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What the fuck? Not soldiers? At least every other army calls those soldiers. So your generals too are 27 or under? Or might there still be one or two contract servicemen? At least one of my army friends have served in Afghanistan as a soldier, and he did that after his initial military service, and he was contract servicemen as he made contract and got paid.

You have personnel those have made contract, those include training officers, pilots, and also more or less regular troops.

For example Roman legions were all contract servicemen, but maybe you don't count those as soldiers in there Russia. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

but, i highly doubt facebook / instagram, with huge connections to government funding, would be using the russian counterpart

what is interesting is wouldn't the person be using VK?

For a phone? LOL They can easily change it for a whole region. Furthemore, they can do it for the civilian devices only and keep it for the military ones. Man, are you sure you've been to army? I heard you are a former marine. What's your rank BTW?

Who told you such a bullshit? Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

Hint: you should ask: "Why Russia does not produce its own iPhones or whatethe that guy has used to make a selfie".

So is it my problem or yours, then? :)

Which ones? I'm so excited to see the list :)

There are no separatists in Russia. Man, please read the definition of separatisn and don't post this nonsense anymore. Don't give a reason to laugh at you.

Russia? LOL :1orglaugh Are you sure??? :winkwink:

In Russian military rank system, soldiers are those that are NOT officers and NOT service staff. Go figure :winkwink:

So what the other guys with the same uniforms and guns are called as? Civilians? :)

And officers are soldiers. You can call them as a pink elefants if I care, but the rest of the world calls soldiers as soldiers.

Turkish send Troops into Syria not many months ago, to prevent refugees to cross the border in large numbers. So saying this dont happen is simply wrong.



You are aware USA have CIA and military personal stationed and training in the Ukraine - right? And you do know that CIA trains "friends of the US" there as well? as in "private militia" and not only Ukraine troops

http://rt.com/usa/158268-cia-brennan-ukraine-visit/

For example. I'm not a soldier. I'm an officer (lieutenant) of Russian Army. So even in recruitment office we have two departments: one for soldiers and another for officers. As a continuation of my education series here, I'll tell you another secret. The regular soldiers don't get paid for their service in the army here, while the officers do (we - the officers all are contractors).

Are you blind or what? They are MERCENARIES. Wanna became a mercenary? Here you go and thank me later: http://rsb-group.ru/ :winkwink:

LOL. Soldier is a common name for a guy that is in army. You mix up the terms for regular lower rank personnel (like privats) and officers.

Not in English, they are not.


"A mercenary[1] is a person who takes part in an armed conflict, who is not a national or a party to the conflict and is "motivated to take part in the hostilities by the desire for private gain."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenary

" Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain
Hired for service in a foreign army."

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mercenary

Rusian, please, do this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-szHi35ipW9...pdatec_com.jpg

then this:

http://s3-ak.buzzfeed.com/static/cam...5119-5_big.jpg

For you - maybe. In Russia it is not. Once again: officer is not a soldier here. Soldier is the one who's rank is below junior warrant officer. Please don't even try to argue with me on the Russian military rank system. Don't be that stupid.

Слышь, алкаш. Выпей водки и усни уже.

Ну хоть закусываешь. Уже хорошо.

I am not arguing with you about Russian military system, I am arguing about English. Whatever you call them in Russia, you have pick up the equivalent word in English.

So, you have guys hired by your country, those are in your army? And you don't control them. This is interesting.

"Russian government does not control the mercenaries and is not responsible for them."

LOL. Maybe you should rethink about your statements.

facebook / instagram doesn't use GPS / GLONASS...

the jpeg image they upload has long/lat coordinates embedded into it by the phone... and those are determined by GPS and/or GLONASS... so when GPS is disabled or messed with, the phone would use GLONASS instead, and so jpeg image would still have correct long/lat coordinates embedded in it...

so the theory that US government is messing with the GPS is nonsense...:2 cents:

They should better save them for winter instead eating them now.

yes.. up there with how flightpaths can't/won't/no need to be updated..

'we never update flight paths as there is nothing to update. Please read http://fr24.com/how-it-works to get info how Flightradar24 work'

yet they are.

obviously in the above case there wasn't some grand conspiracy of screwing with the GPS.. but the flight path did change. the screen shots posted on GFY no longer match the flight paths shown.. and all these sytems use GPS.

I have no GLONASS support in my phone. Perhaps your phone has it ;) Also my phone is not smart enough to find out if the GPS data correct or not (the AI module is missing ;)) So please stop posting all that nonsense here.

Why would the United States change GPS for Ukraine? Do they even use American GPS in Ukraine?

If Russia has their own GPS, wouldn't their phones use that?

Well, that's a good question. Why doesn't Russia have it's own mobile phones? Does Russia have a company like Apple that makes cell phones? Or do you just use iPhones designed from the Silicon Valley like everyone else?

My point here is what the fuck has Russia ever accomplished? Do they have a company like Apple or Dell Or Compaq that has products used around the world? I have lots of friends from Russia and Ukraine; They all seem to use iPhones and either Apple laptops or Dells. I have yet to see anyone with a Russian made phone or computer. Hell, even the Chinese make computers that they sell here.

Well, we could start with Georgia, then Crimea, and now the rest of Ukraine. What country is next? Moldova? Turkmenistan?

