)
3 Semetex (R)
4 TI Coating (A, K)
5 Unisys (A, K)
6 Sperry Corp. (R, K)
7 Tektronix (R, A)
8 Rockwell (K)
9 Leybold Vacuum Systems (A)
10 Finnigan-MAT-US (A)
11 Hewlett-Packard (A, R, K)
12 Dupont (A) 13 Eastman Kodak (R)
14 American Type Culture Collection (B)
15 Alcolac International (C)
16 Consarc (A)
17 Carl Zeiss - U.S (K)
18 Cerberus (LTD) (A)
19 Electronic Associates (R)
20 International Computer Systems (A, R, K)
21 Bechtel (K)
22 EZ Logic Data Systems, Inc. (R)
23 Canberra Industries Inc. (A)
24 Axel Electronics Inc. (A)

It is well known that US private enterprise sold materials that had the potential for dual use...and that some of the materials could be weaponized. Pesticides can be weaponized...ferterlizer can be weaponized...there are common household products that can be weaponized. When the extent of the weaponizing of some of these dual use materials was learned by the Government the sales of some of these dual use materials were proscribed...but even then some companies still made sales and paid legal consequences. The only weapons sold to Iraq was a handful of rotorary wing aircraft and the indirect sale of some cluster bombs.

[theking]

Originally posted by spamofon



i bet this monkey (theking) was never outside USA

You lose the bet kid.

[just a punk]

Saddam is just a typical spawn of CIA in a same way as Osama. Everyone remembers the time when States were supporting Taliban and Al'Quaeda in Afghanistan. BTW, the local TV is going to show Rembo III on Saturday. I'll watch it for sure (it's very curiously to see good American superhero Rembo helping peaceful Taliban people to get rid of Russians and accumulate some power to bomb NY on 9/11).

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


It is well known that US private enterprise sold materials that had the potential for dual use...and that some of the materials could be weaponized. Pesticides can be weaponized...ferterlizer can be weaponized...there are common household products that can be weaponized. When the extent of the weaponizing of some of these dual use materials was learned by the Government the sales of some of these dual use materials were proscribed...but even then some companies still made sales and paid legal consequences. The only weapons sold to Iraq was a handful of rotorary wing aircraft and the indirect sale of some cluster bombs.

ahhh please.... silly americans did not know that they were selling
your excuse is soo pathetic, why dont you attack china, they make a lot of soap!! it is dangereous because from glucose you can make bombs and dynamite!!

[spamofon]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
Saddam is just a typical spawn of CIA in a same way as Osama. Everyone remembers the time when States were supporting Taliban and Al'Quaeda in Afghanistan. BTW, the local TV is going to show Rembo III on Saturday. I'll watch it for sure (it's very curiously to see good American superhero Rembo helping peaceful Taliban people to get rid of Russians and accumulate some power to bomb NY on 9/11).

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


You lose the bet kid.

Canada and Mexico are not considered as "outside"

[spamofon]

yes the king!

USA is A DEMOCRATIC country who is trying to fight for PEACE!! (it even sounds funny together)


democratic countries who giht for peace do not MASS murder!

December 7, 1941 - a total of 2,323 U.S. servicemen were killed in Pearl Harbor attack by Japan.
August 6 and 9, 1945 - 205,000 Innocent Japanese were murdered by American Atomic bombs.

[theking]

Originally posted by spamofon


Canada and Mexico are not considered as "outside"

I have been to both as well as a dozen more countries kid...but that does not have anything to do with the price of apples...kid.

[theking]

Originally posted by spamofon
yes the king!

USA is A DEMOCRATIC country who is trying to fight for PEACE!! (it even sounds funny together)


democratic countries who giht for peace do not MASS murder!

December 7, 1941 - a total of 2,323 U.S. servicemen were killed in Pearl Harbor attack by Japan.
August 6 and 9, 1945 - 205,000 Innocent Japanese were murdered by American Atomic bombs.

The US acts in what it perceives to be in its best interests...period. This is what all governments do...but the majority of countries have virtually no power to act in what they percieve to be in their best interests...so they are forced to stand on the sidelines or take the option of aligning themselves with the powerful.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by spamofon



ahhh please.... silly americans did not know that they were selling
your excuse is soo pathetic, why dont you attack china, they make a lot of soap!! it is dangereous because from glucose you can make bombs and dynamite!!

The States don't attack China and North Korea not because these countries are less dangerous that Iraq (actually Iraq has never dangerous for the USA at all). The States don't do that just because they are really AFRAID. There is no even a case in the history when USA attacked some powerful country. All the attacked countries were too weak (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Vietnam or even Fascist Germany when it was totally depleted by the Soviet army by 1943).

