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Old 08-19-2003, 09:52 PM   #51
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Old 08-19-2003, 09:55 PM   #52
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I will give you a test right now! Hit me on icq and lets see what you can do! Send me 10k to Brittany Blu and lets see what it does. If it is as good as you claim... I will be buyng some serious traffic to 8 sites over the next two months.

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Old 08-19-2003, 10:04 PM   #53
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Dido...
dido? was that supposed to be ditto or dildo?
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Old 08-20-2003, 06:30 AM   #54
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Currently we're sending US and UK traffic only on targeted packages. Approximate split: US 90% UK 10%.

AVN's legal team??? Why? I never said they endorse our traffic, only that we had been featured on there. Only an idiot would believe that AVN endorses *any* traffic seller. It may be nothing to you to get listed on AVN, but we're really proud of it. I don't know where you're from, but on my planet it is acceptable to state that your company was listed on a website. WTF's up with *that*?

And again, our traffic doesn't need to be 'tested'. It's already been field-tested by myself and several hundred customers so far. I only posted our URL on this particular thread yesterday, but our site has been online and making money for a couple of months now.

And again, no one has to buy our traffic. If "Joe Public" over at "Traffic R Us" is giving away traffic, go see him instead. We don't need a 'test' for our traffic; we already know it's good. As far as this crap about giving away traffic, it's not something we will be doing...it's not necessary, and regardless of the shitload of flames I'll get for this, I don't think it's good business for the following reason:

If someone gives you a free 10K and it converts like crazy, then you get allll excited and order 100K from them....how do you even know the 100K you bought is going to be the same traffic? You don't. So what's the point?

My point is, that we're not obligated to follow any protocol but our own. Hell, I could easily give everyone in this thread 10K, but it wouldn't prove anything except that I gave them 10K of good traffic. Any savvy webmaster would know that it may or may not be the same traffic they would get if they actually bought it.

We're still just going to stick to the way we've been doing business. We have excellent traffic, we promote it, people buy it, and we deliver it.
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Old 08-20-2003, 06:45 AM   #55
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so if some big player wants to test a quick 100K before making some huge deal with you, you say no?
Ok, then I don't want your traffic
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Old 08-20-2003, 07:05 AM   #56
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A "big player" can pay for his traffic, and doesn't need to scheme or beg for it. Our 100K packages are about $600: if a webmaster can't take a $600 risk, they're not a "big player" yet....but why would they need 100K to test it anyway? 10K at $70 would make more sense.

I don't give a fuck if The Hun emails me and asks for free traffic, I'll laugh in his face, (we couldn't sell him traffic anyway, now that he's sold out with the popups). We don't operate by ass-kissing and good ol' boy bullshit.

If you want 100K of free traffic, then we don't want your business. We sell traffic: you want it free. Therefore, I don't think it would work out very well.
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:02 PM   #57
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Ok lets see what you can do...

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$70 bucks is a drop in the bucket if you can produce. If you do I'll post here, If not I will also post here also for everyone else to see.

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Old 08-20-2003, 03:10 PM   #58
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I don't give a fuck if The Hun emails me and asks for free traffic, I'll laugh in his face, (we couldn't sell him traffic anyway, now that he's sold out with the popups). We don't operate by ass-kissing and good ol' boy bullshit.
This caught my eye. Does thehun really have popups, or do you have a virus on your machine?

I loaded up thehun a few minutes ago (just got my first listing today ) and I didn't see any popups.
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Old 08-20-2003, 03:28 PM   #59
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This caught my eye. Does thehun really have popups, or do you have a virus on your machine?
He must have a virus - TheHun is a popup free zone
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Old 08-21-2003, 06:10 AM   #60
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Yeah, it was a nasty little piece of search-redirect spyware causing that. My bad, Hun.

To clarify, The Hun is NOT using popups. But, I still don't give a fuck if he emailed me asking for free traffic
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Old 08-21-2003, 06:47 AM   #61
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ok geohuck... I will give you a shot for UK traffic only, you do have IP detection (geo) right? If not I have a mini-ip-detection based on java... Lets test say 200k which is what? $1200? Let me know where I can wire the funds...

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Old 08-21-2003, 07:08 AM   #62
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Jakki,

Yes, we have UK-Only geo-targeted by IP.

