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bhutocracy · 11-08-2003, 06:44 PM

Whats the point of enslaving humanity and using them as batteries (when this is already a crazily inefficent energy souce) and going through this whole rigmarole after the humans "scorched the sky" when they could just build a solar tower like a mile or two through the clouds neo and trinity went through on the surface? a solar space station sending charged batteries back do to earth - solar weather balloons...

it's like drowning when you could have just made your snorkel longer.

I thought it was a good movie (thanks TGC sig whores tuga and brandon for spoiling it like pre-pubescent boys) but yeah.. raised a couple of issues.

sternyduke · 11-08-2003, 06:47 PM

it's a comic book. nothing is supposed to make sense. i remember someone mentioning using the earth's core for energy one time, which would make sense to me.

spamofon · 11-08-2003, 07:04 PM

yeah lol

well what happened to nuclear energy? hydro..wind..so on and on...

liquidmoe · 11-08-2003, 07:18 PM

Room for debate but you could just view it as how humans need animals to survive, such as all the cows we eat, chickents, pigs, etc. So reversing those roles with machines and making humans the equivalent of live stock makes it philosophically more interesting. Not necessarily more technologically feasible, but at least from a philosophical stand point, there could definitely be something more to it.

chodadog · 11-08-2003, 07:57 PM

Something i found interesting:

In the second movie, when Neo met the architect, it showed all the times he had met the architect before on the screens. Obviously, this means that in the previous versions of the matrix, neo had gotten that far, as well. Now.. wouldn't that also mean he'd made it out into the real world each time, as well? And if so, how are the machines able to "reload" the real world whenever the reload the matrix?

lexr · 11-08-2003, 11:01 PM

Each coming of the One ended with him returning to the Source. This time he was different (as even the Architect mentioned) and went through the other door. While there are some holes in the trilogy's story (I liken it to any plot found in major Anime films), it's fairly deep if you think about it and watch the movies enough times. It could spur tons and tons of hours of discussion.

lexr · 11-08-2003, 11:07 PM

Obviously the biggest hole in the plot would be: Why didn't the machines clear up the damn sky? I mean, take an all powerful super computer with the most amazing intelligence ever (I mean, damn, it created the Matrix, that shit isn't easy to program!) and give it over 1000 years.. and it couldn't figure out how to clear up the sky?

Why do I say a 1000 years? Well, all the humans think it's like 2199 or something, but they're all mistaken. This is the 6th coming of the One. That means the matrix has been reloaded 5 times (not including initial reloads during testing and when they formed version 2.0). Since the Architect said he preferred to count from one coming to the other, that hinted that each coming didn't occur at the same time. And consider each reload might put us back to 1850 or 1900 and then all the way through the coming of the One (which in the 6th time it was in 1999).. a rough estimate would probably put the current year at the year 3000 or something close.

Hell, even humans in 1000 year could've probably figured it out.. let alone a supercomputer.

Dildozer · 11-08-2003, 11:13 PM

The fucking idiots that let out spoilers on this board, i swear to god i wanted to kill them when i left the movie theater on thursday

Motherfucking sig whores

jo3 · 11-08-2003, 11:33 PM

third one was kind of a let down... first one rocked so so hard

phatzane® · 11-08-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jo3
third one was kind of a let down... first one rocked so so hard

you said hard...

11-08-2003, 06:44 PM	#1
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	Matrix 3 question * SPOILER* Whats the point of enslaving humanity and using them as batteries (when this is already a crazily inefficent energy souce) and going through this whole rigmarole after the humans "scorched the sky" when they could just build a solar tower like a mile or two through the clouds neo and trinity went through on the surface? a solar space station sending charged batteries back do to earth - solar weather balloons... it's like drowning when you could have just made your snorkel longer. I thought it was a good movie (thanks TGC sig whores tuga and brandon for spoiling it like pre-pubescent boys) but yeah.. raised a couple of issues.

11-08-2003, 07:57 PM	#5
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Something i found interesting: In the second movie, when Neo met the architect, it showed all the times he had met the architect before on the screens. Obviously, this means that in the previous versions of the matrix, neo had gotten that far, as well. Now.. wouldn't that also mean he'd made it out into the real world each time, as well? And if so, how are the machines able to "reload" the real world whenever the reload the matrix? __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

11-08-2003, 11:01 PM	#6
lexr Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 428	Each coming of the One ended with him returning to the Source. This time he was different (as even the Architect mentioned) and went through the other door. While there are some holes in the trilogy's story (I liken it to any plot found in major Anime films), it's fairly deep if you think about it and watch the movies enough times. It could spur tons and tons of hours of discussion. __________________ Amateur content producer. Professional complainer. Sig space for rent!

11-08-2003, 11:07 PM	#7
lexr Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 428	Obviously the biggest hole in the plot would be: Why didn't the machines clear up the damn sky? I mean, take an all powerful super computer with the most amazing intelligence ever (I mean, damn, it created the Matrix, that shit isn't easy to program!) and give it over 1000 years.. and it couldn't figure out how to clear up the sky? Why do I say a 1000 years? Well, all the humans think it's like 2199 or something, but they're all mistaken. This is the 6th coming of the One. That means the matrix has been reloaded 5 times (not including initial reloads during testing and when they formed version 2.0). Since the Architect said he preferred to count from one coming to the other, that hinted that each coming didn't occur at the same time. And consider each reload might put us back to 1850 or 1900 and then all the way through the coming of the One (which in the 6th time it was in 1999).. a rough estimate would probably put the current year at the year 3000 or something close. Hell, even humans in 1000 year could've probably figured it out.. let alone a supercomputer. __________________ Amateur content producer. Professional complainer. Sig space for rent!

11-08-2003, 11:13 PM	#8
Dildozer Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,519	The fucking idiots that let out spoilers on this board, i swear to god i wanted to kill them when i left the movie theater on thursday Motherfucking sig whores __________________ Spam link here

11-08-2003, 06:47 PM	#2
sternyduke Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 1,082	it's a comic book. nothing is supposed to make sense. i remember someone mentioning using the earth's core for energy one time, which would make sense to me.

11-08-2003, 07:04 PM	#3
spamofon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,999	yeah lol well what happened to nuclear energy? hydro..wind..so on and on...

11-08-2003, 07:18 PM	#4
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Room for debate but you could just view it as how humans need animals to survive, such as all the cows we eat, chickents, pigs, etc. So reversing those roles with machines and making humans the equivalent of live stock makes it philosophically more interesting. Not necessarily more technologically feasible, but at least from a philosophical stand point, there could definitely be something more to it.

11-08-2003, 11:33 PM	#9
jo3 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 876	third one was kind of a let down... first one rocked so so hard