We are going ahead with legal action agianst WSB. - GoFuckYourself.com

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-10-2003, 12:29 PM

We are going ahead with legal action agianst WSB. We recieved our January check today and like many of you it is short, we are missing $1026. That was the last straw.

The reason for this post is, like myself, many of you have also been short changed for pay periods Jan1 to 31st. Im sure some of you called WSB regarding this issue. I would like you to PLEASE post the excuses you've gotten this time. We were told it was a type "o".

Also, I would like to mention that my team believes that the reason the checks are short was not in error but in dilberate deception. Allow me to explain, lets assume they are once again trying to fuck us, if you cash your checks you ACCEPT payment for that particular pay period. Again I repeat, this is just speculation on our part, NOT a fact. Please use your own judgement on this particular issue.

This is my last post on this WSB matter utill it has made its way out of court.

references:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling

good luck guys and gals,
Ray

FATPad · 03-10-2003, 12:46 PM

Isn't it the sponsor's final responsibility to make sure you get paid?

angelsofporn · 03-10-2003, 12:48 PM

got my check today..750 short

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-10-2003, 12:52 PM

Ok, my last post for real now, lol

"We were told it was a type "o". "

We need to hear excuses guys. The more FALSE excusses we get the better

Ray

rooster · 03-10-2003, 01:01 PM

Interesting. It almost seems like 3rd party processing for adult sites isnt a viable business plan any more. Then companies are forced into these kinda tactics if they want to keep any market share.

maxjohan · 03-10-2003, 01:11 PM

I think you guys should go with clickbank.com.

quiet · 03-10-2003, 01:12 PM

chupacabra · 03-10-2003, 01:12 PM

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Interesting. It almost seems like 3rd party processing for adult sites isnt a viable business plan any more. Then companies are forced into these kinda tactics if they want to keep any market share.

well, not all of them at least... ccBill *always* sends our checks on time, we don't worry about these kind of problems w/ them, they've always been on the level for us (for 3 years now, at least!)..

johnny1 · 03-10-2003, 01:28 PM

Its sad to see how the little guy always ends up paying!!!

ronaldo · 03-10-2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
Interesting. It almost seems like 3rd party processing for adult sites isnt a viable business plan any more. Then companies are forced into these kinda tactics if they want to keep any market share.

My #1 sponsor doesn't use third party billing.

BUT, you have to REALLY trust your sponsor.

johnny1 · 03-10-2003, 01:31 PM

hey ray if you need a lawer let me know...i know a great one!!! and ill also make 40% of that sale....

FATPad · 03-10-2003, 01:31 PM

I don't understand why you guys aren't bitching at your sponsors.

Unless you're not an affiliate.

Then I understand.

Sly_RJ · 03-10-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
I don't understand why you guys aren't bitching at your sponsors.

I'm wondering if the sponsors were paid their cut?

FATPad · 03-10-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I'm wondering if the sponsors were paid their cut?

Should that even matter?

When Ibill tried to say they couldn't pay people for the web900 billing because Worldcom (or whoever it was) went bankrupt and didn't pay them, no one wanted to hear it. Everyone said the agreement was with Ibill so it didn't matter.

This is no different.

Sly_RJ · 03-10-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Should that even matter?

When Ibill tried to say they couldn't pay people for the web900 billing because Worldcom (or whoever it was) went bankrupt and didn't pay them, no one wanted to hear it. Everyone said the agreement was with Ibill so it didn't matter.

This is no different.

No, it shouldn't matter. But it would still be interesting to know.

I would think if the sponsors were not paid their cut, they would be causing just as much of a fuss. So I'm making the assumption that they have been paid, yet the affiliates have not.

Just some thoughts, and assumptions.

FATPad · 03-10-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No, it shouldn't matter. But it would still be interesting to know.

I would think if the sponsors were not paid their cut, they would be causing just as much of a fuss. So I'm making the assumption that they have been paid, yet the affiliates have not.

Just some thoughts, and assumptions.

I know. Me, too. ;)

I am wondering if the sponsors are getting paid, too, though.

johnny1 · 03-10-2003, 01:40 PM

they should be.....wouldnt they be bitching with the rest of us!!!

SpaceAce · 03-10-2003, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

No, it shouldn't matter. But it would still be interesting to know.

I would think if the sponsors were not paid their cut, they would be causing just as much of a fuss. So I'm making the assumption that they have been paid, yet the affiliates have not.

Just some thoughts, and assumptions.

I have seen one or two sponsorship program owners on here defending WSB...