Tried to ICQ you: left a message for you. If for some reason you don't get it, email me at [email protected] and we'll work out the details.
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Old 08-21-2003, 07:16 AM   #63
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Loos like a pure SPAM thread.

You can also go here!

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Well, if everyone is spamming, then what the fuck;

http://www.fpctraffic2.com/buy.html

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Well, this thread *did* start out as one innocent little spam post, but it rapidly escalated into some kind of traffic-seller-bashing session. I think I held my own pretty well, though. At least there wasn't a sex.com thread-jumper in on this one.

I think those guys are running a bot to detect posts on all the adult forums with the word 'traffic' in them...can't prove it, but there they are, stalking traffic brokers who post and replying with dumb shit, like this classic from some jerkazoid calling himself 'trafficlown':

THATS A PREETY BOLD STATEMENT. YOU BETTER BE PREPARED TO BACK THAT UP.

He followed me from board to board for two days posting that misspelled all-caps bullshit.

And then this morning, some bitch (I assume) that's associated with them started doing it, too. Fuck Sex.com's generic bullshit, and fuck their stupid, brainless lap dogs.

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Old 08-21-2003, 09:33 AM   #66
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Hey GeoHuck,

Dont get too cocky, nothing wrong with sex.com, they happend to BE a partner/friend of goodthinxx.com and karen (if it is her) is not a fucking bitch.

You just lost the test of $1200 that I was just about to wire to you.

I wanted to give you a chance to play with the big boys, but with that kind of language, you will get nowhere. I was a potentail $100-200,000 per month client, now go back to the playground and see if you can get people to by 10k from you... Fucking kid...
I made a first order of 200k and that was just the initial test...

think small and you will stay small....



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Old 08-21-2003, 09:52 AM   #67
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Hey GeoHuck,

Dont get too cocky, nothing wrong with sex.com, they happend to BE a partner/friend of goodthinxx.com and karen (if it is her) is not a fucking bitch.

You just lost the test of $1200 that I was just about to wire to you.

I wanted to give you a chance to play with the big boys, but with that kind of language, you will get nowhere. I was a potentail $100-200,000 per month client, now go back to the playground and see if you can get people to by 10k from you... Fucking kid...
I made a first order of 200k and that was just the initial test...

think small and you will stay small....



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Old 08-21-2003, 10:24 AM   #68
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Jakki,


That's 100% fine with me. Keep your $1200. Like I said before, I don't kiss ass, won't kiss ass, and that ANY organization that resorts to thread-stalking must be desperate, stupid, or both.

These people not only try to intimidate other traffic sellers, (NOT working with us BTW), they spammed my email three different times trying to get me to send traffic to THEM. LMAO!

Your $1200 won't make or break us. Sorry you chose to side with those people, but it's your loss, not ours. You seem to be under the impression that we need to build our business, and that your order would be the equivalent of hittting the lottery for us. Our business IS growing, WILL grow, and will OUTLAST any organization that resorts to ignorant and childish tactics to get customers...and we can even spell. And 10K packages now make up the minority of our sales, BTW.

Seems to me that "kid" would better describe persons who resort to those tactics. And "thinking small" would, again, better describe people who resort to those types of tactics. We're not 'playing' with anyone. We don't consider this a game, that's why we don't 'play' all day by making quick, short, put-down posts about anyone who may be our competitor, everywhere we can find them.

Sex.com uses thread-jumpers. We don't: we play fair, and will continue to do so. I knew when I posted that, that it would ignite a flame war, but, the truth is the truth. Fuck $1200, the truth is worth much more to us. If you are 'loyal' to Sex.com, then we don't want your business anyway.
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Old 08-21-2003, 10:34 AM   #69
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That's 100% fine with me. Keep your $1200. Like I said before, I don't kiss ass, won't kiss ass, and that ANY organization that resorts to thread-stalking must be desperate, stupid, or both.

These people not only try to intimidate other traffic sellers, (NOT working with us BTW), they spammed my email three different times trying to get me to send traffic to THEM. LMAO!

Your $1200 won't make or break us. Sorry you chose to side with those people, but it's your loss, not ours. You seem to be under the impression that we need to build our business, and that your order would be the equivalent of hittting the lottery for us. Our business IS growing, WILL grow, and will OUTLAST any organization that resorts to ignorant and childish tactics to get customers...and we can even spell. And 10K packages now make up the minority of our sales, BTW.

