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devilspost 01-11-2014 05:27 PM

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2MuchMark 01-11-2014 08:15 PM

Robby, Vendzilla :

You guys have a really great president. You need to stand up to the righties at Fox and and other media and stop slamming him so much for stuff that was never anything to do with him to begin with.

One reason why people outside of your country give a damn is because what Americans do affects us. The GOP is polluting the hell out of the planet thanks to the Koch brothers and there ever-lasting war things like the EPA. Republicans are taking away voter rights, women's rights, marriage rights, etc. Taking money away from the public school system will guarantee a dumber bunch of young adults who will have zero job skills. Stand up for fuck sakes and do something about it. Make sure EVERYONE can vote, and vote those fuckers out.

Have a good weekend.

NEW XTC 01-12-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19941895)
I truly feel sorry for people like this, too. I mean, the cognitive dissonance must be tremendous. Just like ObamaBots who refuse to accept that he's governed as a Center-Right corporatist with a neocon foreign policy.

Agree 100 percent :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19942087)
Robby, Vendzilla :

You guys have a really great president. You need to stand up to the righties at Fox and and other media and stop slamming him so much for stuff that was never anything to do with him to begin with.

One reason why people outside of your country give a damn is because what Americans do affects us. The GOP is polluting the hell out of the planet thanks to the Koch brothers and there ever-lasting war things like the EPA. Republicans are taking away voter rights, women's rights, marriage rights, etc. Taking money away from the public school system will guarantee a dumber bunch of young adults who will have zero job skills. Stand up for fuck sakes and do something about it. Make sure EVERYONE can vote, and vote those fuckers out.

Have a good weekend.

You're a good dude Mark but you show a little naivety. Vendzilla and Robbie and Minte and the other "Conservatives" on this board are zebras that will never change their stripes. These types of guys go wayyyy back, back to the days of Jim Crow (wiki it if not familiar).

Conservatism is at its core: Pure Unadulterated Racism.

But that is an over simplification - because conservatism is even much worse than that - it's a loose knit coalition of hate based groups. They hate Women, LGBT Persons, Poor Elderly, Poor Young people, all Minorities, and poor White People - but no one gets more hate and venom from Conservatives than African Americans.

It's very telling that Robbie comes in this thread and says he's not a Republican but rather a Libertarian - there is only one group in the US more overtly racist than Libertarians: The KKK.

The Libertarian "Movement" (it's declining so the movement is backwards) is 99.999 all white - there are so few black Libertarians that if you are one - you become an instant celebrity in the movement and are offered all kinds of interviews and speaking engagements, thats how rare Black Libertarians are.

When we elected Obama it stirred to life deep dark and ancient racial resentments from all those old families where fathers have handed down to sons the idea that black persons were, and should still be, our subjects, servants, or even slaves - this manifested itself in the form of the hate group known as the "Tea Party".

Fox News (the misinformation propaganda arm of the Republican Party) together with the Koch Brothers and other right wing hate funded organizations injected money, air time, and organizational efforts to make the Tea Party come to life and have a radical impact on the Presidency of Barack Obama. They managed to take hold of enough congressional seats in 2010/12 that enabled them to block nearly everything Obama has wanted to accomplish and they have set the astounding record of becoming the worst congress of all time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...congress-ever/

The most interesting thing about the All White (nearly) Tea Party is that the vast majority of them are poor (and nearly all uneducated). So the policies they are advocating for work directly AGAINST their interests. Only the forces of bigotry, racism, and sexism, can overpower a families desire to put more food on the table. Like the anomaly of a Black Libertarian - a middle to lower class Tea Partier (or Republican) is involved in an organization that exists solely for principals that will make their lives WORSE in the form of higher income disparity.

Now there is all out war between the "mainstream" Republicans (the old guard who actually governed) and the Tea Party who exist solely to obstruct Obama - but both of them share the same principals of greed and overt racism and sexism (anti-abortion being the most violent form of of sexism) - the stated positions of "smaller goverment and fiscal responsibility" are a total sham...they abandon these principals in a heartbeat and spend like crazy if that money goes into the pockets of the rich...SO what is happening now is we have a lot of these guys, smart guys, like Minte, Robbie, Vendzilla and other GFY venom spitters left out in the cold ideologically - if you are smart you can see that the Republican Party is soon to be a dead relic of the past - Libertarianism is a racist utopian fantasy that could never gain ANY traction in a multicultural nation..of course they hate the Green Party and most deny global warming...Democrat is a dirty word...so where do they go - where do they belong - where can they direct their white entitled hate? Plan on seeing them on GFY for a long time to come shaking their fat fists at the clouds and screaming DAMN YOU OBAMA!

BFT3K 01-12-2014 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19942359)
Agree 100 percent :thumbsup

You're a good dude Mark but you show a little naivety. Vendzilla and Robbie and Minte and the other "Conservatives" on this board are zebras that will never change their stripes. These types of guys go wayyyy back, back to the days of Jim Crow (wiki it if not familiar).

Conservatism is at its core: Pure Unadulterated Racism.

But that is an over simplification - because conservatism is even much worse than that - it's a loose knit coalition of hate based groups. They hate Women, LGBT Persons, Poor Elderly, Poor Young people, all Minorities, and poor White People - but no one gets more hate and venom from Conservatives than African Americans.

It's very telling that Robbie comes in this thread and says he's not a Republican but rather a Libertarian - there is only one group in the US more overtly racist than Libertarians: The KKK.

The Libertarian "Movement" (it's declining so the movement is backwards) is 99.999 all white - there are so few black Libertarians that if you are one - you become an instant celebrity in the movement and are offered all kinds of interviews and speaking engagements, thats how rare Black Libertarians are.

