10sec viper vs Sleeper Civic? - GoFuckYourself.com

asuna · 04-08-2003, 09:27 PM

nice
http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/cheezevsal.mpg
Anyone ever hear of this guy?

drunkdollars · 04-08-2003, 09:41 PM

Dam some of those little ricers can move. But how long do they last before you got to tear it all down

asuna · 04-08-2003, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars
Dam some of those little ricers can move. But how long do they last before you got to tear it all down

This car is quite the opposite, it's a sleeper, I had soem pics of it, no stickers, fart pipes or anything, just springs and mags, and hella mods... lemme try to find em

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 09:42 PM

I don't care for import racers in general, but my preference has always been sleeper cars. It's a lot more kickass if you dust someone who thinks they had it in the bag. If someone rolls up next to you in your Ferrari or modded Corvette, they have some idea what's coming. With a low-profile streeter you can have a lot more fun.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 09:44 PM

Is it just me or did that guy's car sound like it was doing about 18,000 RPMs?

SpaceAce

psyko514 · 04-08-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
I don't care for import racers in general, but my preference has always been sleeper cars. It's a lot more kickass if you dust someone who thinks they had it in the bag. If someone rolls up next to you in your Ferrari or modded Corvette, they have some idea what's coming. With a low-profile streeter you can have a lot more fun.

SpaceAce

how fast is that guy going?

iroc409 · 04-08-2003, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by drunkdollars
Dam some of those little ricers can move. But how long do they last before you got to tear it all down

nothing lasts very long with 11.5:1 compression, 30lbs of boost and 150hp of nitrous.

nothing 4-cylinder, anyways. even a good ol' american v8 would have troubles there.

asuna · 04-08-2003, 09:50 PM

I told ya it's a sleeper
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civicmeet_25.jpg">
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civic_01.jpg">
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/lsturbo_11.jpg">
the mods:
98 B18B swap
9.0:1 JE 81.5mm
crower rods
STR block guard
crower 402 cams
crower springs and retainers
GTP porting
rev hard cast manifold
STR intake
850cc injectors
ferrea comp valves
innovative T3 60-1 stage 5 turbine 4 bolt discharge
tial 40mm wastgate and BOV
AEM cam gears
Hondata 2b
clutchmasters stage 5
Jun chromoly flywheel
quaife LSD
MSD 6al, blaster ss coil
DMH performance 3 in Ecutout
factory honda DX exhaust
greddy profecb
Walbro 255 intank
AEM fuel rail and reg.

Vox · 04-08-2003, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce
Is it just me or did that guy's car sound like it was doing about 18,000 RPMs?

SpaceAce

He might have changed his stock motor for the Honda V tech, those suckers can rev up to 16 000 rpm

asuna · 04-08-2003, 09:54 PM

oh, and that loud fart sound, it was the viper, and he was prolly at like 7 or 8K rpm

p00p · 04-08-2003, 09:56 PM

What is so great about the Race?

asuna · 04-08-2003, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by p00p
What is so great about the Race?

you heard how hard the viper was reving the car, and the civic was keeping up... altho 8L V10 will alwasy beat modded I-4, but it kept up!

KRL · 04-08-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
I told ya it's a sleeper
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civicmeet_25.jpg">
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civic_01.jpg">
<img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/lsturbo_11.jpg">
the mods:
98 B18B swap
9.0:1 JE 81.5mm
crower rods
STR block guard
crower 402 cams
crower springs and retainers
GTP porting
rev hard cast manifold
STR intake
850cc injectors
ferrea comp valves
innovative T3 60-1 stage 5 turbine 4 bolt discharge
tial 40mm wastgate and BOV
AEM cam gears
Hondata 2b
clutchmasters stage 5
Jun chromoly flywheel
quaife LSD
MSD 6al, blaster ss coil
DMH performance 3 in Ecutout
factory honda DX exhaust
greddy profecb
Walbro 255 intank
AEM fuel rail and reg.

Fuck I'm getting old. Will this translate into English if I run it through Googles translator page?

xxxcam · 04-08-2003, 10:03 PM

damn nice

psyko514 · 04-08-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Fuck I'm getting old. Will this translate into English if I run it through Googles translator page?

nothing to do with age... i'm 20 and i dunno what it all means. all i know is that there are some pretty colored things under the car.

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by asuna

you heard how hard the viper was reving the car, and the civic was keeping up... altho 8L V10 will alwasy beat modded I-4, but it kept up!

You should get that ricer to post timeslips. And the Viper. A stock GTS does about mid-low 12 second 1/4's. Something is wrong if a modded ricer can keep up with a 10 second viper for 3 seconds.

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by asuna

altho 8L V10 will alwasy beat modded I-4, but it kept up!

That's not really true. It's like the saying goes: Speed costs money. How fast do you want to spend?

If we're talking about a situation where everyone has unlimited money, the V10 platform will win out, but that's not really how it goes.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

You should get that ricer to post timeslips. And the Viper. A stock GTS does about mid-low 12 second 1/4's. Something is wrong if a modded ricer can keep up with a 10 second viper for 3 seconds.

