What % of Webmasters Cheat Sponsors? - GoFuckYourself.com

KRL · 11-09-2003, 12:08 AM

So much talk about sponsors cheating webmasters, I'd bet there are way more webmasters that try and cheat sponsors and other webmasters.

Your opinion?

cluck · 11-09-2003, 12:12 AM

That TRY maybe.

http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

The "big players" here are the ones getting $50 checks, but that's a side job cause they make a killing ripping off the soda machines at school!

KRL · 11-09-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by cluck
That TRY maybe.

http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

The "big players" here are the ones getting $50 checks, but that's a side job cause they make a killing ripping off the soda machines at school!

Geez, they are so damn blatant about it. What the fuck, talking in a forum about how to steal credit card numbers. I can't believe ISP's don't shut these kinds of forums down instantly. No wonder so much computer crime occurs.

cluck · 11-09-2003, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

Geez, they are so damn blatant about it. What the fuck, talking in a forum about how to steal credit card numbers. I can't believe ISP's don't shut these kinds of forums down instantly. No wonder so much computer crime occurs.

At least we know where to go to stay one step ahead of them! Look at all the CCBill exploiting shit on there. Kids are having a field day with paysites and tons of webmasters haven't even patched theirs yet.

Mutt · 11-09-2003, 12:27 AM

amazing how somebody doesn't shut that down, look at this thread, they post cc numbers, names, addresses right out in the open - then they start pissing with each other cuz nobody said thanks to the guy who posted them and the cards were all dead now having exceeded the daily spending limit.

http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=7;t=000950

cluck · 11-09-2003, 12:29 AM

http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=8;t=000113

I personally liked lil2rich's guide to making it big from legit adult sites better.

KRL · 11-09-2003, 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
amazing how somebody doesn't shut that down, look at this thread, they post cc numbers, names, addresses right out in the open - then they start pissing with each other cuz nobody said thanks to the guy who posted them and the cards were all dead now having exceeded the daily spending limit.

http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=7;t=000950

Holy fuck. That is unbelievable. I didn't see that section.

What total thieving scumbags.

On second thought. Hmmmm, anyone want some joins?

LOL, just kidding. . .

chowda · 11-09-2003, 12:33 AM

i knew shit like that b4. talk to carders and ask about ther skillz... they got smarter now, and everyone else got smarter cept me.

Furious_Female · 11-09-2003, 12:35 AM

Well I'm sure there are many "webmasters" that commit acts of fraud against sponsors and they are the ones that ruin it for the rest of us that send genuine sign ups and not to mention Visa/Mastercard coming down on us for what others do.

I think most of the fraud comes from other countries, Russia, India etc... if I were running an affiliate program, I wouldn't accept affiliates in a lot of countries. There's fraud in the US, but it's not as easy to get away with, as it would be in other countries.

Fraudulent people

Murderous · 11-09-2003, 12:39 AM

What percent of sponsors cheat webmasters... that's the question.

woj · 11-09-2003, 12:44 AM

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The reason im paying someone 20-25 dollars to do it is bc the beat was 20 dollars and i will give the person an extra 5 if they can get it done this week.

I know i sound like a "kiddy script" but im not just trying to be
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LOLOL

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jayeff · 11-09-2003, 01:25 AM

More cheating webmasters than cheating sponsors, certainly. Whose cheating involves the most money? Who knows...

But if a sponsor with $2M a month sales were creaming off say 10%, that's around $100K lost to their affiliates. It takes a lot of the $50 cheaters someone mentioned to beat that.

As long as most of the sponsors are private companies we won't know what they get up to or what they suffer. From experience in other industries I would guess that sponsors lose less through petty crooks than at the hands of people who cheat in a much more organised and harder to detect fashion: for example, hiding a 'reasonable' level of fraud among a high volume of legitimate transactions.

Blowing off a few small webmasters is like stores catching shoplifters: high profile, but not making much of a dent in the overall problem (which in their case is mainly caused by suppliers and staff). And since only a tiny minority are involved in theft or fraud on a serious scale, effective measures to catch them are often impractical and usually more costly than the losses they prevent.

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-09-2003, 01:25 AM

Of course, a few webmasters use these types of sites to rip off programmes - I have caught a couple recently trying it on with my programme -

Being on the ball with this kind of shit meant these thieves were caught long before they were due payment -

That does not give me the right to shave honest webmasters...

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-09-2003, 01:34 AM

Here is a guy who likes to use stolen credit card numbers to steal from sponsors:

http://www.bestgirls-for-you.com/

11-09-2003, 12:08 AM	#1
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11-09-2003, 12:12 AM	#2
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	That TRY maybe. http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi The "big players" here are the ones getting $50 checks, but that's a side job cause they make a killing ripping off the soda machines at school! __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

11-09-2003, 12:27 AM	#5
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	amazing how somebody doesn't shut that down, look at this thread, they post cc numbers, names, addresses right out in the open - then they start pissing with each other cuz nobody said thanks to the guy who posted them and the cards were all dead now having exceeded the daily spending limit. http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=7;t=000950 __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-09-2003, 12:29 AM	#6
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	http://ccpowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ult...c;f=8;t=000113 I personally liked lil2rich's guide to making it big from legit adult sites better. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

11-09-2003, 12:33 AM	#8
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	i knew shit like that b4. talk to carders and ask about ther skillz... they got smarter now, and everyone else got smarter cept me. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

11-09-2003, 12:35 AM	#9
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	Well I'm sure there are many "webmasters" that commit acts of fraud against sponsors and they are the ones that ruin it for the rest of us that send genuine sign ups and not to mention Visa/Mastercard coming down on us for what others do. I think most of the fraud comes from other countries, Russia, India etc... if I were running an affiliate program, I wouldn't accept affiliates in a lot of countries. There's fraud in the US, but it's not as easy to get away with, as it would be in other countries. Fraudulent people __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

11-09-2003, 12:39 AM	#10
Murderous Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,938	What percent of sponsors cheat webmasters... that's the question.

11-09-2003, 01:25 AM	#13
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	More cheating webmasters than cheating sponsors, certainly. Whose cheating involves the most money? Who knows... But if a sponsor with $2M a month sales were creaming off say 10%, that's around $100K lost to their affiliates. It takes a lot of the $50 cheaters someone mentioned to beat that. As long as most of the sponsors are private companies we won't know what they get up to or what they suffer. From experience in other industries I would guess that sponsors lose less through petty crooks than at the hands of people who cheat in a much more organised and harder to detect fashion: for example, hiding a 'reasonable' level of fraud among a high volume of legitimate transactions. Blowing off a few small webmasters is like stores catching shoplifters: high profile, but not making much of a dent in the overall problem (which in their case is mainly caused by suppliers and staff). And since only a tiny minority are involved in theft or fraud on a serious scale, effective measures to catch them are often impractical and usually more costly than the losses they prevent.

11-09-2003, 01:25 AM	#14
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Of course, a few webmasters use these types of sites to rip off programmes - I have caught a couple recently trying it on with my programme - Being on the ball with this kind of shit meant these thieves were caught long before they were due payment - That does not give me the right to shave honest webmasters... __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

11-09-2003, 01:34 AM	#15
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Here is a guy who likes to use stolen credit card numbers to steal from sponsors: http://www.bestgirls-for-you.com/ __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!