When we elected Obama it stirred to life deep dark and ancient racial resentments from all those old families where fathers have handed down to sons the idea that black persons were, and should still be, our subjects, servants, or even slaves - this manifested itself in the form of the hate group known as the "Tea Party".

Fox News (the misinformation propaganda arm of the Republican Party) together with the Koch Brothers and other right wing hate funded organizations injected money, air time, and organizational efforts to make the Tea Party come to life and have a radical impact on the Presidency of Barack Obama. They managed to take hold of enough congressional seats in 2010/12 that enabled them to block nearly everything Obama has wanted to accomplish and they have set the astounding record of becoming the worst congress of all time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...congress-ever/

The most interesting thing about the All White (nearly) Tea Party is that the vast majority of them are poor (and nearly all uneducated). So the policies they are advocating for work directly AGAINST their interests. Only the forces of bigotry, racism, and sexism, can overpower a families desire to put more food on the table. Like the anomaly of a Black Libertarian - a middle to lower class Tea Partier (or Republican) is involved in an organization that exists solely for principals that will make their lives WORSE in the form of higher income disparity.

Now there is all out war between the "mainstream" Republicans (the old guard who actually governed) and the Tea Party who exist solely to obstruct Obama - but both of them share the same principals of greed and overt racism and sexism (anti-abortion being the most violent form of of sexism) - the stated positions of "smaller goverment and fiscal responsibility" are a total sham...they abandon these principals in a heartbeat and spend like crazy if that money goes into the pockets of the rich...SO what is happening now is we have a lot of these guys, smart guys, like Minte, Robbie, Vendzilla and other GFY venom spitters left out in the cold ideologically - if you are smart you can see that the Republican Party is soon to be a dead relic of the past - Libertarianism is a racist utopian fantasy that could never gain ANY traction in a multicultural nation..of course they hate the Green Party and most deny global warming...Democrat is a dirty word...so where do they go - where do they belong - where can they direct their white entitled hate? Plan on seeing them on GFY for a long time to come shaking their fat fists at the clouds and screaming DAMN YOU OBAMA!

Spot On :thumbsup

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Minte 01-12-2014 09:43 AM

You people are entertaining. Do you ever wonder why you are at the bottom, looking up.

In a few years Obama will be out and you will look back and say he was our man.. He wanted us to raise ourselves from the gutter.

But what happened? Why are we still at the bottom. He promised us! He said he would make it a fair nation. He said he would give us things we haven't been able to get on our own.. Then you will look around with your eyes open and realize you are worse off than before.

If any of you actually went to college you would recognize Obama for exactly what he is. A professor that never did anything in life but stand behind a podium and lecture children. He has no background at all. No military, no business..nothing.

Colin Powell would've made a great first black president. Hillary Clinton should've been the first female president. You people got suckered, plain and simple.

Good luck with your change..you will need it.

devilspost 01-12-2014 10:08 AM


2MuchMark 01-12-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19942359)
Agree 100 percent :thumbsup



You're a good dude Mark but you show a little naivety. Vendzilla and Robbie and Minte and the other "Conservatives" on this board are zebras that will never change their stripes. These types of guys go wayyyy back, back to the days of Jim Crow (wiki it if not familiar).

Conservatism is at its core: Pure Unadulterated Racism.

But that is an over simplification - because conservatism is even much worse than that - it's a loose knit coalition of hate based groups. They hate Women, LGBT Persons, Poor Elderly, Poor Young people, all Minorities, and poor White People - but no one gets more hate and venom from Conservatives than African Americans.

It's very telling that Robbie comes in this thread and says he's not a Republican but rather a Libertarian - there is only one group in the US more overtly racist than Libertarians: The KKK.

The Libertarian "Movement" (it's declining so the movement is backwards) is 99.999 all white - there are so few black Libertarians that if you are one - you become an instant celebrity in the movement and are offered all kinds of interviews and speaking engagements, thats how rare Black Libertarians are.

When we elected Obama it stirred to life deep dark and ancient racial resentments from all those old families where fathers have handed down to sons the idea that black persons were, and should still be, our subjects, servants, or even slaves - this manifested itself in the form of the hate group known as the "Tea Party".

Fox News (the misinformation propaganda arm of the Republican Party) together with the Koch Brothers and other right wing hate funded organizations injected money, air time, and organizational efforts to make the Tea Party come to life and have a radical impact on the Presidency of Barack Obama. They managed to take hold of enough congressional seats in 2010/12 that enabled them to block nearly everything Obama has wanted to accomplish and they have set the astounding record of becoming the worst congress of all time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...congress-ever/

The most interesting thing about the All White (nearly) Tea Party is that the vast majority of them are poor (and nearly all uneducated). So the policies they are advocating for work directly AGAINST their interests. Only the forces of bigotry, racism, and sexism, can overpower a families desire to put more food on the table. Like the anomaly of a Black Libertarian - a middle to lower class Tea Partier (or Republican) is involved in an organization that exists solely for principals that will make their lives WORSE in the form of higher income disparity.

Now there is all out war between the "mainstream" Republicans (the old guard who actually governed) and the Tea Party who exist solely to obstruct Obama - but both of them share the same principals of greed and overt racism and sexism (anti-abortion being the most violent form of of sexism) - the stated positions of "smaller goverment and fiscal responsibility" are a total sham...they abandon these principals in a heartbeat and spend like crazy if that money goes into the pockets of the rich...SO what is happening now is we have a lot of these guys, smart guys, like Minte, Robbie, Vendzilla and other GFY venom spitters left out in the cold ideologically - if you are smart you can see that the Republican Party is soon to be a dead relic of the past - Libertarianism is a racist utopian fantasy that could never gain ANY traction in a multicultural nation..of course they hate the Green Party and most deny global warming...Democrat is a dirty word...so where do they go - where do they belong - where can they direct their white entitled hate? Plan on seeing them on GFY for a long time to come shaking their fat fists at the clouds and screaming DAMN YOU OBAMA!