SpaceAce

johnny1 · 03-10-2003, 01:43 PM

Maybe we should go pay wsb a visit in person ray...

a L'italiano!!!...LoL

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-10-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by johnny1
Maybe we should go pay wsb a visit in person ray...

a L'italiano!!!...LoL

Forse a'lultimo <---cant spell in Itallain

johnny1 · 03-10-2003, 07:48 PM

is it anybody else promoting TRIPLE X

asuna · 03-10-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ray

Forse a'lultimo <---cant spell in Itallain

no you can't, but neither can i lol

jigga · 03-11-2003, 02:51 PM

finally got my check in today for January......about $800 short.....good stuff :-)

chupacabra · 03-11-2003, 02:59 PM

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finally got my check in today for January......about $800 short.....good stuff :-)

from what i understand you probably shouldn't cash it, someone intimated here on the boards that doing so can constitute your acceptance of settling for that amount, not sure if thats correct or not..!

jigga · 03-11-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by chupacabra

from what i understand you probably shouldn't cash it, someone intimated here on the boards that doing so can constitute your acceptance of settling for that amount, not sure if thats correct or not..!

anyone know if these checks are clearing?

<p>

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 07:07 AM

Here we fucking go again. I cant believe I (we) gotta go through this shit again, like I have nothing else better to do than chase lame fucking asswhole for my money. WSB, think I was pissed last time?

XxXotic · 05-08-2003, 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by Ray
Here we fucking go again. I cant believe I (we) gotta go through this shit again, like I have nothing else better to do than chase lame fucking asswhole for my money. WSB, think I was pissed last time?

still owe me money too. fucking absurd. i think tripleX needs to step the fuck up here

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
i think tripleX needs to step the fuck up here

Unfortunatly, there is only so much they can do

. Im sure Triple X is doing there best to help us out.

FATPad · 05-08-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ray

Unfortunatly, there is only so much they can do . Im sure Triple X is doing there best to help us out.

They could pay you.

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Should that even matter?

When Ibill tried to say they couldn't pay people for the web900 billing because Worldcom (or whoever it was) went bankrupt and didn't pay them, no one wanted to hear it. Everyone said the agreement was with Ibill so it didn't matter.

This is no different.

wsb sent the cheques directly to the affiliate. worldcom didn't send cheques directly to affiliates.

archer · 05-08-2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Should that even matter?

When Ibill tried to say they couldn't pay people for the web900 billing because Worldcom (or whoever it was) went bankrupt and didn't pay them, no one wanted to hear it. Everyone said the agreement was with Ibill so it didn't matter.

This is no different.

this is an interesting - BAD - legal situation.

doesn't it come down to how the contract between the parties is written?

in some fields like construction, for example, standard contracts contain a 'pay when paid' clause. ie you don't get paid for your work until the guy ahead of you in the chain gets paid. but i don't think i've even seen a contract like that outside of construction.

what is the case here?

FATPad · 05-08-2003, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by archer

this is an interesting - BAD - legal situation.

doesn't it come down to how the contract between the parties is written?

in some fields like construction, for example, standard contracts contain a 'pay when paid' clause. ie you don't get paid for your work until the guy ahead of you in the chain gets paid. but i don't think i've even seen a contract like that outside of construction.

what is the case here?

I don't know actually. ;) The contracts could be written differently in which case the sponsor may be free and clear legally.

I wouldn't care anyways. If I sign up with a sponsor promising me 50% of sales, I don't care if the processor they are using is having checks withheld from them by their banks because one of their bigger clients screwed things up for them. Get a processor that doesn't live week to week.

If the processor doesn't pay, the sponsor should pay out of their own pocket.

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad

If the processor doesn't pay, the sponsor should pay out of their own pocket.

Since WSB is still operational, Im sure Triple X (like I sadi) is doing there best to resolve this.

IF WSB would be go bankrupt Im sure Triple X would take care of the payments, without hesitation. For the time being thats not the case.

EscortBiz · 05-08-2003, 08:06 AM

Do you know the real name of the owner of WSB?

Do you know who his background?

If you don't do some research

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
Do you know the real name of the owner of WSB?

Do you know who his background?

If you don't do some research

If one would take legal action against WSB, it would be against WSB inc.

Is that what you meant? Or do you know something we dont?

XxXotic · 05-08-2003, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by Ray

Unfortunatly, there is only so much they can do . Im sure Triple X is doing there best to help us out.

thats a load of shit. it's not *my* responsibility to chase around *their* fucking processors for *my* money.

it's now almost 3 months behind and i'm owed a bit of money. it's like goodfellas.... have a bad month? fuck you, pay me.... restaurant burn down? fuck you pay me.

this is fucking ridiculous.

