Come on man... no need to make this personal. Of course the Demoncrats screw up too. Clinton couldn't keep his pecker in his pants and Anthony Weiner loved to send pics of his little "Carlos Danger" to his girlfriends.. and here in Quebec the political landscape is ruled by separatists and corrupt mayors. Shit happens all over. It just happens that I have an interest - call it a hobby - of American politics, and I *think* being an outsider to your fine country gives me a different perspective. That's all.


Ouch!


I watched some of it during lunch and I agree. I think he's telling the truth when he says he didn't know. It seems really unlikely, but..

I'd offer a different reason. It's on MSNBC all day (and CNN, and alot on CTV), because its tending. Everyone is talking about it and everyone is tuning in which of course means more money for them. If Lindsay Lohan fell flat on her face and it was caught on camera people would be talking about that all day. Here's a seemingly great guy that everyone on both sides of the fence likes, who may have done something petty but that may cost him his career. It's interesting television.

I dont vote R or D but McCain fucked himself hard when he nominated that moron Palin for VP...It likely cost him the election

What makes yo uthink that?

Yes I attack the president on the the shit he does, but I have to give Christie a big hand on this one, he owned it and has already fired people.

Obama on the other hand has denied knowing anything about ANYTHING and that bitch Sebelius still has her job!!!!

her biggest failure or ruin, was her 2008 campaign. She underestimated her opponent & had no plan for after super tuesday. those subsequent caucus primaries where she had no organization cost her the presidency.

her second biggest ruin was her 1993 health care law. Her husband put her in total command of that. It was her big break, & it was a disaster.

there are smaller fish after that related to her career in arkansas, such as the destruction of the rose law firm & her investment in whitewater development corporation.

I am happy to hear what she has accomplished to compensate for all this failure.

:)

Worse than that, history will forevermore best remember him for that one brain dead decision.

vendzilla shows once again that his is fully immersed in fox news and doesnt even know that - if Christie were innocent he should have and would have fired her months ago - he owned it??? wow you are a true dumbfuck - he did nothing but deny deny deny...

the only thing you said correct is: that you have very big hands - no wonder you feel affinity for that fat fuck

Heard today that CBS, NBC, and ABC have given 17 times more news coverage to Christie and this local story then they did to Obama and the IRS targeting his political opponents.

It is kind of a double standard at play here.

When Nixon targeted his opponents using the IRS, the press was all over it.

I personally am sick and tired of all these politicians. They are all a bunch of crooks.

But the media is getting worse and worse each year.

Their JOB is to question the govt.

But they only seem interested in making one political party out to be "bad" and sucking up to the other one. (unless it's Fox News and then it's the reverse of the parties)

The IRS targets political opponents. Lies are told until the truth finally comes out.
No big deal to the media.

The Benghazi fiasco. Obama HIMSELF went on television (including on the Letterman show) and lied his ass off about it.
No big deal to the media.

The NSA spying...they stood in front of Congress and committed perjury and claimed that no Americans were being spied on.
No big deal.

But a Governor is involved in a political retribution scandal?
Hold the motherfucking presses!!!!
This is BIG news, and must be covered and analyzed over and over.

Nevermind that Pres. Obama claims Chicago (of all places...the most historically politically corrupt city in America) as his home base.

The media doesn't care about anything BUT Chris Christie and a traffic jam.

Pathetic.

Meanwhile the Fed keeps printing money so our dollar becomes more and more worthless (and then people yell about raising the minimum wage), the war continues in Syria, all hell is breaking loose in Iraq, North Korea continues to work toward a nuclear weapon...
but NOTHING is as important as a Governor VS a Mayor local feud.

:(

It's like "AnchorMan 2" coming to life.

EDIT: And oh yeah...just got a letter from Blue Cross Blue Shield: My premium is now $875 a fucking month for my family of 3
Thanks "Affordable" Health Care Act!

I am just curious why any quality citizen would take party that takes from hardworking/richer and gives to lazy over the party that does not punish people because they work harder and makes more money.

If you are loser and want a pie of what other hard working person earned you vote democrat.
If you are the one who wants to earn money and not be punished for earning more than average you vote republican.