Never, has anyone ever hit the nail on the head like you have, in this post. Exactly right and well said.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19942398)
You people are entertaining. Do you ever wonder why you are at the bottom, looking up.

In a few years Obama will be out and you will look back and say he was our man.. He wanted us to raise ourselves from the gutter.

But what happened? Why are we still at the bottom. He promised us! He said he would make it a fair nation. He said he would give us things we haven't been able to get on our own.. Then you will look around with your eyes open and realize you are worse off than before.

If any of you actually went to college you would recognize Obama for exactly what he is. A professor that never did anything in life but stand behind a podium and lecture children. He has no background at all. No military, no business..nothing.

Colin Powell would've made a great first black president. Hillary Clinton should've been the first female president. You people got suckered, plain and simple.

Good luck with your change..you will need it.

Another great post on GFY. Again very well said.

SuckOnThis 01-12-2014 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19942359)
Agree 100 percent :thumbsup



You're a good dude Mark but you show a little naivety. Vendzilla and Robbie and Minte and the other "Conservatives" on this board are zebras that will never change their stripes. These types of guys go wayyyy back, back to the days of Jim Crow (wiki it if not familiar).

Conservatism is at its core: Pure Unadulterated Racism.

But that is an over simplification - because conservatism is even much worse than that - it's a loose knit coalition of hate based groups. They hate Women, LGBT Persons, Poor Elderly, Poor Young people, all Minorities, and poor White People - but no one gets more hate and venom from Conservatives than African Americans.

It's very telling that Robbie comes in this thread and says he's not a Republican but rather a Libertarian - there is only one group in the US more overtly racist than Libertarians: The KKK.

The Libertarian "Movement" (it's declining so the movement is backwards) is 99.999 all white - there are so few black Libertarians that if you are one - you become an instant celebrity in the movement and are offered all kinds of interviews and speaking engagements, thats how rare Black Libertarians are.

When we elected Obama it stirred to life deep dark and ancient racial resentments from all those old families where fathers have handed down to sons the idea that black persons were, and should still be, our subjects, servants, or even slaves - this manifested itself in the form of the hate group known as the "Tea Party".

Fox News (the misinformation propaganda arm of the Republican Party) together with the Koch Brothers and other right wing hate funded organizations injected money, air time, and organizational efforts to make the Tea Party come to life and have a radical impact on the Presidency of Barack Obama. They managed to take hold of enough congressional seats in 2010/12 that enabled them to block nearly everything Obama has wanted to accomplish and they have set the astounding record of becoming the worst congress of all time:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...congress-ever/

The most interesting thing about the All White (nearly) Tea Party is that the vast majority of them are poor (and nearly all uneducated). So the policies they are advocating for work directly AGAINST their interests. Only the forces of bigotry, racism, and sexism, can overpower a families desire to put more food on the table. Like the anomaly of a Black Libertarian - a middle to lower class Tea Partier (or Republican) is involved in an organization that exists solely for principals that will make their lives WORSE in the form of higher income disparity.

Now there is all out war between the "mainstream" Republicans (the old guard who actually governed) and the Tea Party who exist solely to obstruct Obama - but both of them share the same principals of greed and overt racism and sexism (anti-abortion being the most violent form of of sexism) - the stated positions of "smaller goverment and fiscal responsibility" are a total sham...they abandon these principals in a heartbeat and spend like crazy if that money goes into the pockets of the rich...SO what is happening now is we have a lot of these guys, smart guys, like Minte, Robbie, Vendzilla and other GFY venom spitters left out in the cold ideologically - if you are smart you can see that the Republican Party is soon to be a dead relic of the past - Libertarianism is a racist utopian fantasy that could never gain ANY traction in a multicultural nation..of course they hate the Green Party and most deny global warming...Democrat is a dirty word...so where do they go - where do they belong - where can they direct their white entitled hate? Plan on seeing them on GFY for a long time to come shaking their fat fists at the clouds and screaming DAMN YOU OBAMA!

:thumbsup

Robbie 01-12-2014 05:29 PM

Wow, I never realized that I was a racist! Thanks to all of you for setting me straight!

Apparently believing that the govt should be as small as possible and as non obtrusive in my life as possible is just plain out racist.

I sincerely apologize to all my black friends, my former live-in black girlfriend, and the hundred or so black guys that I have filmed fucking Claudia Marie.

I will try not to be so racist in the future. I now see the light and realize that we need govt. to rule over every aspect of our lives and we need to send more money to the politicians in Washington DC because they have done such a great job so far. We must continue the War On Drugs, ultra religious organizations must keep influencing our laws, and I just need to accept that there can never be any political viewpoint but Democrat or Republican.

Anything else is just racist.

I apologize.
Fox News probably is responsible for my racist actions (even though I watch Al Jazeera America), or else it was Bush that did this to me.

I did vote for Obama in 2008. But I guess my enlightenment didn't "take" at the time.

But I'm cured now of my racism. I renounce my affiliation with the Libertarian party and I will rejoin the Democrat party asap

Please forgive me for ever being so foolish as to leave the ONLY party that isn't racist. Again I apologize.

I only hope y'all can forgive me.

2MuchMark 01-12-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942754)
Wow, I never realized that I was a racist! Thanks to all of you for setting me straight!

