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Joe Citizen 04-02-2004 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by theking


What gives you reason to think that they were innocent civilians...and it is BS that our troops did not receive fire on that day.

Because they were unarmed.

Court testimony shows no evidence of even one shot fired at U.S. troops inside the village. Also, no Viet Cong were captured that day.

Listen to what the head murderer William Calley said in court: ?Nobody in the military system ever described them as anything other than Communism. They didn?t give it a race, they didn?t give it a sex, they didn?t give it an age. They never let me believe it was just a philosophy in a man?s mind. That was my enemy out there. And when it became between me and that enemy, I had to value the lives of my troops, and I feel that was the only crime I have committed.?

Now that is a severely brainwashed indvidual.

theking 04-02-2004 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen


Because they were unarmed.

Court testimony shows no evidence of even one shot fired at U.S. troops inside the village. Also, no Viet Cong were captured that day.

Listen to what the head murderer William Calley said in court: ?Nobody in the military system ever described them as anything other than Communism. They didn?t give it a race, they didn?t give it a sex, they didn?t give it an age. They never let me believe it was just a philosophy in a man?s mind. That was my enemy out there. And when it became between me and that enemy, I had to value the lives of my troops, and I feel that was the only crime I have committed.?

Now that is a severely brainwashed indvidual.

That severely brainwashed individual had lost a number of his people (he was a Platoon Leader) in ambush without actually ever seeing the enemy. The Batallion his Platoon belonged to had lost a number of people in and around the four villages one of which was My Lai. That is why it was decided to take the villages out. It was not the first nor the last village that was taken out in a "free fire" zone in Vietnam. Senator Kerry engaged in "free fire zones" in Vietnam. PF engaged in "free fire" zones in Vietnam. Our people were being killed in ambush laid by these "innocent civilians". Unfortunately war is about kill...or be killed...be it civilians or uniformed soldiers.

It is civilians killing Americans in Iraq and they are known and being supported by other civilians...and we need to take the gloves off over there.

mule 04-02-2004 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by theking


That severely brainwashed individual had lost a number of his people (he was a Platoon Leader) in ambush without actually ever seeing the enemy. The Batallion his Platoon belonged to had lost a number of people in and around the four villages one of which was My Lai. That is why it was decided to take the villages out. It was not the first nor the last village that was taken out in a "free fire" zone in Vietnam. Senator Kerry engaged in "free fire zones" in Vietnam. PF engaged in "free fire" zones in Vietnam. Our people were being killed in ambush laid by these "innocent civilians". Unfortunately war is about kill...or be killed...be it civilians or uniformed soldiers.

It is civilians killing Americans in Iraq and they are known and being supported by other civilians...and we need to take the gloves off over there.

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DR_PHIL 04-02-2004 06:44 AM

whata waste iraq is

DavePlays 04-02-2004 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
U.S. troops fired on demonstrators in Falluja last April, killing at least 15 people. Others in the town have been killed since then, often blaming U.S. troops for firing randomly and excessive violence during raids.


and americans are whinging about 4 deaths? fuck that. its deserved. if you are over there you should expect the worst.


You DO know what those 4 civilians were doing don't you?

Escorting a load of food for those people.

It was not deserved - however, I think spending a day playing a hood ornament on a tank for you might be.


Maybe you'd wise up and not be such a jerk.

Odin88 04-02-2004 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen


When you've been owned just pull out the flag.

Hope your little security blanket keeps you snug and warm.

:1orglaugh

Owned, lol? I didn't even support the war, but you are acting like a dickhead. They were civilans, and in any circumstance dancing around the chared remains and dragging them through the streets before dismembering them is savage behaviour (something I am sure you would condemn if the Americans just killed Osama even).

I agree that what America is doing is imperialistic (forcing its culture on others) but at the same time the culture and numerical invasion of America (by Mexicans for example) is really no different. It is a slower process, and it involves no guns, yet it still results in the death of a culture/way of life and ultimately an ethnicity.


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