Thats the major principle on what you should chose your party.

Bible, abortion, homo rights etc etc and other things are just minor things compared to the main principle on which a person should chose a party.

dude just leave...leave the US. Your beloved "fuck the poor" party of the rich is going extinct...fast...you guys will never ever again take the white house or any national elections because people like you are way too fucking stupid to exist - natural selection is breeding you out of existence - enjoy your grand obstruction party of assholes while you can...soon you guys will be powerless to even obstruct...buh bye

I agree to some extent. If you take society and divided it into quality people and leachers/handout seekers etc you would always have more of the latter. And they have parties that cater to them. So democrats will have bigger electorate.
Romney was correct on 47%, they are leaching orientated and always would vote for the party which is for punishing hard working and giving to lazy.

Wow, is that how you argue things?

I saw him on the news, the today show, Not Fox you moron, admit and apologize , then fire the person that was responsible.
Where is that wrong, fuck, I must be a moron magnet, I seem to get all the shit for brains attacking me!

mine mine mine gimme gimme gimee - you Retardpublicans only care about your and your fat McDonalds eating families..your ideology is bankrupt your party exists only in the backwater white trash holes of the south and midwest - you promote nothing but fear and smear and your channel (Fox) is populated with greedy evil lying hate mongers BUT HEY you want to KEEP your money right? nothing wrong with that right? Fuck all the dirty poor, brown, sick, young, old - get YOURS and keep it! hahaha

Try breathing into a bag

of course you didn't hear it on Fox - they haven't touched the story - everyone knows that...the only mention yesterday of the scandal on FOX was when Shepard Smith took 2 seconds to say "If you want to hear about the Christie office emails - then google it" hahaha thats IT - that was Foxes ONLY coverage.

You are so misinformed by Fox that you are only just now hearing about this - and your reaction that he has admitted something (he didn't) and apologized (chuckle) and you think that he has put this situation behind him? This is just the beginning of the end for Christie.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...ristie-scandal

the end of the political career of the Republican frontrunner for president (if he's lying) and no mention from FOX haha fair and balanced!

No kidding.
Hopefully he'll find a breath of reality in that bag... wtf...:disgust

The old saying is that when you're just starting out you're usually a Democrat.
Then when you start making real money...you turn into a Republican.
:)

OMG, No he didn't... didn't you watch any news today? He did just the opposite - he threw his own people under the bus.

That's because Robbie, The IRS did NOT target his opponents. It has been proven several times already. It's a non-scandal. It was proven that the IRS actually slapped more democratic groups than republican groups.

Robbie lives in the fact free Fox bubble too...he tries to act independent but spews bogus Fox news talking points in just about every thread....what you call an embarrassed republican - the worst kind.

If you had any idea of who I am in real life, you would understand two things:
1. I'm not embarrassed to do anything. I've done some insane shit. lol

2. I am exactly what I say I am...an ex-Democrat turned Libertarian.
I think all drugs should be legal, all marriages should be free to happen (including gay marriage) because the govt. shouldn't be telling you who you can marry, and the list goes on and on.

You'll never find a republican...much less an "embarrassed" one, that is anything like me.
I believe that people should be free...not live in anarchy of course...but free to decide how they live their lives with as little outside interference as is possible.

I'm gonna put you on "ignore" now. I have a rule that anybody on here who doesn't make me one thin dime or have the ability to make money with me, and yet insults me...gets put on ignore.

This forum may be called "go fuck yourself"...but it's still SUPPOSED to be an industry forum.

So thanks for being so elitist that you thought you could somehow pigeonhole another person. Typical bleeding heart liberal elitism I suppose.

I'll say one last thing to you before I go: You aren't even CLOSE to being what I think of as liberal. Your view points are skewed and controlled by the govt. and the media.
You are a Faux-Liberal, and the guys in Washington DC that you think are so great? They are laughing at you while they live like Kings.

Republicans and Democrat politicians are the RULING Class. And they are laughing at you.

In the entertainment business (in the old carny days), we call guys like you a "Mark".

You're the ones who can be manipulated and buy into whatever you're told.

Not trying to insult you. I hope one day when you get more experience in the world...that you will be smart enough to open your eyes. :)

But anyway, off to "ignore" with you.