Robbie I don't think you're a racist... I don't think this is what NEW XTC meant either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942754)
Apparently believing that the govt should be as small as possible and as non obtrusive in my life as possible is just plain out racist.

The whole "government is too big" thing is another BS talking point. The GOP and right-wing media say things like "reduce the size of the government" in order to cut funding to support programs such as community outreach programs.

And you have to admit that the GOP's efforts to make it harder to vote IS a racist thing. It's a known fact that black people tend to vote democratic. Instead of listening to the needs of the black community, they make it harder for black people to vote by cutting the number of voting machines and Jerrymandering (sp?). Then there's the insane gun laws you have in the US which are clearly in place because republican white people are afraid of black people. It's just so screwed up...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942754)
I sincerely apologize to all my black friends, my former live-in black girlfriend, and the hundred or so black guys that I have filmed fucking Claudia Marie.

I've always considered interracial porn to be kind of a racist thing. I can't really explain it, but...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942754)
Fox News probably is responsible for my racist actions (even though I watch Al Jazeera America), or else it was Bush that did this to me.

Lol! No not you, but you can bet that lots of racists watch Fox news and Jerk-off to Rush Limbaugh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942754)
I did vote for Obama in 2008. But I guess my enlightenment didn't "take" at the time.

You sir, are awesome sir. I will buy you a beer at the next show.

PornDiscounts-V 01-12-2014 06:55 PM

Fake asshole.

Robbie 01-12-2014 07:13 PM

Mark when I say the govt is too big... I'm talking about things like the war on drugs, the bloated military budget, the tsa, the nsa, the cia, and a bunch of other secretive acronyms.

I think that the govt is too big when it's 17 trillion dollars in debt and won't stop spending.

I think we could cut this military budget by 9/10's

Do we really need to spend all this money we don't have on a military that is bigger than the next 20 countries combined?

I just get disgusted at these career politicians and their business cronies getting rich while the average citizen struggles.

I think we could cut taxes and allow families to keep more of their own money AND still help people that need it if we cut the military and stopped porkbarrel spending.

Think of how many hungry, homeless, and sick people could be helped.

I would hope that those of you with a modicum of intelligence would see that I am the furthest thing from a racist or a social conservative that a person could possibly be.

As far as the Libertarian party... I never thought about them until 2012.

I felt betrayed by the Republicans, and believed Obama when he said he was going to change things.
Now I feel betrayed by the Dems too.

When I read Gary Johnsons views, I realized that I agreed with him far more than anything that the Republicans or Democrats had to say. I felt that the 2 ruling parties were just gonna keep on doing the same things they've been doing all along.

Hasn't got anything to do with Obama being half black.
I do have a lot of black friends. And when we shoot the shit about politics they are not happy with what Obama is doing either.

Keep in mind that these are successful black men that I'm referring to.

Are there lots of white rednecks who are racist? Of course there are.

And there are also lots of black people who are racists as well.

I have no time for the white or black variety of racist people. They are all ignorant in my opinion.

2MuchMark 01-12-2014 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
Mark when I say the govt is too big... I'm talking about things like the war on drugs, the bloated military budget, the tsa, the nsa, the cia, and a bunch of other secretive acronyms.


That's cool, I agree with you. But usually when Righties say Government is too big, they talk about services like the EPA. When they talk about the EPA, they say things like their restrictions prevent job / business growth etc, therefore the Government is in your way / the government is too big.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
I think that the govt is too big when it's 17 trillion dollars in debt and won't stop spending.

Wow, I agree too! Way too much money is spent on the military, and too much money is lost on Tax loopholes for big business. GE for example, pays no tax, and big Oil actually gets Tax subsidies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
I think we could cut this military budget by 9/10's

That might be too much, but yes I mostly agree. Even a 10 or 20% reduction in military spending would be cool. The US really needs the money and in my opinion this is a good place to get it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
Do we really need to spend all this money we don't have on a military that is bigger than the next 20 countries combined?

Not at all! You are about to get another free beer from me.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
I think we could cut taxes and allow families to keep more of their own money AND still help people that need it if we cut the military and stopped porkbarrel spending.

You sir, are a rockin' fellow, sir!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19942829)
Think of how many hungry, homeless, and sick people could be helped.

I would hope that those of you with a modicum of intelligence would see that I am the furthest thing from a racist or a social conservative that a person could possibly be.

As far as the Libertarian party... I never thought about them until 2012.

I felt betrayed by the Republicans, and believed Obama when he said he was going to change things.
Now I feel betrayed by the Dems too.

Why do you feel betrayed by the dems?

When I read Gary Johnsons views, I realized that I agreed with him far more than anything that the Republicans or Democrats had to say. I felt that the 2 ruling parties were just gonna keep on doing the same things they've been doing all along.

Hasn't got anything to do with Obama being half black.
I do have a lot of black friends. And when we shoot the shit about politics they are not happy with what Obama is doing either.

Keep in mind that these are successful black men that I'm referring to.

Are there lots of white rednecks who are racist? Of course there are.

And there are also lots of black people who are racists as well.

I have no time for the white or black variety of racist people. They are all ignorant in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

High-five.

Rochard 01-12-2014 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19942398)
Then you will look around with your eyes open and realize you are worse off than before.

You can't honestly believe this.

When Obama took office, people were loosing their jobs and loosing their houses. I live in a nice area, 8th most safe city in California, and when Obama took office office exactly ten out of the twenty houses on my street were vacant because people couldn't afford their houses. Now every house is occupied and unemployment is down to 7%.

Clearly we are much better off than when Bush left office.

