Crazy Thought about Acacia - GoFuckYourself.com

HS-Trixxxia · 10-24-2003, 07:47 AM

Ok......so some of you will think I'm nuts, but from what I understand, whoever settled is paying a percentage of 'All' their sales, right? Whether it be 100% movies or 25%movies & 75% pictures.......

How much would it cost a paysite owner or paysite owners to make one entrance for their pics/stories/chat & whatever else they may offer, and one entrance for all that + movies?

The advantages are that:
1) you don't have to pay for the customers that are there for pics only (don't have fast enough connections to download movies)
2) you remove any liability from the affiliates that don't want to be implicated in this bullshit extortion
3) perhaps charge an extra amount for the movies portion of the site and a little less on the pictures & whatever else portion of the site.

Does this sound retarded?

SpaceAce · 10-24-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by Trixxxia
Ok......so some of you will think I'm nuts, but from what I understand, whoever settled is paying a percentage of 'All' their sales, right? Whether it be 100% movies or 25%movies & 75% pictures.......

How much would it cost a paysite owner or paysite owners to make one entrance for their pics/stories/chat & whatever else they may offer, and one entrance for all that + movies?

The advantages are that:
1) you don't have to pay for the customers that are there for pics only (don't have fast enough connections to download movies)
2) you remove any liability from the affiliates that don't want to be implicated in this bullshit extortion
3) perhaps charge an extra amount for the movies portion of the site and a little less on the pictures & whatever else portion of the site.

Does this sound retarded?

Unless it's two completely different sites, you will owe for everyone. Seperate entrances don't mean anything.

SpaceAce

HS-Trixxxia · 10-24-2003, 07:57 AM

Why if one strictly does not stream any movies and the surfer is not buying that package?

Maybe they should be on different boxes or considered (lite) but if I'm not buying the movie package & you're not charging me the movie package (obviously because there is no access to movies) then what are you supposed to give them?

In my experience with royalties - we used to have many different ones and they weren't getting a percentage on all sales, just on what pertains to their 'product' .........

Like I said it may be retarded, but I think it's a way to go around it - legally while a judgement is made in court.

Also, if the judges decide this is insane (probably when it reaches the big mainstream guys) do Hustler, Vivid & the rest get any money back? ;-)

HS-Trixxxia · 10-24-2003, 10:07 AM

So you all think this doesn't make sense?

rooster · 10-24-2003, 10:09 AM

too confusing, but one thing you have to remember, everyone that settled so far didnt do some 2% deal, it was a sweetheart deal probably for a fixed amount, etc. Nobody has signed a non-sweet deal yet.

Honeyslut · 10-24-2003, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Trixxxia
So you all think this doesn't make sense?

I thought of it awhile ago. Put on the videos on one site and charge a very small upsell fee if they wanted access.

GFED · 10-24-2003, 10:26 AM

Sorta related: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=189303

they're only charging colleges for gross of certain classes...

HS-Trixxxia · 10-24-2003, 10:28 AM

They shouldn't be able to charge you for something that people aren't paying you to do, right.

Maybe the costs involved would probably be greater, but it's something to look into if all of this becomes the norm. It'll probably be a way to work around it.

If there's an upsell - your affiliate can get credit for it - but they aren't promoting it.

Got to get this checked by a lawyer but let's say, I'm promoting a site:

anydomainlite.com (pictures only)
and the surfer then decides they want the option of
anydomain.com (pictures&movies) what the implications are for a webmaster/affiliate.

We're promoting the picture site - so the commissions coming from the movies portion can be charged - but not all our sales.

If in fact, they win in court and this will be the norm in paying them any rights, there has to be a way to work so they don't get a chunk of everyones business when it only represents a portion of it........

Maybe I should get another coffee.....

10-24-2003, 07:47 AM	#1
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Crazy Thought about Acacia Ok......so some of you will think I'm nuts, but from what I understand, whoever settled is paying a percentage of 'All' their sales, right? Whether it be 100% movies or 25%movies & 75% pictures....... How much would it cost a paysite owner or paysite owners to make one entrance for their pics/stories/chat & whatever else they may offer, and one entrance for all that + movies? The advantages are that: 1) you don't have to pay for the customers that are there for pics only (don't have fast enough connections to download movies) 2) you remove any liability from the affiliates that don't want to be implicated in this bullshit extortion 3) perhaps charge an extra amount for the movies portion of the site and a little less on the pictures & whatever else portion of the site. Does this sound retarded?

10-24-2003, 10:26 AM	#7
GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,120	Sorta related: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=189303 they're only charging colleges for gross of certain classes... __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

10-24-2003, 07:57 AM	#3
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	Why if one strictly does not stream any movies and the surfer is not buying that package? Maybe they should be on different boxes or considered (lite) but if I'm not buying the movie package & you're not charging me the movie package (obviously because there is no access to movies) then what are you supposed to give them? In my experience with royalties - we used to have many different ones and they weren't getting a percentage on all sales, just on what pertains to their 'product' ......... Like I said it may be retarded, but I think it's a way to go around it - legally while a judgement is made in court. Also, if the judges decide this is insane (probably when it reaches the big mainstream guys) do Hustler, Vivid & the rest get any money back? ;-)

10-24-2003, 10:07 AM	#4
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	So you all think this doesn't make sense?

10-24-2003, 10:09 AM	#5
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	too confusing, but one thing you have to remember, everyone that settled so far didnt do some 2% deal, it was a sweetheart deal probably for a fixed amount, etc. Nobody has signed a non-sweet deal yet.

10-24-2003, 10:28 AM	#8
HS-Trixxxia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 2,946	They shouldn't be able to charge you for something that people aren't paying you to do, right. Maybe the costs involved would probably be greater, but it's something to look into if all of this becomes the norm. It'll probably be a way to work around it. If there's an upsell - your affiliate can get credit for it - but they aren't promoting it. Got to get this checked by a lawyer but let's say, I'm promoting a site: anydomainlite.com (pictures only) and the surfer then decides they want the option of anydomain.com (pictures&movies) what the implications are for a webmaster/affiliate. We're promoting the picture site - so the commissions coming from the movies portion can be charged - but not all our sales. If in fact, they win in court and this will be the norm in paying them any rights, there has to be a way to work so they don't get a chunk of everyones business when it only represents a portion of it........ Maybe I should get another coffee.....