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ytcracker · 12-24-2003, 04:48 PM

i dont have any problems with gay people or anything, but like fuckign frodo ruined the goddamn movie cuz hes such a whiny little pussy and on top of that it was so obvious he was gay but he needed to come out and fucking say it damnit

i was so mad i bought these im putting fucking gay midget porn on them thanks for ruingin that fucking movie u fuck

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pamphage · 12-24-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
i dont have any problems with gay people or anything, but like fuckign frodo ruined the goddamn movie cuz hes such a whiny little pussy and on top of that it was so obvious he was gay but he needed to come out and fucking say it damnit

i was so mad i bought these im putting fucking gay midget porn on them thanks for ruingin that fucking movie u fuck

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you try carrying the embodiment of all evil to its destruction in mt. doom and then see how fucking "gangsta" u are

mangeli · 12-24-2003, 05:13 PM

There were some parts that seemed like they were together, the way they looked at each other and what not. Plus, Merry and Pippin seemed a little gay as well. However, in the end, sam ended up with the Big Breasted Bar Maid, so maybe he's just bi?

ytcracker · 12-24-2003, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage

you try carrying the embodiment of all evil to its destruction in mt. doom and then see how fucking "gangsta" u are

no the rest of those guys are gangst

gandalf should be pushing a walker but he was regulating magneto style

the rest of the fellowship didnt even need frodo they could have just pushed the ring in a wheelbarrow and then not have to worry about it

SomeCreep · 12-24-2003, 06:09 PM

Yeah Frodo was gay, thats why Salron wanted his ring back.

pamphage · 12-24-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker

gandalf should be pushing a walker but he was regulating magneto style

thats hilarious.

however. frodo was the only one who could do it cuz he was the MOST INNOCENT and PURE HEARTED person in the movie. innocence is the only defense against the evil of the ring. anyone else would have taken it and become as evil as saruman or sauron.

my girlfriend said she didn't really get frodo's character either so i can see why some people don't get it.

Pleasurepays · 12-24-2003, 06:19 PM

OK... we all can imagine how tough it was for you guys to pull yourselves away from your Dungeons and Dragons marathons for a few minutes to debate the sexual orientation of fictitious characters in a movie adaptation of a book. impressive!

Which one of you guys is really this guy?

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$5 submissions · 12-24-2003, 06:22 PM

I don't really see what the big deal is about. Is it really surprising that the movie has "gay" undertones when you consider that JRR Tolkien was bisexual? Move on, gay is just another sexual orientation, no more no less.

ytcracker · 12-24-2003, 06:39 PM

it just bugs me like if frodo would just come out and say "yes im gay" id be like I KNEW IT I KNEW IT FRODO THANK YOU SO MUCH because then i could sleep at night

but now he will haunt my dreams forever because he may just be as afeminate as the rest of the hobbits or they could all be gay i will never know DAMNIT TOLKIEN WHY

Sarah_Jayne · 12-24-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
it just bugs me like if frodo would just come out and say "yes im gay" id be like I KNEW IT I KNEW IT FRODO THANK YOU SO MUCH because then i could sleep at night

I've said it before and I will say it again - being straight is way too much hard work.

12-24-2003, 06:55 PM

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Ic3m4nZ · 12-24-2003, 06:58 PM

who fucking cares about Frodo .. Lord of the rings 3 will be the best movie in 2003 even if he's everything..

ytcracker · 12-24-2003, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc

I've said it before and I will say it again - being straight is way too much hard work.

yep i give up

im now starring in my own sitcom "queer as shirefolk"

Ben-MensNiche · 12-24-2003, 08:12 PM

I think you guys were reading too much into it...maybe the actors are gay.

Did anyone read the books? Are they gay in the books?

V_RocKs · 12-24-2003, 08:14 PM

The entire theater was yelling, DO IT! DO IT! JUST FUCKING KISS ALREADY!

OK, now on to Captain James T. Kirk... gay?

ChumpChange · 12-24-2003, 10:00 PM

what else to expect frm a movie like this....lord of the rings

Head · 12-24-2003, 10:25 PM

I didn't think it was that bad; but the book Two towers was big time! And it was finished in the 50's

$5 submissions · 12-24-2003, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by V_RocKs
The entire theater was yelling, DO IT! DO IT! JUST FUCKING KISS ALREADY!

OK, now on to Captain James T. Kirk... gay?

Captain Kirk? Hmmm I don't know he seemed to have bedded so many alien chicks you'd think he was the Interstellar version of Don Juan.