At this point the Republican party has become nothing more than petty school children pissed off that they lost homecoming twice in a row. The Republican party needs something to bitch about and something to complain about, so they try to create scandals like the IRS thing (nothing to do with the White House), the ATF gun thing (stared in 2006 before Obama took office), and then the Benghazi attack with seems to be about nothing at all....

No matter what your political slant, you cannot honestly believe that we are worse off than before. Then again, you never noticed how bad it got.

Robbie 01-12-2014 08:08 PM

I feel betrayed by the dems because they had complete control of the house and senate for decades and lined their pockets.

Then when they regained the house and Senate in 2006 after 12 years of republican majority..they did a fat bunch of nothing again.

Then Obama walked in and said no more secrecy, it was going to be the most transparent govt in history, gitmo would be shut down, 2009 was the "summer of recovery"
And he had the house and senate under dem control.

If the Democrat party really could do something it was then. They didn't even pass a budget.
Instead they proceeded to pass every pork barrel spending program that their cronies wanted and the moment passed.

So yes Mark, I'm very disgusted with both parties. They are all crooks in my opinion. It's the nature of power.

I believe if the Libertarian Party ever comes into power, it too will be a bunch of hypocritical crooks within a couple of years. :(

Robbie 01-12-2014 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19942865)

Clearly we are much better off than when Bush left office.
.

I agree with that. We are a bit better now than we were in the final 8 months of the Bush presidency.

We are nowhere close to how well off we were in the proceeding 7 years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton.

This is year 5 now past when Pres. Obama proclaimed the summer of 2009 as the "Summer Of Recovery" And his 1 trillion dollar stimulus as creating "shovel ready jobs"
:(

NEW XTC 01-12-2014 08:25 PM

I dont think Robbie or anyone I dont know is a racist - I do know that the Libertarians whole agenda is nearly identical to that of the White Nationalists. That doesnt mean that the individual is racist - it means that the policies of the political system would be disastrous for minorities. I have Libertarian friends that don't really think through or research the effect their own ideas would have on minorites if even the slightest Libertarian Principals would be applied in the US.

It's an interesting question - can a person be personally anti-racist but yet believe our government should move in a direction that would be radically advantageous for property owners? (the vast majority of inner city Black people dont own any property) - the answer is yes - guys like Robbie can love black people and yet want a Libertarian Government - but that doesnt mean the ideology is any less racist. Libertarianism isn't racist in intent but it is in application - it's basically exactly what we had after the American Revolution...that didn't go so well for the bruthas and sistas.





Advocating for strong states rights is the cornerstone of the Libertarian philosophy - thats great if you tried it in a state like Washington or New Hampshire or Oregon or Cali even...but Alabama? How about Mississippi the most racist state? Ron (or was it Rand) Paul even said they would allow restaurant owners to put up signs saying "No Nggrs"

Any Libertarian society that truly believes in independence for its citizens would have to allow them to serve to those who they want in their establishments - go on some White Power forums and you will see all these guys talking about how they are Libertarians how much they hate Jews. But there are lots of white Libertarians that are just nice normal non-racist people...BUT you can bet they pay mortgages...not rent. As racially divisive as the accumulated effects of Libertarianism would be - it's even far more classist.

NEW XTC 01-13-2014 10:36 AM

THE OTHER SHOE DROPS
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/politi...ing-sandy-ads/

Vendzilla 01-13-2014 01:05 PM

Everyone thinks this is about the bridge, no it isn't. The first person that poses a threat to Barry and Hilary in 2016 is a republican that works with the democrats. Either side can't have that, they have both worked too hard to separate the country and you idiots are buying it. The left leaning news agencies have spent way too much time on what a governor did or didn't do when the President of the US has scandals going off right and left and is getting away with it because he is getting people loyal to him to be the person investigating them and burying them.

There's Already 17 Times More Coverage on Christie Scandal Than in Last Six Months of IRS

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...#ixzz2qJMmbtxB

Why do you morons think that is?

crockett 01-13-2014 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19943458)

This is likely a Tea Party political assassination of him. He's been on their hit list ever since he was so public about thanking Obama for the support with Sandy and talked bad about the tea party. This is why all the other Republicans go along with the tea party nonsense. They don't want the target painted on their back.

Vendzilla 01-13-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19943583)
This is likely a Tea Party political assassination of him. He's been on their hit list ever since he was so public about thanking Obama for the support with Sandy and talked bad about the tea party. This is why all the other Republicans go along with the tea party nonsense. They don't want the target painted on their back.

I think it's more of the Obama administration using it's pull to go after any one that has a change against Hilary. I read the article, they question why he didn't pick the cheaper bid, that's all, it's about a decision.

Have to remember the Tea Party is not a party at all, they are comprised of thousands of groups with no real leader

NEW XTC 01-13-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19943577)
Everyone thinks this is about the bridge, no it isn't. The first person that poses a threat to Barry and Hilary in 2016 is a republican that works with the democrats. Either side can't have that, they have both worked too hard to separate the country and you idiots are buying it. The left leaning news agencies have spent way too much time on what a governor did or didn't do when the President of the US has scandals going off right and left and is getting away with it because he is getting people loyal to him to be the person investigating them and burying them.

There's Already 17 Times More Coverage on Christie Scandal Than in Last Six Months of IRS

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...#ixzz2qJMmbtxB

Why do you morons think that is?

Brilliant Vendzilla is calling us MORONS NOW?

You, fine sir..are a gullible TOOL...you're a pawn.

NOTHING gets more media coverage than scandals. Benghazi, IRS, ACA Website, NSA Spying...NONE OF THESE ARE SCANDALS. Mistakes made on Obama's watch? Yes. Scandals? NO

Your opinion is the product of massive and expensive efforts by Fox, and Koch's and other righty propaganda outlets to BUY and COERCE dicks like you into fighting for them...Their money was well spent, on you at least..they bought themselves another fat fuck with 25 pound cigar smoking hands and rings on every finger.

