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Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 08:03 AM

But our monthy membership model won't work...They don't make alot of money US $500 a month, but much less in most cases...

Maybe SMS or MMS billing at like $.50 for an our or something like that.

Any other ideas for countries with not much money?

maxjohan · 11-11-2003, 08:28 AM

If they can't afford porn how the fuck can you think they can buy a computer or a mobile phone`?

JFK · 11-11-2003, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
If they can't afford porn how the fuck can you think they can buy a computer or a mobile phone`?

there are more mobile phones and computers than you can shake a stick at ! They use a different billing model, as hank says the price point is the major stumbling block. BTW Hank did you get my email ??

JamesK · 11-11-2003, 08:35 AM

dialers?

digifan · 11-11-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
On a serious note tho the way the system could work is that they would buy daily access or buy megabytes like 250 megs transfer for 1 sms that was billed at $1. I think systems like these are already operational but only for England I think which totally blows as this would also be great for Scandinavian customers as we are the ones that SMS the most in the entire world.

That's a good idea... there are very poor and very rich people in Eastern Europe, no more middle class... mobile phones are spreading like wild fire and they have pcs also at work and at home. Funny but modem users are still charged by min in some countires while dsl is cheap.

q00p · 11-11-2003, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
But our monthy membership model won't work...They don't make alot of money US $500 a month, but much less in most cases...

Maybe SMS or MMS billing at like $.50 for an our or something like that.

Any other ideas for countries with not much money?

Hmm I have noticed that alot of the Gay TGPP's out there are run out of Eastern Europe.. Its a big market...

Gimmy · 11-11-2003, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
But our monthy membership model won't work...They don't make alot of money US $500 a month, but much less in most cases...

Maybe SMS or MMS billing at like $.50 for an our or something like that.

Any other ideas for countries with not much money?

more of a big market for fraud

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-11-2003, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by q00p

Hmm I have noticed that alot of the Gay TGPP's out there are run out of Eastern Europe.. Its a big market...

Poorer countries makes for cheaper content - (Except for those content producers who try and fix prices at slightly under the standard American prices)

But, as said, the market the selling here is much smaller as wages are very low - A solution to this would create a lot of extra cash

Trent Edison · 11-11-2003, 08:56 AM

Yeah what big market are u talking about if theres no fucking money in people pockets? If theres no money neither alternative billing solution will help...

xdcdave · 11-11-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
We are working on such a solution but for the arab world only as of now.

It's called.

UploadACamel.com

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Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
If they can't afford porn how the fuck can you think they can buy a computer or a mobile phone`?

Excuse me, but they all have FUCKING PHONES...Everyone Walking the streets including the University students had a FUCKIN PHONE...That ain't the problem!!!

Oracle Porn · 11-11-2003, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin

Excuse me, but they all have FUCKING PHONES...Everyone Walking the streets including the University students had a FUCKIN PHONE...That ain't the problem!!!

I don't have a cell phone

iggysick · 11-11-2003, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Trent Edison
Yeah what big market are u talking about if theres no fucking money in people pockets? If theres no money neither alternative billing solution will help...

Wrong! In my country people makes average 600-700$ per month and some of them are willing to pay for porn but billing is the BIG problem! They do not want pay for anything with cc online and that is the REAL problem.
We have 100s local online stores but more that 99% puraches are made by money order and POD.
As far as I know in some other richer countries you just can't convince people to pay for something online with cc.
Over here we have one or two local pay sites and people paying monthly fee by direct bank transfer

JFK · 11-11-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin

Excuse me, but they all have FUCKING PHONES...Everyone Walking the streets including the University students had a FUCKIN PHONE...That ain't the problem!!!

You Tell em Hank

Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by JFK

there are more mobile phones and computers than you can shake a stick at ! They use a different billing model, as hank says the price point is the major stumbling block. BTW Hank did you get my email ??

JFK, just got back and I have not been in office yet to check my mr skin email...I will get back to you as soon as I do

iggysick · 11-11-2003, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by maxjohan
If they can't afford porn how the fuck can you think they can buy a computer or a mobile phone`?