Why, what's wrong? 10-second Japmobiles are not unheard of.

SpaceAce

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce

Why, what's wrong? 10-second Japmobiles are not unheard of.

SpaceAce

So you are saying, by that 7 second race you saw, that the Honda is a 10 second car?

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
I don't care for import racers in general, but my preference has always been sleeper cars. It's a lot more kickass if you dust someone who thinks they had it in the bag. If someone rolls up next to you in your Ferrari or modded Corvette, they have some idea what's coming. With a low-profile streeter you can have a lot more fun.

SpaceAce

I think the turbo spooling and the BOV would be an indication it was not a sleeper?

drunkdollars · 04-08-2003, 10:15 PM

I have seen a civic go 10 but it had slicks on.
I dont think it can go 10 with street tires

asuna · 04-08-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkdollars
I have seen a civic go 10 but it had slicks on.
I dont think it can go 10 with street tires

I got a clip of a Plymouth Reliant going 10@130...

asuna · 04-08-2003, 10:18 PM

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/...iant_short.mpg

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

So you are saying, by that 7 second race you saw, that the Honda is a 10 second car?

Read my post. Is that what I said? Does your sentence match mine?

Are you saying from that 7 second clip that that Civic is NOT a 10-second car?

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

I think the turbo spooling and the BOV would be an indication it was not a sleeper?

I said what I said about sleepers from my own preference. I hadn't even watched the clip, yet. I also said I don't care for import race cars in general.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/...iant_short.mpg

Damn, that wasn't even fair.

SpaceAce

04-08-2003, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/...iant_short.mpg

shit, was that like a 7 second run?

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/video/...iant_short.mpg

That is fukkin' funny.

Man, that car takes off like a rocket.

chupacabra · 04-08-2003, 10:30 PM

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Something is wrong if a modded ricer can keep up with a 10 second viper for 3 seconds.

mmm... i've seen many modded FD3S effini's (third-gen RX-7's) tear holes through vipers and vettes at the track... power to weight, thats all that matters..

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce

I also said I don't care for import race cars in general.

SpaceAce

Good. We are still friends.

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra

mmm... i've seen many modded FD3S effini's (third-gen RX-7's) tear holes through vipers and vettes at the track... power to weight, thats all that matters..

Power-to-weight is the ultimate factor, but a lighter car can have a harder time getting traction. Two cars with the same power-to-weight ratio won't finish together down to the 100th of a second, either. Driver reaction time, traction, gearing, where the power develops on the torque curve; those are all very important.

SpaceAce

Living For Today · 04-08-2003, 10:34 PM

that was fucken sweet kickin da supra

psyko514 · 04-08-2003, 10:34 PM

Vrooooooooooooooom!

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Good. We are still friends.

Haha, I see. That was just general anti-rice hostility

No, I don't care for them, myself. I like cars like the Oldsmobile 442, old Corvettes, Camaro SS's, old Malibus, etc. A fast car is a fast car, though, and with enough money those imports will lay down a trail of flaming rubber.

SpaceAce

yellofello · 04-08-2003, 10:35 PM

definitely doesnt mean that it's a 10 second civic, a FWD running that much boost is going to have a shitload of wheelspin off the line, that's why they'll do runs from a roll instead. you're probably looking at 1/4 mile times around 12-flat for that car

i've seen a bunch of other vids from other civics from the 'cheeze' crew and they're all the same... running 16+ psi of boost at a lower compression ratio on strengthened internals and almost nothing else indicating that's what they have under the hood except for the intercooler

nice car, just won't be what everyone appreciates

Living For Today · 04-08-2003, 10:35 PM

what was taht car

asuna · 04-08-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
what was taht car

Wich one?

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yellofello
definitely doesnt mean that it's a 10 second civic, a FWD running that much boost is going to have a shitload of wheelspin off the line, that's why they'll do runs from a roll instead. you're probably looking at 1/4 mile times around 12-flat for that car

i've seen a bunch of other vids from other civics from the 'cheeze' crew and they're all the same... running 16+ psi of boost at a lower compression ratio on strengthened internals and almost nothing else indicating that's what they have under the hood except for the intercooler

nice car, just won't be what everyone appreciates

Not that 12 seconds is exactly slow.

I used to have bookmark to a page about this guy's modified Pontiac Grand Pris. He had owned and modded two of them, both into the 12's. It was pretty cool. Might have even been like 11.88. I can't remember, now. 11.88 or 12.88, I think one of those is right.

SpaceAce

Living For Today · 04-08-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by asuna

Wich one?

the one in the second vid with the supra

chupacabra · 04-08-2003, 10:41 PM

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Power-to-weight is the ultimate factor, but a lighter car can have a harder time getting traction.

this is true... lack of traction is the main enemy of the FD3S camp... but, staged fuel delivery can combat that on some levels (Haltech E6K, etc.), your right that it will take a higher power/weight ratio on the lighter cars..