I'm here to have discussions with folks who are my peers. You aren't.

One of the Christie cronies at the center of the unfolding scandal in New Jersey, David Wildstein, spoke at a government investigation hearing (sort of):



The panel cited Wildstein for contempt after he repeatedly invoked the 5th amendment, and refused to testify.

:stoned

ADG

I think you're way off base on that Mark.

Did the IRS go after ONLY conservatives? Of course not.

During Nixon's years they also went after people of both political leanings.

But did they go after Nixon's enemies SPECIFICALLY because they were his enemies?
Hell yes.

And in this last year, did they go after Obama's enemies SPECIFICALLY because they were his enemies?
Hell yes.

And now Eric Holder has appointed a fucking big political DONOR to Obama's campaign to head the damn investigation into this!!!!

Can you imagine if Nixon had tried that? The press would be all over it!

But Obama is getting away with it!

He's actually having a buddy and political crony run the investigation into the IRS!

But why is there an investigation? You seem to think it's a "non-story". lol

I guess even the Pres. and the head of the Dept. of Justice had to admit that it's very real. That's why they are doing the investigation.

But of course stacking the deck ahead of time...
If you or I tried to do that in real life? We would be thrown in jail.

Nobody but the govt. can actually get away with "investigating" themselves with their political money donor being appointed to head the investigation.

Brother, you have no idea how crooked these politicians are.

No, you are wrong, O'Reilly did a piece on it.
Quit trying to be so fucking stupid

People that were responsible for what happened, he apologized right? Someone got fired right? Did you want him to fire someone else? Did you want him not to apologize?

Where was it proven, please provide links if they exist?

Also the person heading up the investigation on the IRS scandal is a contributor of the Obama administration.

the head of the investigation is Barbara Kay Bosserman, ?a trial lawyer in the Justice Department who donated more than $6,000 to Mr. Obama?s 2008 and 2012 campaigns, as well as several hundred dollars to the national Democratic Party.?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffre...ation-big-thre

THE IRS ADMITTED TO TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS, what part of that don't you understand?

I think he's guilty.

fuck it, the democrat and republican parties both died a long time ago.

He knew it was happening way before now. He is lying. The mayor of fort lee has been screaming for awhile.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...ails_show.html

Actually it was based the on the scope of the question, the only group they actually pulled their status was a left wing group but facts dont go with the story in your head so fuck it. lol
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...utiny-too.html

This is a lot of nothing..just a democrat sponsored deflection from obamacare and the rest of obama's problems.

someone died because of it. If it was your family member would you feel that way?

Can someone help me understand how closing those lanes was political retribution or wtfever it's being claimed to be?

Close to 30,000 people die every year on the roads. Are you planning on carrying the banner for all of them? How many of those deaths are the cause of poor hiway and bridge maintenance?

The liberal media will keep the Christie story up front as long as possible.

I've just wrapped-up quite a bit of googling, I can't find anything that explains how shutting down the bridge lanes get even with the mayor for not endorsing the governor.

You should read the link you posted, it didn't name any groups that suffered other than the conservative groups

People have been screaming? He's a politician, he probably is lying, they all do. But he owned it, he apologized and fired someone in charge.

That bitch in charge of the Obamacare site is still in charge! Do you feel that any one that has done such a major fuck up should keep their job?

The only good news I can think of about this story is it knocked dennis rodman out of the news cycle.

I live in LA, I really don't care one fucking bit about a persons 3 hour commute when every time Obama comes to LA to campaign for more money, it fucks up the traffic here like a national disaster.

when you have a town that sits on one side of the worlds busiest bridge into the nations largest city - and you shut down the access to 1 single lane - you cause gridlock on a massive scale throughout the entire town - nearly every street was clogged and the whole city was paralyzed for 4 days (it's clear from the leaked transcripts that they intended it to go far beyond the 4 days)...that is about as bad as you could possibly fuck over a city/mayor.

apparently it took up to 4 hours for some people to get into NYC just a couple miles away - this is so dirty, so illegal, so petty...so STUPID that Christies political career is basically over - no way can he keep his henchmen gagged when they have already offered to turn on him for immunity...one more little revelation implicating him and he will lose any hope of higher office and most likely have to resign as Governor

That doesn't fuck over the mayor at all.