The "separatists" fighting in Ukraine are completely supported, trained, armed, financed, and feed by Russia. The United States has posted proof of Russian troops firing into Ukraine. We have videos of missile launchers and tanks moving between Russia and Ukraine. The United States tracked three armored vehicles from the heart of Russia all the way to Ukraine.

where?

8char

It was all over the news... The day after the plane was shot down missile launchers were video taped by a civilian moving back into Russia....

so should be real easy posting some links

Because the separatists mainly use the weapon they took from the Ukrainian army, which (the weapon) is not intended to be used with GLONASS. Can you tell me why Google disabled its maps service during the Georgian war? What were they thinking about? Maybe they thought that Russian army has no its own satellite maps or what? The logic of some people is very weird for others, so it can't be normally interpenetrated.

Who are "they"? Here in Russia we use the same phones made in China, like the whole world does. E.g. iPhone, Smasung, Sony, Huawei, HTC etc. Course there are local brands like YotaPhone (yes, if you check the specs you'll see GLONASS there), but they are not that popular. As about the Russian army, so course it uses special GLONASS navigation systems which are unavailable for civilians.

I'll tell you a secret now. ALL the computers that you buy in the States are made in... (ding-ding-ding) China! :winkwink:

A very bad start. Georgia was not annexed by Russia.

Really? Do you have a proof or it's just something what you heard from Fox "News"? What if I tell you that the "separatists" fighting in Ukraine are completely supported, trained, armed, financed, and feed by the USA? Why not? :)

And that is a proof of your statement that "separatists fighting in Ukraine are completely supported, trained, armed, financed, and feed by Russia"? Are you for real? Man, are you sure you are not trolling, ah?

Perhaps its a "proof" for some brainless housewives, but for a marine (even a former one)? WTF???

So the missile system that shot down the plane... Which is made in Russia... Uses American GPS? That makes a lot of sense.


So Russia has GPS... but civilians can't use it? That makes sense.

That's not a secret at all; I have more college degrees in computer tech than you do. I know where the products are made. I'm just saying.... My friends in Russia and Ukraine don't use Russian phones, they use... iPhones. Which is an American company.

My question is... Doesn't Russia have a Russian company that makes phones to sell world wide?

I don't ever watch Fox news. Ever.

1) That is an old SAM made in the USSR (not in Russia).
2) It does not use GPS or something like that. It is locks a target and destroys it w/o any 3rd-party assistance. Don't really know how to properly say it in English but it's an all-in-one system. Man, are you really been to the army? Sure? If so, why didn't you learn potential enemy weapon systems? Here in Russia we learn yours.

Russia has no GPS. It has GLONASS which was fully completed in 1995 (in a same year as your GPS was realy). And yes, the system has two purposes - the military and civilian ones. The civilian GLONASS systems became available just recently. What exactly "makes scene" for you?

I have no degree in computer tech at all. But I have a military one (it's impossible to became an officer here without a 5-year high education degree).

The people here use everything. Samsung, Sony, Apple, HTC, Huawei etc. Doesn't matter which country the brands are belong. All these devices are being made in China.

Not that famous like Sony, Samsung or Apple, but course it does. E.g. Yota Devices. And yes, they sell their products (including the mobile phones) worldwide. But how is it related to this topic?

CyberSEO sucks donkey balls as usual, not a surprise.

Опа, пьяный циррозник проснулся. А говорил, что в игнор меня внес, неудачник. Какой же ты тупой и жалкий алкаш все же )

Rusian, before talking, wash your dirty mouth, that is obligatory.

Проспись уже, карнуто. Завтра поговорим ;)

Read the first sentence on the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system

Made in Russia my friend.

I'm pretty sure that ALL tracked vehicles use some of GPS / FOF systems.

So we've had civilian GPS here for.... A decade? So you could use it on iPhones but not through the Russian system?

Yet you don't seem to understand that all of these tracked vehicles have GPS / FOF.... I mean, that's how it all works. When you are in a mobile missile launcher you need to know your position, and your position relative to the target.

You don't need to actually track the vehicle for this. Getting "spot" location is much safer measure. Also the data for the missile can be fed from elsewhere (depends about the missile). For example fighter gives coordinates those are relayed by communication aircraft. Also the missiles have usually some sort of GPS, so the firing team only needs target's coordinates and the missile finds it's way to target. The firing platform can be just dumb firing platform with smart missile and smart target aquisition.

Thing is a bit different with "dumb" munitions, like standard artillery, but of course you can always use a standard map, GPS is not required, even for missiles (just not as accurate).

Even wikipedia says: In service 1979–present, sorry my friend, but there was not Russia in 1979 :pimp

No, you are wrong. These SAM's are self-independent (all-inclusive or don't even know how to say it in English). They DO NOT use any satellite navigation systems

I didn't get it. The GLONASS system was available to the army since 1995, but it wasn't used in the civilian systems till the last time. What exactly part of this sentence you don't understand?

No, you don't. Those SAM's work w/o any satellite support at all and they don't give a shit of their position (they were invented long time before GPS/GLONASS). If they lock a target, they will took it down and it doesn't matter where they are. Your SAM's like MIM-104 Patriot work in a same way, actually, so nothing unusual there.