2 mobile phones per household in my country and around 20% of total population online as of now.

Madball · 11-11-2003, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
would buy daily access or buy megabytes like 250 megs transfer for 1 sms that was billed at $1.

Cool! So they pay $1 (buys them a large beer in a club) to leech 250 megs of porn which takes them 10 days to download on their trusty 14.4 kbps modem.

Broadband penetration in Poland, Czech, Hungary, Ukraine etc. is < 3%.

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-11-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by Madball
Cool! So they pay $1 (buys them a large beer in a club) to leech 250 megs of porn which takes them 10 days to download on their trusty 14.4 kbps modem.

Broadband penetration in Poland, Czech, Hungary, Ukraine etc. is < 3%.

Really?

Here in Poland broadband is extremely cheap and pretty much available to all

loverboy · 11-11-2003, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker

Really?

Here in Poland broadband is extremely cheap and pretty much available to all

yeah, we are abit worried about the extent of technology is being offered to Europe countires. i know that some has the advantage, but not all.

spamofon · 11-11-2003, 10:07 AM

Welcome to the real world Neo

Twe Russ · 11-11-2003, 10:18 AM

This is a little off topic but in the same nature. Curious...

Does anyone know if there are any SMS bulk services out there?
What are the charge rate like per SMS, or are they using other
payment structure?

Petr · 11-11-2003, 10:30 AM

Over 85% of people in the Czech Republic have mobile phones. The broadband internet connection penetration will be 16% by the end of this year. FYI.

smahnat · 11-11-2003, 12:25 PM

Situation in Bulgaria.
About 3 million cell phones (population is about 8 million) but no SMS billing
Everyone has a Cirrus Maestro debit card, but CC are probably less than 20000

There is a solution for using the debitcards online and the system is pretty secure. I think that there isn't a single real froad until now. But I'm afraid that you need a company registered in Bulgaria in order to accept debit cards.
Phone billing is the only thing that might work. But people are smart and they don't use foreign dialers. They are about 4-5 times more expensive than the local (local, about $0.80/min).
Bottom line - you won't make lots of money from Bulgaria

))
Membership scratch cards might work.

Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn

I don't have a cell phone

Obviously, you have a computer

Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker

Really?

Here in Poland broadband is extremely cheap and pretty much available to all

Hey HarlotCash Dyker, I just got back from Poznan, where are you at???

Why · 11-11-2003, 07:26 PM

what about a model like a calling card.

you buy the card somewhere, it gets sent to you. or point of purchase. and the first time you use the user/pass on the card activates it for 30 days or whatever?

Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Why
what about a model like a calling card.

you buy the card somewhere, it gets sent to you. or point of purchase. and the first time you use the user/pass on the card activates it for 30 days or whatever?

Takes too long and 3o day pass would have to cost to much...I think micro-payments are the key. Hit em for $0.50 - $1.00 at a time

Mikey_219Inc · 11-11-2003, 09:03 PM

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Petr · 11-11-2003, 09:37 PM

We used to have two or three internet micropayment systems here in the CZ. All went out of business. FYI.

Hank_Heartland · 11-11-2003, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Petr
We used to have two or three internet micropayment systems here in the CZ. All went out of business. FYI.

OK, that tells me why not to do business there, are there any reasons to do business there???

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smahnat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Bulgaria :) Posts: 12	Situation in Bulgaria. About 3 million cell phones (population is about 8 million) but no SMS billing Everyone has a Cirrus Maestro debit card, but CC are probably less than 20000 There is a solution for using the debitcards online and the system is pretty secure. I think that there isn't a single real froad until now. But I'm afraid that you need a company registered in Bulgaria in order to accept debit cards. Phone billing is the only thing that might work. But people are smart and they don't use foreign dialers. They are about 4-5 times more expensive than the local (local, about $0.80/min). Bottom line - you won't make lots of money from Bulgaria )) Membership scratch cards might work. __________________ http://www.GoldKnox.com Have some e-gold? Double it!

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