XxXotic · 05-08-2003, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by Ray

Since WSB is still operational, Im sure Triple X (like I sadi) is doing there best to resolve this.

IF WSB would be go bankrupt Im sure Triple X would take care of the payments, without hesitation. For the time being thats not the case.

how the fuck do you expect to run a respectable business when you let it get to THAT point.

what? WSB has to fold for tripleX to MAYBE pay me? fuck that, maybe I should forward my bills to tripleXcash, or maybe i should take the pisspoor attitude that WSB does and tell anyone I owe money to "you'll get your money when I get mine"

what a fucking joke that is. I can't believe a processor actually had the cajones to say that to people it owed money to.

time for these half assed fly by night operations to be stomped into nothing. god forbid I should ever meet a WSB rep face to face, they'll need to cut my leg off at the hip in order to remove my size 12 nike's from their ass

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
thats a load of shit. it's not *my* responsibility to chase around *their* fucking processors for *my* money.

it's now almost 3 months behind and i'm owed a bit of money. it's like goodfellas.... have a bad month? fuck you, pay me.... restaurant burn down? fuck you pay me.

this is fucking ridiculous.

when you signed up you were getting paid by wsb. if they don't pay, you go after wsb.

KRL · 05-08-2003, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic

it's like goodfellas.... have a bad month? fuck you, pay me.... restaurant burn down? fuck you pay me.

Yeh that's what this industry needs. Goodfellows.

No traffic? Fuck You Pay Me!

No signups? Fuck You Pay Me!

TGP Traffic? Fuck You Pay Me!

Chargebacks? Fuck You Pay Me!

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
how the fuck do you expect to run a respectable business when you let it get to THAT point.

what? WSB has to fold for tripleX to MAYBE pay me? fuck that, maybe I should forward my bills to tripleXcash, or maybe i should take the pisspoor attitude that WSB does and tell anyone I owe money to "you'll get your money when I get mine"

what a fucking joke that is. I can't believe a processor actually had the cajones to say that to people it owed money to.

time for these half assed fly by night operations to be stomped into nothing. god forbid I should ever meet a WSB rep face to face, they'll need to cut my leg off at the hip in order to remove my size 12 nike's from their ass

I hear ya man, I feel your pain

cherrylula · 05-08-2003, 09:37 AM

motherfuckers.... call them to ask about your money and get hung up on.

:pissed:

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
motherfuckers.... call them to ask about your money and get hung up on.

:pissed:

Are you fucking serious?!?!?!?! Today?

Ray@TastyDollars · 05-08-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Ray

Are you fucking serious?!?!?!?! Today?

I guess you are

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=132144

Fletch XXX · 05-08-2003, 10:00 AM

They told me there is a 45 day hold on the funds on the second call, but the girl straight up hung up on me the first time, when I ketp asking about why the money wasnt available.

She continued on to argue about 'the amount I was owed' instead of 'why the checks hadnt come' and when I would not let her keep changing the subject she hung up on me.

XxXotic · 05-08-2003, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

when you signed up you were getting paid by wsb. if they don't pay, you go after wsb.

Been there, done that, got the swollen asshole to show for it too since they bent me over and fucked me dry.

regardless, it falls back to tripleXcash, my agreement was/is with them and not WSB. Like I said, it's not my responsibilty to chase your 1/2 assed processor around for my money. They didn't have to chase me around for the assload of traffic/joins i sent them.

The only response I ever got from TripleX in this is "please don;t bash us on the boards, it's not fair" fuck you, pay me then I'll play fair and I'll have no reason to shit talk you. I don't give a rats ass about your processing woes, YOU got the joins on time, I want my fucking money on time.

so it goes like this, i don't get my money by wednesday of next week, i dont care if tripleX has to write me a check from their personal bank accounts to cover the funds anything related to them gets yanked from ALL of my sites. fuck this shit, I don't have time for bullshit half assed operations. maybe if they ever get their shit straight they'll get some traffic again but after this nightmare uh-uh. I had respect for the TripleX crew, but since Ive been chasing monies since FUCKING DECEMBER they can kiss my hairy white ass after a visit to an all you can eat mexican buffet

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
Been there, done that, got the swollen asshole to show for it too since they bent me over and fucked me dry.

regardless, it falls back to tripleXcash, my agreement was/is with them and not WSB. Like I said, it's not my responsibilty to chase your 1/2 assed processor around for my money. They didn't have to chase me around for the assload of traffic/joins i sent them.

