The analogy would only be relevant if the seat-belt was made in such a way that putting it on was more dangerous than being in a car crash.

You'd be amazed what statistical data is available online, Maths and Statistics was my original degree, it's been my interest to chop up statistics and see what I find

What on Earth are you on about? The Autism rate is rising, the vaccine schedule is ever increasing, whistle-blowers have admitted that the CDC have been covering up the vaccines/Autism data. :2 cents:

Mark, just because you are out of your depth on this topic does not mean people who disagree with you are out of their depth too. You have outsourced your thinking to others who you believe more capable, you've overlooked the fact that they have huge conflicts of interest, pharma is a for-profit industry, you have been naive and it's hard to admit to yourself that your lifelong trust of this system has been misplaced.

I hope you never have to witness vaccine damage first hand, but if you do it will be a wake-up call.

Big Pharma kill thousands every year, that's a known fact :2 cents:

Once upon a time I would have 'believed' the same too, based on the message that get propagated by Big Pharma and the mainstream media, however I took the matter into my own hands and did many years research reading through vaccine studies, nnow I know as a fact that we are better off without vaccines, the science is still weak and nobody dares to improve it, as it would be shooting themselves in the feet. :2 cents:

You successfully reduced the risk of vaccine damage, well done! :thumbsup

Correct, Merck vaccines for example have peanut oil, when they added this peanut allergies started appearing in the population.

Then we have to compare the risk against the benefit, unfortunately the theoretical benefit is not high enough to continue with the risk, unless vaccines can ever be improved.

Correct, and yes unfortunately the vaccines are causing serious complications, far more serious than mild childhood disease.

You are completely right, unfortunately there are too many people out there who believe vaccines are 100% safe.

I'm talking about how autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR vaccine. According to you and your studies they should have went down, no?

They switched to simultaneous single vaccines, of course Autism rates won't decrease, they would need to stop vaccinating with Measles, Mumps, Rubella altogether or at least space them out to see the Autism drop. :2 cents:

The odds of dying by a vaccination 1:1-2 per million (mostly in people with weakened immune systems).

A meta-analysis of ten studies involving more than 1.2 million children reaffirms that vaccines don?t cause autism. If anything, immunization was associated with decreased risk that children would develop autism, a possibility that?s strongest with the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine.


Highlights
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There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
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There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
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Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.

something that really is happening is our strange unnatural and abstracted society is detaching many many people from what had been traditionally called reality where they live in increasingly alienated and isolated self-referential worlds which they have pathologically confused with any sort of objective reality.

and i am talking about you and your buddies

get shot

life with jib.

Go and get your McVaccines

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Everything at McDonalds is healthy, we know that :upsidedow

They never track this, so we don't know the odds, but given that I know a number of people who have been left dead/disabled from vaccines then it doesn't look good. You wouldn't let your kid go on a rollercoaster with a 1 in 50 chance of Autism, so why risk an unneccessary vaccine?

1 in 50? You lie.

A meta-analysis of ten studies involving more than 1.2 million children reaffirms that vaccines don?t cause autism. If anything, immunization was associated with decreased risk that children would develop autism, a possibility that?s strongest with the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine.


Highlights
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There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
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There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
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Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.

The only hope for such a study would be the data in the VAERS reporting system, there is no other such data which would have any hope of having the necessary information, so they decide not to include it, obvious scam as always

of all the millions of ways humans suffer, of all the millions of ways humans hurt each other ...why this? why do you spend your time trying to promote this single "truth?"

serious question. why?

It's a crime against humanity, causing immeasurable suffering all around the world, the pharmaceuticals want us sick and on drugs for life, this is how they go about it

but of all the daily crimes against humanity why this one? have you ever thought why?

because this is the one that most people won't work out, they need help with the complexity of the scam

Wehateporn,

Pardon me for pointing out the obvious, but you are someone using a fake name, on a porn website, designating medical conspiracy theories from unknown people, calling it information, and trying to tell others not to trust their own doctors.

As I said earlier it's ok to talk about all the fun stuff (fake moon landings) you want, but somebody someday could read your messages and decide not to go to the doctor, which would put their lives in jeopardy. They could die because of something you said. They could fucking die. Do you really want that kind of responsibility?