+ by all the latest news reports, as long as nothing definitive emerges connecting Christie directly to the bruhaha, his political career wil continue.

I just looked it up, that mayor isn't up for re-election for quite a while

I'm not seeing how tieing up traffic for a week would impact voting over a year later, not to mention guarantee anything. That's quite a leap in logic and political strategery imo.

not sure what your angle is that you want to deny reality on this... you one of those Fox programmed teapublican brainwash victims or something?

A mayors primary job is to keep his town running smoothly - first day of school and kids were in cars/buses 3-4 hours to get to school - the whole city of Fort Lee was jammed solid and nothing is more maddening that gridlock traffic - I can't think of many things that could fuck a mayor up more than this shit - he was calling and emailing and begging for an explanation from day one and their smug texts to each other proves they were enjoying letting the mayor twist in the wind google the "radio silence" quote - there was a calculated plot to cause mayhem in Fort Lee. One email exchange referred to Sokolich as the ?little Serbian? and ?an idiot.? Another called the schoolchildren stranded in buses ?the children of Buono voters.?

Any sane person can easily see Christie is lying through his fat fucking cheeks when he says he has no knowledge of this - his press conference was so full of holes and obvious half truths...he ordered the lanes closed and everyone knows it - the thought that his closest advisers conspired to do this crime on their own is laughable.

Yes his political career will continue IF he has sufficiently engendered loyalty from his henchmen for them to let their professional lives be ruined, their future job prospects non-existent, and they have the balls to sit under oath and either lie or plead the 5th - this is going to be very fun to see that cunt Kelley take the stand and protect her monstrous boss who just savaged her and threw her under a moving train.

I can just imagine the phone call he made to her on a burner phone "Listen Brigit, I know this sucks, I know it wasn't your idea Honey - but I need you to take one for the team right now - I need you to fall on your sword for me. And I promise when I become president in '16 and I WILL become President in '16 you will be right there by my side - Chief of Staff to the President of the United States..how does that sound. All you have to do is take the stand and plead the 5th baby..and we will get though this..otherwise it could be jail for you and me...:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm more than happy and quite capable of making this personal ,dipshit.


The simple fact is you are talking out of your ass.

Just think of the bridge going from 4 lanes down to 1 lane as a blackout that affects 3/4ths of your city, your private businesses, schools, everything. How much money does that equal?
Or just think of reports when there's a natural disaster when they talk about how much money it costs the city each day. That's how it was retribution; in the pocketbook.

I can certainly understand the revenue damage on the local economy, but that damage would impact Christie, he represents the area also. This seems more like schoolyard bully bullshit, especially with the sophmoric email chuckles being sent.

that too but I think it was entertainment for Christie and his Capos - they probably sat around watching the local Fort Lee news of the gridlock and laughed their asses off.

Whats really fucked up is that they planned it to go much longer than 4 days and were "appropriately going nuts" when someone opened up lanes...then they retaliated for that action:

Sept. 13. Wildstein email to Kelly, apparently after a Port Authority executive from New York discovered the lane closures and halted them: "The New York side gave Fort Lee back all three lanes this morning. We are appropriately going nuts. (Port Authority chairman David) Samson helping us to retaliate."

—Kelly: "What?"

—Wildstein: "Yes, unreal. Fixed now."


I wonder exactly how long they had planned for - at least a week, maybe more.

Now this Kelly chick - she could stand to make a great deal of money with a book deal - huge primetime interviews for big money will be offered to her...how much backbone she has to stay quiet will be very interesting to watch. She holds a potential presidents entire future in her little pinky...I say she cracks and goes for the money - hell Christie trashed her so bad yesterday she is now un-employable.

Hey Robbie,

Are you following this situation?...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1130649

It's pretty sick!

There is always more to the story...

http://aattp.org/busted-rachel-maddo...ref_map=%5B%5D

Rachel Maddow is full of shit. She is the liberals version of Rush Limbaugh

next..

Facts are facts, regardless of who delivers them. :2 cents: