hey Lens, when's the Montreal webmaster access again?

July 10-12, 2004

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you could at least ask me if I want to go to dinner first......

Yeah... But this isn't new -- how many parties have you gone to at Internext where you know the fuckers are shaving -- and you still go anyway because it's a free party...?

I tend to plan my party schedule accordingly... Especially if there's two parties at the same time -- I'll go to the non-shaving party...

Other than that -- I'm pretty neutral.

I have to agree that I thought the same thing -- really do you give a shit if hot "Hustler" models will be at this party? Really what have they done for you lately? They don't have a popular affiliate program... They had a leg site that supposedly rocked but I sent them some traffic a year ago and they shaved pretty hard -- I think I can say that now because I thought I heard they shut down their program just to sell the content...? I don't see them posting on GFY like they used to... I don't see Hustler ads on hardly any sites... I probably will look like an ass for saying this -- but I think these oldschool brands will slowly fade away to younger-more tech savvy internet brands that are re-investing real internet profits into new ventures -- and these old brands just won't be able to compete unless they start sucking some internet dick... I really don't know or care what goes on behind the scenes because it's none of my biz, but it sure is fun to speculate :)

My drama days are over :1orglaugh -- I'm happy now to just eat popcorn and watch the antics unfold :Graucho

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cool, I get to be a VIP too? does it get any better than this? :thumbsup

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Not sure what you consider popular, but our affiliate program does extremely well and has for the last couple years. You might not see us in every other spam or on tons of TGP's, but all in, we're still one of the larger programs out there and growing fast.

Maybe your conversions sucked because you didn't take the time to market the Hustler brand the right way. I don't know.

As for your flat out false accusation of shaving. Total Bullshit. Prove it. Do 100 random test sign-ups on random accounts. See if even 1 sale does not make it thru.

We get sick traffic from very high quality sites and it converts like mad. Why? Because we have superior content and customers TRUST the Hustler brand name.

As for us fading away. What rock have you been hiding under?
FlyntDigital has more than doubled revenue every year for the past several years. We're one of the few online adult companies that is still growing fast, even during these hard times

LFP's aggressive growth in the Video business is providing us with a never ending supply of VERY high quality content that most companies simply can't afford to compete with.

Why can FlyntDigital pay $40 per join (even to little guys)? Because our trial/conversions and retention rates are WAY above normal due to premium content and customer loyalty. We have affiliates on our 70% recurring program who pull in huge checks because of our amazing trial conversions/retention.

WE might not be for everyone, but Hustler and company are here to stay. You can count on that.....

all I can say is that we promote all of the Hustler programs, and over all convert at around 1:80 with some converting at 1:5 and 1:15 consistently.

no complaints from me, that is for sure :thumbsup

So when is FlyBucks opening up?

Ken shouldn't even have to reply to that comment.

Fly, are there any webmaster programs that you haven't attacked, including me? Do you even have traffic?

I know a bunch of people who promote Hustler the right way, and are cleaning up.

Personally, this shows that Hustler is very serious about webmaster business. They are hardly going to invest in webmaster relationships if the webmasters are not going to profit from it, that's why we've seen other programs evaporate. They are no Fly by night, I've seen and heard of some of their upcoming stuff and it looks awesome and is able to compete with anyone conversion-wise.

Register now, http://www.webmasteraccess.com

Get on the Hustler Party VIP list here: http://www.flyntdigital.com/

Fly,

After I got hired with Webquest I've been sending more and more traffic over here every month.

Right now I'm kicking ass with Cashquest2 big time and doing really well with FlyntDigital promoting Hustler.com.

I've got under 1/50 with both. This is all with SE traffic going for the BRAND NAME search terms. The people here that know me, know I don't bullshit and blow smoke.

Fly, what kind of traffic were you sending? TGP? That might explain your conversions. Try targeting our name brands more and you'll see better results.

is there somewhere special to signup to get on the VIP list if already an affiliate?

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Thanks Lens...now he's wasted both of our time ;)

You're one of the few that is also looking long term and doing biz the right way. It's obvioius by the launch of your low priced programs, webmaster shows, etc.

It will be interesting to see who is left standing this time next year! I know Hustler and Adult.com will be there!