Rorschach · 12-24-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
but now he will haunt my dreams forever because he may just be as afeminate as the rest of the hobbits or they could all be gay i will never know DAMNIT TOLKIEN WHY

you're going to be dreaming about a homosexual hobbit?

ytcracker · 12-24-2003, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach

you're going to be dreaming about a homosexual hobbit?

i do everynight anyway

Jamdin · 12-24-2003, 10:37 PM

Brujah · 12-25-2003, 01:01 AM

it wasn't gay, it was innocence.. and purity and genuine care. they are in touch with their feminine side.

eGawd · 12-25-2003, 01:12 AM

Maybe he is a metrosexual hobbit who is in touch with the softer side of being a man. LOL

Brujah · 12-25-2003, 01:15 AM

I just can't see it.

JSA Matt · 12-25-2003, 01:18 AM

is the NAACP going to give them shit about gollum calling the hobbit master?

media · 12-25-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
OK... we all can imagine how tough it was for you guys to pull yourselves away from your Dungeons and Dragons marathons for a few minutes to debate the sexual orientation of fictitious characters in a movie adaptation of a book. impressive!

Which one of you guys is really this guy?

http://www.thepornmag.com/aicha.wmv

LOL! This has to be the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.. They should put him on american idol with the guy who sang "Like a virgin" they could make a fugly pimple boy band..

*shivers*

Media

rip raster · 12-25-2003, 01:46 AM

What about tranny hobbits, maybe the barmaid that Sam marries is really a tranny

Rip

media · 12-25-2003, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by rip raster
What about tranny hobbits, maybe the barmaid that Sam marries is really a tranny

Hrmm.. Ask Kman

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ytcracker · 12-25-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
is the NAACP going to give them shit about gollum calling the hobbit master?

god that was funny
and my 8ball says yes

pamphage · 12-25-2003, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker

im now starring in my own sitcom "queer as shirefolk"

lol

pornguy · 12-25-2003, 09:11 AM

No one in the books was gay, and none of them acted gay...

One of the things that people did not like about the first movies was that they ended just like the books. But wehn I saw the movies, I was disappointed... They were ok.. Off from the books, but ok.. I have not seen the third one yet.

pornguy · 12-25-2003, 09:12 AM

Did anyone see the D movie Lord of the G-Strings???

- AFN - · 12-25-2003, 12:16 PM

Lord of the Cock Rings... now THAT would be a gay movie.

Lane · 12-25-2003, 12:42 PM

IMO all it did was to expose the homophobia. I'm glad the director didn't avoid scenes like Frodo kissing Sam on the forehead. Proves that he is not afraid of the narrowminded to interpret things in a different way.

Is it homosexual when russians kiss eachother on the lips?

The way the hobbits act in the emotional situations was consistent with how their characters have been portrayed in these stories i think.

pamphage · 12-25-2003, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
IMO all it did was to expose the homophobia. I'm glad the director didn't avoid scenes like Frodo kissing Sam on the forehead. Proves that he is not afraid of the narrowminded to interpret things in a different way.

Is it homosexual when russians kiss eachother on the lips?

The way the hobbits act in the emotional situations was consistent with how their characters have been portrayed in these stories i think.

ah. intelligence.

Elli · 12-25-2003, 01:53 PM

The relationship between Frodo and Sam is outdated now. But when it was written, it made perfect sense. Gandalf told Frodo to bring Sam along as his manservant, to help carry stuff and whatnot. So Sam calls him "Master Frodo". It's very classist, but that's how it was. Greek phillosphy stated that a servant loves his master above himself, because his master in return will take care of everything for him. Anyways, they become good friends, what with saving each other's lives every other day, so they grow close. And males back then weren't afraid to admit they loved each other.

But if I see one more person, hobbit or otherwise, well up with tears, I'm gonna scream.

Honeyslut · 12-25-2003, 02:36 PM

Sam=Sean Astin is married with two kids.

Lane · 12-26-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
The relationship between Frodo and Sam is outdated now. But when it was written, it made perfect sense. Gandalf told Frodo to bring Sam along as his manservant, to help carry stuff and whatnot. So Sam calls him "Master Frodo". It's very classist, but that's how it was. Greek phillosphy stated that a servant loves his master above himself, because his master in return will take care of everything for him. Anyways, they become good friends, what with saving each other's lives every other day, so they grow close. And males back then weren't afraid to admit they loved each other.