I'm recommending you to take time and investigate, do the research for yourself, learn the history, become aware of the conflicts of interest, see for yourself if the game is rigged. It would be wrong for anyone to take my word for it. These presentations are an excellent place to start Speakers

It would be worth moving country over :2 cents:

why do you want to help them though? by researching and posting on the internet. that part i don't understand.

Firstly I don't like to see healthy kids being poisoned, if only someone had warned my family we could have avoided years of pain. From a selfish perspective it's important to get the word out so as there's enough resistance to prevent them ever forcing this issue and taking away our freedoms

Some What

a family member was harmed by vaccines?

Yep, big sister, muscle-wasting disease after anti-Tetanus, slow and sad decline, dead by age 21. Brother-in-law almost killed by a vaccine, doctors said no more vaccines for anyone in his family. Nextdoor neighbor disabled by travel vaccine, being kept alive by expensive drugs.

#stupidpeople

Damn.... what a story. That's just so....

I dunno...

Highly improbable and statistically impossible?

That's what they want you to think, problem is that most vaccine damage is not being highlighted as 'vaccine damage', it's being put down to random coincidence

Yes... the all powerful, omnipresent "they"

The same "they" that seeks to control you, your life and everything in it. "They" seek to control everything in the world... and only a few lucky readers of "news for the insane", have it all figured out. But the truth is, the thread that connects you and all similar thinking people is not your source of news. It's a misfiring brain.

There are people who's lives are dominated by that dark and all powerful "they". They are usually schizophrenic. Sometimes psychotic. But quite common in anxiety disorders as well.

And interestingly enough,... you let the cat out of the bag once again with this comment above:


Suddenly.... you shifted gears from a dire health concern and let slip that its an issue of "freedoms". Those two things are completely unrelated within the context of all the many health related arguments you've made. But its clearly something that is on your mind.

"Taking away our freedoms". "Controlling me", "Controlling us", "Controlling the world". The perceived lack of "freedom" being the single overarching theme in all your ranting. Always trying to stop "they" from controlling you directly or indirectly... and just with all the bullshit banking/Illuminati and everything else you post.. what is a vaccine? To you, its one more thing forced upon you, by "they". One more thing that empowers "they".

You need meds. You need therapy. Then there will be no more "they" peeking over your shoulder always wanting to be controlling you like a puppet.

I also strongly suspect that your aversion to meds and constant ranting about "big pharma" has more to do with the meds you've been forced to take as some part of treatment. Of course, you won't admit to being sick. Like Cam_girls, a schizophrenic personality, you'd likely say something like "the meds don't help when the voices are real" as he did.

whp's posts are a lot clearer now... revenge spurred on by a perceived sense of injustice has a powerful effect on the brain. With no specific person to blame and get a sense of closure from, the well-known 'they' enter the equation.

Surprisingly vague for someone who claimed in this very thread to have "two science degrees" and being an educator of doctors on immunology.

Interesting how someone can have many many years of education that is exactly about specificity, detail and fact and then when it comes to clearly defining the boogeyman and addressing the many many complexities of such a vast and global conspiracy, he gets super vague all of the sudden.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

2 science degrees and what does he have to show for it? A shitty porn blog and an Olympic pen operated out of mom's basement. Fail.

Well considering his very existence, his site, his persona "wehateporn" expresses his overriding tendency to go in the exact opposite direction of everyone and have it be known, i wouldn't expect him to find much success in anything other than an Alex Jones type website catering to similar lunatics. He can't possibly believe he's "educating" people when everyone is making fun of him every step of the way... he's just not intelligent enough to understand that there is a broad market for his lunacy and its not here.

Well to be fair, I read a lot of spiritual books/content, and look at a lot of that kind of stuff on the net, and the Dalai Lama has come to me to be educated on certain things more than once. I have 2 spiritual diplomas in staying calm, and putting myself in someone else's shoes, and it's been my interest to chop up ideas and spout them as fact. I totally believe whp, with his maths background, is taken seriously by the medical community as they receive their weekly intake of youtube videos and inside info passed from infowars.