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Nice stats baddog! You gonna make it to our party?

unless you have armed guards outside to keep me out . . . . . is there somewhere special that affiliates should go to get on that VIP list, or do I just bring a check stub? :winkwink:

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I'm not sure how we're working that. Any idea lens?

Just to be safe shoot me an e-mail with your contact info and I'll make sure you're on the list :)

[email protected]

See you there!

We have a plan. "very secret"

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:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

you have mail :thumbsup

TheFly is just a washed up webmaster who failed at peddling smut so he converted his site a "webmaster success" site. Some success he is.


I feel sorry for the webmasters that got ripped off with his "17,000-word information document ."

What a fucking joke.

** IMPORTANT NOTE FOR HUSTLER EXPERIENCE ATTENDEES **

Hey folks -
If you want to get on the Hustler Experience VIP list, please drop an email to [email protected] with your contact information. It'll get to me, and I'll make sure you get hooked up... :thumbsup

If you're already a FlyntDigital affiliate, please also include your handle/affiliate ID. If you're not a FlyntDigital affiliate... well, you're missing out on some serious ca$h <g>, but we'd still love to buy you a drink if you're coming to WebmasterAccess LA. Look forward to seeing y'all there!

Baddog, you don't really think we'd leave *you* off the VIP list, do ya?!

After the great pix you took for everyone at the Rainbow/Roxy for Kimmy/Aly's birthday, you're made with us, brudda! :thumbsup

I feel so special :thumbsup

You guys should try a new campaign -- buy a porno mag and get a free time capsule so your kids can see what porn was like in the good ol' days. :1orglaugh

I live under a rock... Show me some big sites that are posting free Hustler and Playboy movies...

I just know what I see being advertised when I surf the big sites -- I don't see any free movies with the Playboy or Hustler logo -- I see Cumfiesta, Bangbros, DeluxePass, Homegrown... need I go on? -- Playboy.com has been around probably since the beginning -- 8 years later and now they need Lensman for traffic but no Playmates sent to Internext... LOL I wonder why? We wouldn't want the Playmates to have their own websites... that would be bad for biz, right? Where are the big-name Hustler models? Did I miss them somewhere? Last I heard Penthouse was being evicted... On top of that you have P2P and TGP and MPG and amateur sites taking a big slice of the pie... not to mention interactive cam technology that I don't see the "big boys" using yet.... Wow and now Acacia -- the last hope to put the genie back in the bottle :1orglaugh

And I'm the only guy that has noticed. Please tell me I'm wrong so I can sleep better.

You have to keep a perspective. The Fuck Larry Flynt posts were good for getting sigs online but hey, that was yesterday. Today there's free drinks...

Ok I'm re-reading my post here -- I shouldn't have said "shaved" -- that was stupid... I should have said that I couldn't convert it -- big difference... My apologies.

Anyway, I don't really care about Hustler's association with Acacia... that wasn't really my point... I'm more interested in the future of these big name-brands and the affect of the Internet on pop-culture -- I suppose this is not the place for intelligent theoretical discussion... Can you blame me for wanting to see the Internet FINALLY go mainstream? When I see MILFHunter graffiti in the public library -- that makes me happy... That's my agenda -- I want to see some homebrew internet companies get some street credit because we fucking deserve it and the time is coming IMHO.

The Fly,

what in the hell are you talking about?


You need to chill a bit man..

You ok?

Yeah I'm just watching TV eating veggies... looks like the thread died. Blame Deeprub -- he started it :1orglaugh

Looking forward to partying with the Adult.com crew, it's been a while. :thumbsup

SixNine

Damn...

I really hope I can make this one, but the wife is already giving me shit becasue we have so much family coming in for Thanks giving for our new house..

Im not whipped or anything so Ill see what I can do...

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Pete, you are hanging by a thread dude.
go for a walk.

What's the problem?

Deeprub my ass lol

I just ask a question...at first I thought this Ken was full of shit PR dude :1orglaugh

But he did a pretty dang good job...looks like everyone is happy again.

Sounds like it!

i would really like to see a webmaster tour bus like we all did in montreal

swat - woops - sorry - I killed the fly.

i posted lens's stuff. and I dont' post ANYONE.


it sold like gangbusters...... I was impressed, and I don't impress easily

I never said it didn't -- did you even read my post? I've never surfed your site... does PlayboyPlus give out free sample movies or just pics?