This Chris Christie thing is: THE END OF THE POLITICAL CAREER OF THE REPUBLICAN FRONTRUNNER FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA something like that would generally garner a lot of media dontcha think?

You can whine like a little girl all you want about the media coverage - live in your FAUX NEWS hate hole for the rest of your life...but you will never have fat fuck Criminal Christie for a Pres Candidate...he's more done than your grandmas butterball on Thanksgiving hahaha

Anyone want to lay a 1k wager that he survives this and even makes it to the FIRST presidential debate in '16? Lets go to escrow.

GregE 01-13-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19943583)
This is likely a Tea Party political assassination of him. He's been on their hit list ever since he was so public about thanking Obama for the support with Sandy and talked bad about the tea party. This is why all the other Republicans go along with the tea party nonsense. They don't want the target painted on their back.

Precisely.

crockett 01-13-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19943596)
I think it's more of the Obama administration using it's pull to go after any one that has a change against Hilary. I read the article, they question why he didn't pick the cheaper bid, that's all, it's about a decision.

Have to remember the Tea Party is not a party at all, they are comprised of thousands of groups with no real leader

I think you smoke too much crack pipe. No one thinks Christie has any chance of winning the next presidential election. Too many far right wing bats hate is guts for him to have a snowballs chance. He's just another Herman Cane that will be side lined early to mid way through. In other words canon fodder for whom ever will be the GOPs pick.

Vendzilla 01-13-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19943597)
Brilliant Vendzilla is calling us MORONS NOW?

You, fine sir..are a gullible TOOL...you're a pawn.

NOTHING gets more media coverage than scandals. Benghazi, IRS, ACA Website, NSA Spying...NONE OF THESE ARE SCANDALS. Mistakes made on Obama's watch? Yes. Scandals? NO

Your opinion is the product of massive and expensive efforts by Fox, and Koch's and other righty propaganda outlets to BUY and COERCE dicks like you into fighting for them...Their money was well spent, on you at least..they bought themselves another fat fuck with 25 pound cigar smoking hands and rings on every finger.

This Chris Christie thing is: THE END OF THE POLITICAL CAREER OF THE REPUBLICAN FRONTRUNNER FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA something like that would generally garner a lot of media dontcha think?

You can whine like a little girl all you want about the media coverage - live in your FAUX NEWS hate hole for the rest of your life...but you will never have fat fuck Criminal Christie for a Pres Candidate...he's more done than your grandmas butterball on Thanksgiving hahaha

Anyone want to lay a 1k wager that he survives this and even makes it to the FIRST presidential debate in '16? Lets go to escrow.

I posted facts, you called me names, that's all you got?

Vendzilla 01-13-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19943685)
I think you smoke too much crack pipe. No one thinks Christie has any chance of winning the next presidential election. Too many far right wing bats hate is guts for him to have a snowballs chance. He's just another Herman Cane that will be side lined early to mid way through. In other words canon fodder for whom ever will be the GOPs pick.

Obviously the liberal news agencies thought so, or they wouldn't have spent so much time on it.

This is how they work, they hammer the shit out of the conservatives.

Too bad, because the country suffers from getting any one that can lead

BFT3K 01-13-2014 04:03 PM

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Vendzilla 01-13-2014 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19943745)

How is that a Fox poll, it says Rasmussen right on it?

Vendzilla 01-13-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19943685)
I think you smoke too much crack pipe. No one thinks Christie has any chance of winning the next presidential election. Too many far right wing bats hate is guts for him to have a snowballs chance. He's just another Herman Cane that will be side lined early to mid way through. In other words canon fodder for whom ever will be the GOPs pick.

2016? Clinton 43%, Christie 41%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...43_christie_41

dyna mo 01-13-2014 04:24 PM

it's interdasting that all you fox news haters sure are tuned into the latest on fox news.

I don't talk shit about fox news because I don't watch fox news. Turn off your tv. :-)

EonBlue 01-13-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19942087)
Taking money away from the public school system will guarantee a dumber bunch of young adults who will have zero job skills.

Never mind public schools. The Universities are churning out more and more indoctrinated, brainwashed sheep of the marxist, far-left variety every year. Soon the US will be a one party state and you won't be allowed to have these arguments anymore. Leftists don't like anyone questioning their ideas so they just eliminate anyone who does.

Watch this video. It should raise some alarm bells for you but I'm doubtful you will see anything wrong with it and you will probably just attack the filmmaker.





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Originally Posted by NEW XTC (Post 19942359)
Conservatism is at its core: Pure Unadulterated Racism.

What an unbelievably ridiculous statement.

Watch the above video if you want to see "pure unadulterated racism". And it's not coming from conservatives.

clickhappy 01-13-2014 05:15 PM

This might be a fun mental exercise but you all know as well as I do that Chris Christie would never get the presidency anyways

1. No one wants a sweating morbidly obese president. He's difficult to look at and not being able to control his own eating will be talked about and seen as a mental instability and "having issues".
We haven't had an obese president or major world leader in the modern era. The closest was Bill Clinton.

As soon as Christie goes on the national microphone and the mic picks up on his heavy morbidly-obese breathing the public will be grossed out and not vote for him.

2. His family is a little chunky too, that will be seen as poor parenting and poor leadership.

3. He's too "Jersey" and his direct no-BS style works on the east coast, but that shit won't play in Ohio. He throws out nasty soundbites that the press can grab on to to demonize him. And in other parts of the country gonna say "What happened with that bridge?!?"