The only response I ever got from TripleX in this is "please don;t bash us on the boards, it's not fair" fuck you, pay me then I'll play fair and I'll have no reason to shit talk you. I don't give a rats ass about your processing woes, YOU got the joins on time, I want my fucking money on time.

so it goes like this, i don't get my money by wednesday of next week, i dont care if tripleX has to write me a check from their personal bank accounts to cover the funds anything related to them gets yanked from ALL of my sites. fuck this shit, I don't have time for bullshit half assed operations. maybe if they ever get their shit straight they'll get some traffic again but after this nightmare uh-uh. I had respect for the TripleX crew, but since Ive been chasing monies since FUCKING DECEMBER they can kiss my hairy white ass after a visit to an all you can eat mexican buffet

the agreement for sending payments was with wsb. they cut the cheques not triple x cash.

this is completely different than a company like ARS who cut their own cheques. if ibill doesn't pay ARS, then ARS is still responsible for paying its affiliates. triple x cash has a different setup like a lot of smaller sites who are setup so that the processor sends payments directly to the affiliate.

XxXotic · 05-08-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

the agreement for sending payments was with wsb. they cut the cheques not triple x cash.

this is completely different than a company like ARS who cut their own cheques. if ibill doesn't pay ARS, then ARS is still responsible for paying its affiliates. triple x cash has a different setup like a lot of smaller sites who are setup so that the processor sends payments directly to the affiliate.

again, i'm tired of hearing bullshit excuses. time for tripleX to step up and say "hey, we give a shit about our webmasters"

how's it right for them to sit around on their fat asses makin bank, takin vacations and shit while their company owes THOUSANDS of dollars.

fuck, i would have had a better chance getting paid sending my money to dollars4all

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
again, i'm tired of hearing bullshit excuses. time for tripleX to step up and say "hey, we give a shit about our webmasters"

how's it right for them to sit around on their fat asses makin bank, takin vacations and shit while their company owes THOUSANDS of dollars.

fuck, i would have had a better chance getting paid sending my money to dollars4all

did they get paid by wsb? they switched to ccbill because of the problems with wsb. you have to go after wsb for money owed. shouldn't be hard to get a class action lawsuit considering how many people have been ripped off by them. if triple x cash is owed money, they would join in on that along with their affiliates,

if a company uses a questionable processor and the processor sends payments to affiliates, stay away from promoting that site. i do that with ibill sites. i typically stay away from sites that let ibill send payments.

vegasdude · 05-08-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

the agreement for sending payments was with wsb. they cut the cheques not triple x cash.

this is completely different than a company like ARS who cut their own cheques. if ibill doesn't pay ARS, then ARS is still responsible for paying its affiliates. triple x cash has a different setup like a lot of smaller sites who are setup so that the processor sends payments directly to the affiliate.

depends on triple X's TOS mate!!

FlyingIguana · 05-08-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by vegasdude

depends on triple X's TOS mate!!

triple x cash had nothing to do with payments. if payments arent sent, you have to go after wsb.

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Ray@TastyDollars www.TastyDollars.com Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,797	We are going ahead with legal action agianst WSB. We are going ahead with legal action agianst WSB. We recieved our January check today and like many of you it is short, we are missing $1026. That was the last straw. The reason for this post is, like myself, many of you have also been short changed for pay periods Jan1 to 31st. Im sure some of you called WSB regarding this issue. I would like you to PLEASE post the excuses you've gotten this time. We were told it was a type "o". Also, I would like to mention that my team believes that the reason the checks are short was not in error but in dilberate deception. Allow me to explain, lets assume they are once again trying to fuck us, if you cash your checks you ACCEPT payment for that particular pay period. Again I repeat, this is just speculation on our part, NOT a fact. Please use your own judgement on this particular issue. This is my last post on this WSB matter utill it has made its way out of court. references: http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...bsit ebilling good luck guys and gals, Ray __________________ The nets best interracial and cuckold site The nets hottest teen site ICQ me: 161 375 873

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angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	got my check today..750 short

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	Interesting. It almost seems like 3rd party processing for adult sites isnt a viable business plan any more. Then companies are forced into these kinda tactics if they want to keep any market share.

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johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	Its sad to see how the little guy always ends up paying!!!

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johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	they should be.....wouldnt they be bitching with the rest of us!!!

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johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	Maybe we should go pay wsb a visit in person ray... a L'italiano!!!...LoL

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johnny1 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: MTL Posts: 872	is it anybody else promoting TRIPLE X

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jigga Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 302	finally got my check in today for January......about $800 short.....good stuff :-)

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