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jhen · 02-26-2003, 05:53 PM

There was meeting some months back where in the room were some named in this thread and more. The unity to fight this is what willultimately allow the plantiff to crumble. The fighting spirit in that room that day was truly something to marvel.

Good Luck and God speed

nevermind · 02-26-2003, 06:12 PM

This section of the article is particularly interesting. Looks like they've lost their previous court cases:

"DMT isn't the only technology by which Acacia has stepped toward what its critics call "profit by litigation." The company also acquired the V-Chip technology when it bought out SoundView Technologies. Almost immediately, Acacia launched similar patent-infringement claims involving the V-Chip, according to the Orange County Register. Those claims led to more than a dozen television manufacturers paying the one-time licensing fee, filling Acacia?s coffers with some $24.1 million in 2001 revenues, the Register said - a whopping jump from $100,000 in revenue the year before.

Other television manufacturers went to court - and Acacia lost. The Register said in December that the company is working an antitrust case claiming the winning manufacturers "colluded" to duck V-Chip licensing fees."

Snake Doctor · 02-26-2003, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clickpimp
Acacia is also taking on Global Reach as one of the first named companies. This will be an interesting scuffle. GR is no stranger to patent fights.

According to the AVN article, Global Reach is one of the companies that settled and entered into a licensing agreement with Acacia.

Far-L · 02-26-2003, 09:25 PM

Proud to say that Matrix has stepped up to fight this with us.

Many thanks to those who will help with donations because I know this fight will be expensive... but much more so of course if Acacia prevails!

At the risk of cheesy spam, but with due sincerity under the circumstances, supporting any of the companies in the new defense organization by being a customer or becoming one is greatly appreciated. These companies are protecting all of you from having to pay as well. Remember, Acacia wants our customer lists so they can charge you a licensing fee too!!!

If you want to support the content companies that do license to Acacia, then please don't be surprised when you get a little package that spells out what you are supposed to pay a company called Acacia.

I will make sure to announce each and every company that is spending their hard earned money to defend all of us in this matter and I am always available if anyone has questions about becoming part of the solution here. (Farrell 206-391-6509)

Matt_WildCash · 02-26-2003, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
Well, Acacia is also naming us, Homegrownvideo.com in their lawsuit.

http://www.avn.com/articles/11795.html

That was a serious statement made by Spike here. We are going to spend a lot of money, and time on this. Because we were one of the first 39 companies contacted by Acacia, we are hoping we can be the first to to court, and WIN the lawsuit, setting the standard for every court to follow.

It's not my place to post any information on what we are doing, but I did want to let everyone know that we are fighting.

Has anyone else been named in this suit yet?

Good on you man, I have a lot of respect for your company if your willing to put yourself and your money on the line for setting such a large standard for the rest of us. We should all support Homegrownvideo.

Give them hell!

Mutt · 02-26-2003, 10:06 PM

They name the 8 adult companies who have agreed to pay their licensing fees.

Man it seems such a waste of alot of money that each company will have to fight the same lawsuit on its own. Once one suit is underway can't a lawyer go to a judge and ask him to delay a case until the first case is concluded? Seems practical to me, save the taxpayer money and resources too.

How will the fund to help raise money for legal defense be set up? Like if Homegrown is fighting in California, at the same time Lightspeed could be fighting the same suit in Arizona. So who gets the money from the fund to help pay legal costs?

Read the article, look how much they want those greedy parasites - not just a simple licensing fee of say $2500 or even $25,000 a year - they want a percentage of GROSS revenues - in this business that would be insane, not even worth being in business if Acacia was allowed a % of gross sales.

good luck Homegrowners

FlyingIguana · 02-26-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Homegrownvideo
Well, Acacia is also naming us, Homegrownvideo.com in their lawsuit.

http://www.avn.com/articles/11795.html

That was a serious statement made by Spike here. We are going to spend a lot of money, and time on this. Because we were one of the first 39 companies contacted by Acacia, we are hoping we can be the first to to court, and WIN the lawsuit, setting the standard for every court to follow.

It's not my place to post any information on what we are doing, but I did want to let everyone know that we are fighting.

Has anyone else been named in this suit yet?

hopefully some of the larger sites on the net back you. we need to beat these fuckers because once they get a judgement going their way, the shit will hit the fan and it won't be pretty.

FlyingIguana · 02-26-2003, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by m0rph3us
haha 2% year right. Let's see them try to get 2% of ARS or 2% of TimeWarner or Microsoft. LOL

if they went after microsoft, bill gates would probably just buy out the company.

FlyingIguana · 02-26-2003, 10:32 PM

can someone fill me in on what exactly their patents include? they say there's alternative technologies that sites can use. what would these be?

Hooper · 02-26-2003, 10:43 PM

who the hell is global reach? just need to make sure we're not inadvertently sending them traffic, money, etc..etc..

any idea who they do business as?

Brujah · 02-26-2003, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper
who the hell is global reach? just need to make sure we're not inadvertently sending them traffic, money, etc..etc..

any idea who they do business as?

xxx.com

picindex · 02-26-2003, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

xxx.com

diff from the last tiem I saw it...

what else do they run?