But if I see one more person, hobbit or otherwise, well up with tears, I'm gonna scream.

did he call him Master Frodo or Mr. Frodo?

axelcat · 12-26-2003, 05:24 PM

I heard the movie rocks

Pornwolf · 12-26-2003, 05:27 PM

*This guy likes twinks*

brand0n · 12-26-2003, 05:28 PM

frodo can suck a cock as far as im conserned

archer · 12-26-2003, 05:48 PM

homosexual undertones?

sheesh...... i'm beginning to think straight boys see queers everywhere. lol

there is no homosexuality in LOTR. ( and this is coming from a queer boy)

harvey · 12-26-2003, 05:51 PM

problem here is most 17-19 yo people (that means 99.23% of GFY members) don't realize that this film was made over a book with almost 70 years old. And in all that time, the homosexuality of Tolkien and his characters was widely discussed: yes, no, who cares, blah-blah-blah. And basically, it all ends in WHO CARES. The book is great (the movie is quite poor, but whatever) and if Frodo or even Sauron is gay, that's part of the book. You like it or you don't.

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pamphage · 12-26-2003, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elli
The relationship between Frodo and Sam is outdated now. But when it was written, it made perfect sense. Gandalf told Frodo to bring Sam along as his manservant, to help carry stuff and whatnot. So Sam calls him "Master Frodo". It's very classist, but that's how it was. Greek phillosphy stated that a servant loves his master above himself, because his master in return will take care of everything for him. Anyways, they become good friends, what with saving each other's lives every other day, so they grow close. And males back then weren't afraid to admit they loved each other.

But if I see one more person, hobbit or otherwise, well up with tears, I'm gonna scream.

another good post on this subject. that makes like 3 since the thread started. the rest of you are repressed homos and probably think bert and ernie were gay too

codymc12 · 12-26-2003, 06:47 PM

It was a sign of the times, as said earlier. You'll see all kinds of references like this in older, classical literature. Sayings like 'he loved his master, more than he loved himself' or knights who 'love their king.'

Kissing a ring or a hand, male to male, was always a sign of fealty and obedience. And the big, hairy, badass guys who carried swords and killed for a living didn't think much of hugging each other hello, even though their views on homosexuality were narrower than Strom Thurman's.

Finally, a kiss on the forehead was considered a sexless benediction. Like a blessing.

Thou must suspendth the views of our times, and yea, verily, adopt those of old, lest you think the hobbits gay...

codymc12 · 12-26-2003, 06:49 PM

Besides, what about the REAL debate?

Were the hobbits pot heads, or not?

Saruman tells Gandalf his 'love of the hobbit leaf' clouded his judgement. And the hobbits ALWAYS have the munchies...

Elli · 12-26-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
Besides, what about the REAL debate?

Were the hobbits pot heads, or not?

Saruman tells Gandalf his 'love of the hobbit leaf' clouded his judgement. And the hobbits ALWAYS have the munchies...

They called it tobacco. The premium brand was "Longbottom Leaf". That's it. No hallucinogenics, just tobacco.

Elli · 12-26-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Lane

did he call him Master Frodo or Mr. Frodo?

From the Two Towers: "Well master, we're in a fix and no mistake," said Sam Gamgee.

"What can I do Mr. Frodo? What can I do?"

So Sam calls him both. Also, the way the voices are written, Sam has a very low-class, rural "accent" whereas Frodo speaks proper English in full sentences more often, reinforcing the class distinction between them.

Gollum also recognizes Frodo as the person in charge.

"But master has gone to sleep, and perhaps Sam wants to sleep. Doesn't want rabbits now?" (Gollum to Sam in TTT)

Seriously, people. Sometimes I hate newbies

codymc12 · 12-26-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Elli

They called it tobacco. The premium brand was "Longbottom Leaf". That's it. No hallucinogenics, just tobacco.

Absolutely correct.

For 10,000 dollars - Gandalf was the keeper of a ring of power, true or false?

Elli · 12-26-2003, 07:22 PM

I can't find my copy of the first book, but I believe he was a guardian for a short while, but lost it for whatever reason. It wasn't his to use, though.

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codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	It was a sign of the times, as said earlier. You'll see all kinds of references like this in older, classical literature. Sayings like 'he loved his master, more than he loved himself' or knights who 'love their king.' Kissing a ring or a hand, male to male, was always a sign of fealty and obedience. And the big, hairy, badass guys who carried swords and killed for a living didn't think much of hugging each other hello, even though their views on homosexuality were narrower than Strom Thurman's. Finally, a kiss on the forehead was considered a sexless benediction. Like a blessing. Thou must suspendth the views of our times, and yea, verily, adopt those of old, lest you think the hobbits gay...

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codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	Besides, what about the REAL debate? Were the hobbits pot heads, or not? Saruman tells Gandalf his 'love of the hobbit leaf' clouded his judgement. And the hobbits ALWAYS have the munchies...

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