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:45 PM

Check this one out. haha
And that car is street driven...
You might have to play it a second time if it is jerky the first. Hail Yahoo webhosting.
http://www.buickpower.com/Videos/9sec.mpg

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce

Haha, I see. That was just general anti-rice hostility

No, I don't care for them, myself. I like cars like the Oldsmobile 442, old Corvettes, Camaro SS's, old Malibus, etc. A fast car is a fast car, though, and with enough money those imports will lay down a trail of flaming rubber.

SpaceAce

Actually I didn't think that Honda was rice. I just don't see the big deal with a car with a Turbo and that many mods hanging with a Viper for a couple of seconds. And that is all it was, hanging and the Viper started pulling. Hard.

yellofello · 04-08-2003, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Not that 12 seconds is exactly slow.

not slow by any means. a lot of tracks won't even let you run without a rollbar/cage if you're into the 12s

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce

Are you saying from that 7 second clip that that Civic is NOT a 10-second car?

SpaceAce

Yes, I doubt it will even break 13's. Soooo, post a timeslip and prove me wrong.

asuna · 04-08-2003, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today

the one in the second vid with the supra

1985 Plymouth Reliant

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p00p

Yes, I doubt it will even break 13's. Soooo, post a timeslip and prove me wrong.

Obviously I don't have timeslips for someone else's car. The fact is you can't tell any more from that clip than I can. Maybe he wasn't pushing the car, maybe he had a compression problem, maybe he didn't engage all his nitrous stages, blah, blah, blah. I could just as easily say "Post a timeslip to prove it isn't a 10-second car" and that would be just as valid as your request for a timeslip.

For the record, look back at the post I made that started this. I never claimed to believe that was a 10-second car, anyway.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 04-08-2003, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by p00p
Check this one out. haha
And that car is street driven...
You might have to play it a second time if it is jerky the first. Hail Yahoo webhosting.
http://www.buickpower.com/Videos/9sec.mpg

Seems ot be completely broken.

SpaceAce

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:54 PM

Another cool one. Might have to play it a second time if the first time is jerky.
http://www.buickpower.com/Videos/gnsvsviper.mpg

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce

Seems ot be completely broken.

SpaceAce

Probably is. That dude is on Yahoo hosting and I had a hardtime pulling them up.
Here is the URL, if you like North American muscle there are some good ones here.
http://www.buickpower.com/buickvideos.htm

p00p · 04-08-2003, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra

mmm... i've seen many modded FD3S effini's (third-gen RX-7's) tear holes through vipers and vettes at the track... power to weight, thats all that matters..

What track? Any video? I don't doubt they could do it. Without a doubt. Then again, if you modded a Viper or a Vette....

04-08-2003, 09:27 PM	#1
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asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	I told ya it's a sleeper <img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civicmeet_25.jpg"> <img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/civic_01.jpg"> <img src="http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/lsturbo_11.jpg"> the mods: 98 B18B swap 9.0:1 JE 81.5mm crower rods STR block guard crower 402 cams crower springs and retainers GTP porting rev hard cast manifold STR intake 850cc injectors ferrea comp valves innovative T3 60-1 stage 5 turbine 4 bolt discharge tial 40mm wastgate and BOV AEM cam gears Hondata 2b clutchmasters stage 5 Jun chromoly flywheel quaife LSD MSD 6al, blaster ss coil DMH performance 3 in Ecutout factory honda DX exhaust greddy profecb Walbro 255 intank AEM fuel rail and reg. __________________

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asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	oh, and that loud fart sound, it was the viper, and he was prolly at like 7 or 8K rpm __________________

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SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I don't care for import racers in general, but my preference has always been sleeper cars. It's a lot more kickass if you dust someone who thinks they had it in the bag. If someone rolls up next to you in your Ferrari or modded Corvette, they have some idea what's coming. With a low-profile streeter you can have a lot more fun. SpaceAce

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SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	Is it just me or did that guy's car sound like it was doing about 18,000 RPMs? SpaceAce

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yellofello Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 183	definitely doesnt mean that it's a 10 second civic, a FWD running that much boost is going to have a shitload of wheelspin off the line, that's why they'll do runs from a roll instead. you're probably looking at 1/4 mile times around 12-flat for that car i've seen a bunch of other vids from other civics from the 'cheeze' crew and they're all the same... running 16+ psi of boost at a lower compression ratio on strengthened internals and almost nothing else indicating that's what they have under the hood except for the intercooler nice car, just won't be what everyone appreciates

04-08-2003, 10:45 PM	#41
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Check this one out. haha And that car is street driven... You might have to play it a second time if it is jerky the first. Hail Yahoo webhosting. http://www.buickpower.com/Videos/9sec.mpg __________________ ICQ: 316365783 <a href="http://www.hostultra.com/~p00p" target="_blank">TEST</a>

04-08-2003, 10:54 PM	#48
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Another cool one. Might have to play it a second time if the first time is jerky. http://www.buickpower.com/Videos/gnsvsviper.mpg __________________ ICQ: 316365783 <a href="http://www.hostultra.com/~p00p" target="_blank">TEST</a>