Brujah · 02-26-2003, 11:00 PM

freehost.xxx.com I think and rankhigh.com ?

Brujah · 02-26-2003, 11:17 PM

www.xpleasures.com

BigFish · 02-27-2003, 01:27 AM

Maybe you should keep an eye out on how this case goes: http://reuters.com/financeNewsArticl...toryID=2295555

Far-L · 02-27-2003, 01:49 AM

Everyone will have to come to California to fight it unless they want to spend heavily to bring it local. The idea of the group is to share the burden of the defense as much as possible.

I am not an attorney and cannot speculate on what the court will do but I do know that big stupid cases that clog the courts have a tendency to piss off judges who would rather not waste time either. The court in Orange County, so I have heard, is already overwhelmed with cases and tries hard to achieve time saving strategies. Maybe there will be a stay on the other cases, I hope, but I don't know for sure.

We hope that Lightspeed will join us. I don't think any company would want to take something like this on alone. Conservative estimates for fighting all the way through on this run in the millions.

02-26-2003, 05:53 PM	#51
jhen Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 156	There was meeting some months back where in the room were some named in this thread and more. The unity to fight this is what willultimately allow the plantiff to crumble. The fighting spirit in that room that day was truly something to marvel. Good Luck and God speed __________________ jhen How would you like One Wilshire behind your business

02-26-2003, 09:25 PM	#54
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Proud to say that Matrix has stepped up to fight this with us. Many thanks to those who will help with donations because I know this fight will be expensive... but much more so of course if Acacia prevails! At the risk of cheesy spam, but with due sincerity under the circumstances, supporting any of the companies in the new defense organization by being a customer or becoming one is greatly appreciated. These companies are protecting all of you from having to pay as well. Remember, Acacia wants our customer lists so they can charge you a licensing fee too!!! If you want to support the content companies that do license to Acacia, then please don't be surprised when you get a little package that spells out what you are supposed to pay a company called Acacia. I will make sure to announce each and every company that is spending their hard earned money to defend all of us in this matter and I am always available if anyone has questions about becoming part of the solution here. (Farrell 206-391-6509) __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

02-26-2003, 10:06 PM	#56
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	They name the 8 adult companies who have agreed to pay their licensing fees. Man it seems such a waste of alot of money that each company will have to fight the same lawsuit on its own. Once one suit is underway can't a lawyer go to a judge and ask him to delay a case until the first case is concluded? Seems practical to me, save the taxpayer money and resources too. How will the fund to help raise money for legal defense be set up? Like if Homegrown is fighting in California, at the same time Lightspeed could be fighting the same suit in Arizona. So who gets the money from the fund to help pay legal costs? Read the article, look how much they want those greedy parasites - not just a simple licensing fee of say $2500 or even $25,000 a year - they want a percentage of GROSS revenues - in this business that would be insane, not even worth being in business if Acacia was allowed a % of gross sales. good luck Homegrowners __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

02-26-2003, 10:43 PM	#60
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	who the hell is global reach? just need to make sure we're not inadvertently sending them traffic, money, etc..etc.. any idea who they do business as? __________________ <a href="http://www.adultplatinum.com/"><img src="http://www.adult.com/wmbanners/10dcash-468x60.gif"></a>

02-26-2003, 11:00 PM	#63
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	freehost.xxx.com I think and rankhigh.com ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-26-2003, 06:12 PM	#52
nevermind Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 276	This section of the article is particularly interesting. Looks like they've lost their previous court cases: "DMT isn't the only technology by which Acacia has stepped toward what its critics call "profit by litigation." The company also acquired the V-Chip technology when it bought out SoundView Technologies. Almost immediately, Acacia launched similar patent-infringement claims involving the V-Chip, according to the Orange County Register. Those claims led to more than a dozen television manufacturers paying the one-time licensing fee, filling Acacia?s coffers with some $24.1 million in 2001 revenues, the Register said - a whopping jump from $100,000 in revenue the year before. Other television manufacturers went to court - and Acacia lost. The Register said in December that the company is working an antitrust case claiming the winning manufacturers "colluded" to duck V-Chip licensing fees."

02-26-2003, 10:32 PM	#59
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	can someone fill me in on what exactly their patents include? they say there's alternative technologies that sites can use. what would these be?

02-26-2003, 11:17 PM	#64
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	www.xpleasures.com __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

02-27-2003, 01:27 AM	#65
BigFish Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,159	Maybe you should keep an eye out on how this case goes: http://reuters.com/financeNewsArticl...toryID=2295555

02-27-2003, 01:49 AM	#66
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Everyone will have to come to California to fight it unless they want to spend heavily to bring it local. The idea of the group is to share the burden of the defense as much as possible. I am not an attorney and cannot speculate on what the court will do but I do know that big stupid cases that clog the courts have a tendency to piss off judges who would rather not waste time either. The court in Orange County, so I have heard, is already overwhelmed with cases and tries hard to achieve time saving strategies. Maybe there will be a stay on the other cases, I hope, but I don't know for sure. We hope that Lightspeed will join us. I don't think any company would want to take something like this on alone. Conservative estimates for fighting all the way through on this run in the millions. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."