4. He once told people to take a bat to a 78 year old congresswoman. nice. That will NOT play in the midwest, south, or anywhere really.

5. He's anti Union and perceived as anti women. Good luck with that.

The only way he would win is if he immediately lost 150 pounds and had a mexican woman as his vp, but there are no mexican women republicans. Marco Rubio as his VP would be his only chance of winning that I could see.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-13-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19943577)

There's Already 17 Times More Coverage on Christie Scandal Than in Last Six Months of IRS

Why do you morons think that is?

Because we rely on sources other than Fox for our information. :winkwink:

"How the Media Outrageously Blew the IRS Scandal" - Bill Moyers

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Conservatives get one thing right about the media ? many of its members personally lean liberal. But what they get wrong is assuming that this translates to favorable coverage of Democrats. Often it?s the opposite.

Sensitive to criticism of bias and eager to prove their independence and objectivity, the mainstream media often seems to overcorrect by showing less mercy to Democratic administrations than they do to Republican ones.

Steve Almond, writing for Salon, argued that the IRS scandal was ?Whitewater all over again,? referring to the Clinton-era non-scandal scandal. No one cared when the IRS went after liberal groups like the NAACP and even progressive churches under George W. Bush.
It's like the Benghazi spin from Faux News/News Corpse:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-c...ad-smaller.jpg

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directfiesta 01-13-2014 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19944011)

This deserves more exposure !

Vendzilla 01-14-2014 09:39 AM

Why do liberals always fall back on well Bush did it, so it's ok, are you fucking kidding me?

In what fucking world is it OK for our politicians to ignore the safety of our embassies?

Seriously, what fucking idiot thinks that's ok? Answer please!!

Embassies have been getting attacked for a long time, under Reagan 3 embassies were attacked.
1 housing complex, 2 embassies and the USS Cole under Clinton.

I guess you guys forgot that, get a clue, it's not that they didn't bitch before, it's about time they finally did bitch! The big question is why isn't the Democrats saying anything? Do they not love their country?

Fucking praise for an administration that got lie of the year!! LOL

Vendzilla 01-14-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19944011)
Because we rely on sources other than Fox for our information. :winkwink:

"How the Media Outrageously Blew the IRS Scandal" - Bill Moyers


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Man, you should read the articles you post, there is a link on the article that goes to this
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/05/anot...andals_coffin/

The link indicates they are targeting other groups, click on that, the fact they are targeting groups using BOLO should have you pissed, but instead you are trying to use it like a shield for the abuse of power the POTUS is swinging around, they're targeting pro-medical marijuana groups! Are you ok with that?

Vendzilla 01-14-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19944018)
This deserves more exposure !

You're right, it's about time the politicians did something about it, not just the republicans or Fox, but everyone, why aren't you bitching about it?

This has been going on a long time, about time someone said enough! Cheers for Fox News and the Republicans for finally questioning it, why aren't the Democrats questioning it? Why isn't the liberal news outlets questioning it?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 01-14-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19944452)

Why do liberals always fall back on well Bush did it, so it's ok, are you fucking kidding me?

In what fucking world is it OK for our politicians to ignore the safety of our embassies?

Seriously, what fucking idiot thinks that's ok? Answer please!!

Embassies have been getting attacked for a long time, under Reagan 3 embassies were attacked.
1 housing complex, 2 embassies and the USS Cole under Clinton.

I guess you guys forgot that, get a clue, it's not that they didn't bitch before, it's about time they finally did bitch! The big question is why isn't the Democrats saying anything? Do they not love their country?

Fucking praise for an administration that got lie of the year!! LOL

I used the Bush example, simply to point out the hypocrisy, since it is undisputable that there were more such events, with greater loss of life under the previous Administration. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around in politics.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19944461)

Man, you should read the articles you post, there is a link on the article that goes to this
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/05/anot...andals_coffin/

The link indicates they are targeting other groups, click on that, the fact they are targeting groups using BOLO should have you pissed, but instead you are trying to use it like a shield for the abuse of power the POTUS is swinging around, they're targeting pro-medical marijuana groups! Are you ok with that?

I do read the articles that I post. The article concludes with:

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"No one is defending the use of BOLO lists ? as Weisman writes, ?even I.R.S. officials say lookout list warnings were often pursued in a ham-handed or overly rigid way? ? but the problem is that the IRS has no better way to differentiate between bona fide social welfare organizations that deserve tax exemption, and political groups hoping to exploit the tax-free status, so they used a kludgy workaround.
The matter was investigated, and changes were implemented, still the Teabaggers whine (which is about all they do).

This is especially true, when the subject is completely different, like this thread about malfeasance in the Chris Christie administration - things aren't going good for Christie, so shout IRS or Benghazi or birth certificate. That tired shit is played out already...just sayin'. :2 cents:

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Back on topic:

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BFT3K 01-14-2014 11:03 AM

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Vendzilla 01-14-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19944501)
I used the Bush example, simply to point out the hypocrisy, since it is undisputable that there were more such events, with greater loss of life under the previous Administration. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around in politics.

So why get pissed that someone is finally doing something about it? You should be applauding the efforts of Fox News and the Republicans for standing up and doing something about it and asking why the democrats aren't!


Quote:

I do read the articles that I post. The article concludes with:



The matter was investigated, and changes were implemented, still the Teabaggers whine (which is about all they do).
I saw where the IRS admitted for targeting conservative groups, they shouldn't be targeting anyone. PERIOD. I hear more whining about the Tea Party than from the Tea Party

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This is especially true, when the subject is completely different, like this thread about malfeasance in the Chris Christie administration - things aren't going good for Christie, so shout IRS or Benghazi or birth certificate. That tired shit is played out already...just sayin'. :2 cents:


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So you're saying that since a governor that admitted this was his fault, fired people that he deemed at blame, that the IRS crap is over? I'm sure Obama hopes so, considering the person that's investigating the matter contributed over $6000 to his campaign!