Seems to me that "kid" would better describe persons who resort to those tactics. And "thinking small" would, again, better describe people who resort to those types of tactics. We're not 'playing' with anyone. We don't consider this a game, that's why we don't 'play' all day by making quick, short, put-down posts about anyone who may be our competitor, everywhere we can find them.

Sex.com uses thread-jumpers. We don't: we play fair, and will continue to do so. I knew when I posted that, that it would ignite a flame war, but, the truth is the truth. Fuck $1200, the truth is worth much more to us. If you are 'loyal' to Sex.com, then we don't want your business anyway.
Jakki is just a sex.com cronie. Fuck him. Any "big" player as he claims to be, would not let anything someone says about Gary's spamming staff interfere with making them money. This guy is just a ass kisser. I like your attitude Geohuck
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Old 08-21-2003, 11:06 AM   #70
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Choker,

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought: in fact, who knows, it could have been that he was trying to buy our traffic to SEND to a Sex.com site...and I sure as hell don't want those fuckheads getting one ping off of us.

FUCK SEX.COM

^Let's see if their bots pick that up^

Seriously, though, it IS his loss. I laughed my ass off when he came back and made his big statement about his $1200. Hell, the fact that he made such a big deal about $1200 tells you he's not a 'big player'.

We're going to continue doing what we've been doing: advertise our site, sell traffic to our customers, and deliver quality traffic that converts. If some dumbass is loyal to Sex.com, and that keeps them from buying our traffic, so be it. But, here's my question: if the guy is so 'tight' with the Sex.com staff, why was he even talking to me about buying traffic? Unless their traffic...no, that COULDN'T be.

Things that make you go 'hmmmmmm'......

BTW, thanks for the backup, homie. I owe you one.
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Old 08-21-2003, 11:07 AM   #71
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I like your attitude Geohuck
I'd like to second that


Talk is talk and biz is biz.


Too bad you ain't selling german traffic,otherwise I'd give ya a shot,too...

Maybe sometime later,as I told someone else to test his german traffic for us first,and I stand by my word


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Hey Joker,

We've got some German traffic, if you're willing to do a test. Hit me [email protected] or ICQ 143720824
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Old 08-21-2003, 11:25 AM   #73
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JokerEmpire,

We sell ALL traffic: IP targeted, any country/countries, (except China of course). We just haven't had time yet to list everything we have on our site. You can email us at [email protected] later on if you need any traffic in the future.

Thanks for the thumbs-up, man. It's the only attitude I got. You and Choker are both dead-on target, if someone lets a TRUE statement keep them from buying traffic, then "fuck 'em up against the wall with handcuffs on", like Bernie Mac said in the classic motion picture 'House Party III'.

LMAO
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I must admit that, despite my natural cynicism, I would have given you a try if you had any US dating or possibly webcam type traffic. Unfortunately I think that 'paysite' is too broad (or it is for me) - they could be looking for anything.

I'd also have to admit that I wouldn't have been testing $1200 worth - I'm not in that league
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Actually the Real Big Players NEVER post anything about their businesses on any public boards........
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completetosser,

We're trying to get our categories more 'niched-out', it's just taking time because we've been *extremely* busy.

Several of our clients have bought our Paysite traffic for sites such as those you're referring to, (dating/webcam), and have had good conversions, but I understand your caution, and I'm not going to say "give us a try anyway", that's your call and yours alone.

As far as the amount of traffic anyone orders from us, we treat ALL customers exactly the same. It doesn't matter if you order 10K or 1000K.
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Yeah.. a waste of a post and thread.

We have a huge site launching this week and we are spending about 5k on new traffic to launch it. He wont do a test, he only has paypal which is fine if you have it. No other way to pay except western union. I was even willing to buy the test... but I cant even do that.

I really wanted to give this guy a try. Choker gave us a ton of free paysite test traffic. I guess I am going there.
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Sex.com's thread-jumpers LIVE on the boards, and they post their email addie, ICQ number and URL in every single post. Guess that means they're not 'big players'.
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PerfectionGirls,

Choker is a good guy. Nothing wrong with taking him up on his offer. We just do business differently, that's all.

But, we also offer direct wire transfer to our business account. And I may be wrong, but I don't think you are required to sign up for a PayPal account to buy from a PayPal merchant.

Anyway, best of luck with your site!
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How quickly could you deliver:
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That's a 30 day unique package: if you want 'X' amount per day, it will cost more. You have email.
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Hey GeoHuck,

I will buy/test traffic from anybody as long as they are nice.