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


The US acts in what it perceives to be in its best interests...period. This is what all governments do...but the majority of countries have virtually no power to act in what they percieve to be in their best interests...so they are forced to stand on the sidelines or take the option of aligning themselves with the powerful.

ahh common do not give me this sellf defence crap
they pick up on the weak countries, like a bully
and all the wars are faught pussy stile
send an airplane and bomb from far away so you do not see who you kill kids, woman or soldiers
just like in Japan, dropped bombs on civillians. Japan did not attack civillians, they attacked a military outpost, GOOD OLD USA attacked 2 major cities. And so it does not, attacking small defenceless countries.

[just a punk]

Originally posted by theking


The US acts in what it perceives to be in its best interests...period. This is what all governments do...but the majority of countries have virtually no power to act in what they percieve to be in their best interests...so they are forced to stand on the sidelines or take the option of aligning themselves with the powerful.

This is exactly what Hitler did starting from 1939. Do you remember what happened to him and to whole Germany in 1945?

P.S. I did know the US course of history is bad, but I didn't know it is bad so much

[theking]

Originally posted by cyberxxx
The States don't attack China and North Korea not because these countries are less dangerous that Iraq (actually Iraq has never dangerous for the USA at all). The States don't do that just because they are really AFRAID. There is no even a case in the history when USA attacked some powerful country. All the attacked countries were too weak (Yugoslavia, Iraq, Vietnam or even Fascist Germany when it was totally depleted by the Soviet army by 1943).

Your opinons...are not correct...historically and otherwise.

[GiantsFan]

Use spell check moron.

[spamofon]

Originally posted by theking


Your opinons...are not correct...historically and otherwise.

List of countries that the U.S. has either bombed or gone to war against
since the end of World War II ~ compiled by historian William Blum:
China: 1945-46, 1950-53
Korea: 1950-53 1.6 million civilians dead
Guatemala: 1954, 1960, 1967-69 200,000 dead
Indonesia: 1958
Cuba: 1959-60
Vietnam: 1961-73 541,000 dead including 65,000 North Vietnamese civilians
Belgian Congo: 1964
Laos: 1964-73
Peru: 1965
Cambodia: 1969-70
(Iran-Iraq War 1980-88 50,000 dead, aided and abetted by the U.S.)
Grenada: 1983
Libya: 1986
El Salvador: 1980s
Nicaragua: 1980s 30,000 Nicaraguans dead
Panama: 1989
Invasion of Kuwait by Iraq and First Gulf War: 1990-91 100,000 dead
U.S. frequent bombing raids on Iraq: 1991- 2003, 1.5 million dead from sanctions
Bosnia: 1995
Sudan: 1998
Afghanistan: 1998, 2001-02 5,000 civilians dead
Yugoslavia: 1999
Iraq: 2003 3,000 civilians dead
For The Record:
December 7, 1941 - a total of 2,323 U.S. servicemen were killed in Pearl Harbor attack by Japan.
August 6 and 9, 1945 - 205,000 Innocent Japanese were murdered by American Atomic bombs.
5.7 Million Jews were murdered by Hitler and his Nazis, whilst 13.4 million non-Jews lost their lives
and 11.3 million total were killed in Asia, during WWII.
- Total civilian casualties (excluding military losses) from World War II exceed 30.4 million.
Cambodia, Pol Pot, 1975-78 - 1.6 million dead

~ Sources: The History Channel, Twentieth Century Atlas, Israeli government,
Federation of American Scientists, International Rescue Committee, International Institute
for Strategic Studies (citing World Military and Social Expenditures), World Priorities.

Brutality Smeared In U.S. Peanut Butter
When he announced the Afghan air strikes, President George Bush said: "We're a peaceful nation."
"This is the calling of the United States of America. The most free nation in the world. A nation built on
fundamental values that reject hate, reject violence, rejects murderers and rejects evil. We will not tire."

1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadeq of Iran. U.S. installs Shah Pahlavi as dictator
1954: U.S. overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200,000 civilians killed
1963: U.S. backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem.
1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia.
September 11, 1973: U.S. stages a coup in Chile. Democratically-elected President Salvador Allende assassinated.
Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed; 5,000 Chileans killed
1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70,000 Salvadorians and four American nuns killed
1980s: U.S. trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billionÊ
1981: Reagan administration trains and funds 'contras' 30,000 Nicaraguans die.
1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.
1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis.
1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as president of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington.
US invades Panama and removes Noriega 3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties
1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from the U.S.
1991: U.S. enters Iraq. Bush Sr. reinstates dictator of Kuwait.
1991- present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis.
U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombings and sanctions.
1998: Clinton bombs "weapons factory" in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin.
2000-01: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid."
September 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden uses his CIA training to 'allegedly' murder 3,000 people.
~ 'Bowling For Columbine', Michael Moore

March 2004: The U.S. led by Bush Jr. has now killed over 10,000 Afghan civilians
and more than15,000+ Iraqi civilians (Taliban, Afghan, Iraqi, US and UK soldiers not included).


now show me one powerfull country who could really fight back?

[dj pussy]

Originally posted by Triple 6
go away