Here's what I'm holding him accountable for, just a small list

Signed stimulus without reading it.

Signed the ACA without reading it.

Had no idea the Fast and Furious was going on.
Had no idea the IRS was targeting Conservative groups.
Had no idea the NSA was doing things that were unconstitutional.

announced closing of Gitmo with no plan on how to do it

Lack of bipartisanship

Bill Ayers

Working with lobbyists after promising not to have any

apologizing to the world for anything American

Solyndra

unemployment

telling us to tighten our belts while he flies around the world every other week

appointing tax cheats

taking over of GM

bank bailouts then printing 85 billion a month to support them. I'm pissed at Bush about this too!

accusing Republicans of not having ideas of their own, then saying his door is open, yet Republicans were holding up their versions of a healthcare bill and he won't listen to it. Republicans had two versions of a healthcare bill.

ignoring TEA party protests as if they are ignorant. He is suppose to work for the people, they are the people

bowing to the Saudi King

Dismantling missile defense shields in Europe while Iran is on the brink of having nuclear arms.

Median Income for the US is down over 3k a year

2MuchMark 01-14-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19944519)

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2MuchMark 01-15-2014 07:00 AM

Not sure if anyone here is still paying attention to this mess, but things are about to get a whole lot worse for Chris Christie.

Rachel Maddow reports on another act of political retribution with a more direct connection to the Christie administration than the traffic closures in Ft. Lee. The new mayor of Jersey City claims that offers of help from the governor's office were abruptly cancelled after his decision not to endorse Chris Christie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...now_why.ht ml

Vendzilla 01-15-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19945512)
Not sure if anyone here is still paying attention to this mess, but things are about to get a whole lot worse for Chris Christie.

Rachel Maddow reports on another act of political retribution with a more direct connection to the Christie administration than the traffic closures in Ft. Lee. The new mayor of Jersey City claims that offers of help from the governor's office were abruptly cancelled after his decision not to endorse Chris Christie.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...now_why.ht ml

Is this all that this bitch has to talk about, Mayor tells GOVERNOR that he will not endorse the Governor, Governor then cancels meeting with Mayor, is that really the best this bitch has to offer?

I would have done the same thing, getting ready to do a big favor for a mayor, reaching out to the mayor and being told that, fuck him!

2MuchMark 01-31-2014 03:08 PM

Ruh Roh!

Just posted at http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1598234

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Gov. Chris Christie knew about George Washington Bridge lane closures during shutdown

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David Wildstein, through his attorney, released a letter that claimed "evidence exists... tying Mr. Christie to having knowledge of lane closures." The New Jersey governor emphatically denied having any role in the shutdown during a press conference earlier in January.
Looks like its curtains for Chris Christie. Too bad - I used to think that you were a cool dude.

2MuchMark 01-31-2014 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19945851)
Is this all that this bitch has to talk about, Mayor tells GOVERNOR that he will not endorse the Governor, Governor then cancels meeting with Mayor, is that really the best this bitch has to offer?

I would have done the same thing, getting ready to do a big favor for a mayor, reaching out to the mayor and being told that, fuck him!


Why are you calling Rachel Maddow a bitch? Why aren't you instead complaining about Fox News who tried to dismiss the story as nothing?

It's not only Maddow that is reporting the store - it is other reporters and even other news agencies that are reporting on it.

And don't forget it wasn't even MSNBC that broke this story. It was a newspaper.

And besides Vendy, It is starting to look like Chris Christie did alot more than just tie up traffic for a few days. It looks like he may now have held back disaster relief funds too.

Why do you want corrupt politicians in office?

Vendzilla for your own sake, take your head out of the sand. Stop believing everything you see on Fox News.

MediumPimpin 01-31-2014 03:34 PM

He's done, game over!

2MuchMark 01-31-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MediumPimpin (Post 19964993)
He's done, game over!

Yup, I'm afraid so...

MediumPimpin 01-31-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19965041)
Yup, I'm afraid so...

It's not all bad now,

Mitt Romney Is the 2016 Republican Front-Runner, lol you can't make this shit up!

Vendzilla 01-31-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19964973)
Why are you calling Rachel Maddow a bitch? Why aren't you instead complaining about Fox News who tried to dismiss the story as nothing?

It's not only Maddow that is reporting the store - it is other reporters and even other news agencies that are reporting on it.

And don't forget it wasn't even MSNBC that broke this story. It was a newspaper.

And besides Vendy, It is starting to look like Chris Christie did alot more than just tie up traffic for a few days. It looks like he may now have held back disaster relief funds too.

Why do you want corrupt politicians in office?

Vendzilla for your own sake, take your head out of the sand. Stop believing everything you see on Fox News.

Still waiting to see this evidence they claim to have about Christie

I'm calling Rachel a bitch,She got caught in a lie recently and refuses to retract it
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/01/08/msnbc...es-to-retract/


You do know that MSNBC has had to apologize for comments twice recently?
Melissa Harris-Perry, had to apologize to Mitt Romney
Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC Following Sarah Palin Comments.

So I think it's you that needs to get their collective head out of the sand and watch more than MSNBC to get your news, I do!

crockett 01-31-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19964971)
Ruh Roh!

Just posted at http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1598234



Looks like its curtains for Chris Christie. Too bad - I used to think that you were a cool dude.

I used to think he was a decent politician, but seems all his Skeletons are coming out of his closet. He seems to be as dirty as they come.


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