You seemed to be pretty fair and hornest until you started to complain about sex.com. I wanted to give you a shot at our business coz I believe that you have good traffic and that it could have worked out.

I will buy as much converting traffic as I can get my hands on, thats my business... I am buying from google, overture, lycos, sex.com, searchboxxx etc.

All I am hearing from your end is like this little grocery store who complains about the big supermarket around the corner. Yes you see them everywhere and that can be annoying, but thats business. Have you been watching: "you got mail" too many times, woman? Stop bitching and start pitching, everybody needs more clients, thats how you grow your business...

Do you see me/us complaining/bithcing about NoCreditCard or ProfitPlantation... no... We are competition, but we are also all friends and we all do business together...
Why dont you make an ally of sex.com and start benefitting from them rarther than fighting them?

Come to some of the shows and you will see... I am sure if you and I had a chat in personal, we would be able to work out a business model which would benefit both of us.

Anyway, have a nice weekend.

Cheers, Jakki

PS. If you have time I will invite you to our show in berlin in oct. entry ticket is on me...
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Old 08-22-2003, 08:15 AM   #84
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Jakki,

No, I'm sorry, but you're wrong about me. Far from the little grocery store around the corner, we are growing at a rate that amazes even me. We're all over Google, and we're aggressively advertising our business in every way possible: but we don't resort to the types of tactics that the people at sex.com choose to employ.

I wasn't 'whining' about sex.com because I'm 'jealous' of them, if that's what you're saying. All I did was state facts that are commonly known already about certain methods they use that, for lack of a better term, 'just aren't cool'.

We're working on our own business and using honest, time-proven business principles to further our company. I won't be posting screenshots of bank statements, etc. on here, as that would be ridiculous, but suffice it to say that we aren't hurting for business...not at all. I'll admit, I don't personally know any of the people at sex.com, but when I've seen the way they try to intimidate other traffic sellers on the boards, and saw their snide put-downs behind many posts I've made, (and many other traffic sellers will attest to this being done to them as well), I'm sorry, but I don't think they would be my kind of people. The future of our business doesn't rely on networking with the people at sex.com, in other words. If sex.com changes hands, and a difference is seen in the way they conduct themselves, maybe then we will work with them in some capacity.

So, we're not the jealous little kid who wants to beat up the big kid. We're the determined little kid who will patiently and systematically continue to succeed, 'big kid' be damned. Competition-wise, they are not a concern to us.

As a couple of other people mentioned on this thread, "talk is talk, and biz is biz". If you wanted to make more money with your sites, you wouldn't back out of buying traffic from someone because they 'said' something about 'someone'. That's childish, grade-school behavior on YOUR part, yet you called ME a 'fucking kid'. What does any of that even have to do with traffic, or with business? And also, as I mentioned, if you are so 'tight' with the people at sex.com, and their traffic is so wonderful......why were you even talking to me about buying traffic in the first place?

Seems to me that would be a slap in the face to your friends at sex.com. So who insulted sex.com more yesterday: me, or you?

Maybe you'll say, "That was just business".

EXACTLY.
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Old 08-22-2003, 08:44 AM   #85
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GeoHuck,

Dispite us (goodthinxx) being a partner/friend of sex.com there is a maximum amount of traffic you/one can buy from them, just like with fx. google. If I send ?10 million to google a month I would not get all their traffic, I would be ranked no 1. on their bidding system and get more than others... If I send it all to you I might get all you have got... so there is a difference... So I do not offend nor do I insult sex.com by buying traffic from others..

Anyway, it seems we can go on forever... hehe...

I suggest we leave it at that... we both have work to do as well.

The invitation still stands by the way... Berlin would probably be a good place for you to promote your traffic to european webmasters and we can talk traffic as well on a face 2 face basis, if you want.

Cheers, Jakki
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Old 08-22-2003, 10:30 AM   #86
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I'll take the last word, since I started the thread. I've provided here for your perusal a re-arranged form of the shit you said to me earlier in this thread.

"Fucking kid....If you hadn't pissed around and fucked up any chance you would have ever had to buy traffic from me, I would have sent you quality traffic in any amount you wanted...."

Google alone does great for me.
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Old 08-22-2003, 10:40 AM   #87
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don't feel bad GeoHuck - people get VERY pissy on this board..
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