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Old 02-19-2003, 02:45 PM   #1
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Traffic Wars I - Choker's Challenge

This is a first time program announcement, and a challenge to all the guys cloning my programs. After 3 weeks of beta testing my new cash/traffic back for sending to my galleries program is ready. Galleryspots II http://www.galleryspots.com/sell_gs2.html
Simply put TGP's get return traffic/cash based on the productivity of the traffic they send to galleries. Some TGP's get up to 20% back to their TGP or $100 per 100k raws they send to galleries. Some get 1/5th that. It all depends on the quality of the TGP's traffic.

The Challenge Part:

Any TGP using one of my competitors, I challenge you to try my new system. In return you will get 5000 FREE uniques to your TGP just for trying my new system out. Signup here http://www.galleryspots.com/sell_gs2_signup.html
After you sign up you will go to a page with the gallery linking urls. Put a few up on your tgp. The first 20 TGP's that send at least 1000 hits to the galleries, post here the other program you are using (my competitor) your CTTS username, TGP url you signed up with this new system, and I will credit you 5000 free hits to your TGP. Please note this is in addition to the traffic you will get back just from linking these galleries. If after this test you want to use this new program and want cash back instead of traffic, just message me in CTTS and I will set this up for you. This 5k free traffic is not valid for TGP's already using this system. All you guys are already getting back more traffic than your actual productivty.

To My competition:

I challenge anyone to match my traffics clicks per dollar spent. If you are up to the challenge, let's set it up. Let's make it interesting and put up $500 or $1000 each and the winner takes all.

BTW I have several more projects being beta tested. There will be more free traffic giveaways soon.
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:47 PM   #2
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:48 PM   #3
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ohhhhhh shit. Can we have a recap on the hahahahahahahaha situation please? What happened with that?
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:49 PM   #4
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:51 PM   #5
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ohhhhhh shit. Can we have a recap on the hahahahahahahaha situation please? What happened with that?
Let's just say that I and Pdog are cool now
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Choker,

Can you recap for us how you determine the productivity of the traffic TGPs send to you?

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Old 02-19-2003, 02:53 PM   #7
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Choker,

Can you recap for us how you determine the productivity of the traffic TGPs send to you?

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LOL, why so you can copy me again?
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:55 PM   #8
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LOL, why so you can copy me again?
mee yow
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:56 PM   #9
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I guess at least part of your post is aimed at us Choker, though we aren't particularly 'cloning' your program... hell, I've even told people to give you a try and see how you do for them... http://www.shutthefuckup.com/showthr...=&threadid=297

I'm sure you will see, and understand, in the coming weeks, how we are headed in a different direction as we have already. Our focus is on resellers being paid in real money for their traffic, and buyers paying in real money for their traffic. We are not about creating more tgps, jerking around the surfer, etc. By making the decision to pay on unique and cull out the junk, we offer the buyer something of greater value, and the sellers realize a better return on their investment with us as well.

If you were not referring to Spotbrokers.com then you can consider this irrelevant to your thread
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:56 PM   #10
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LOL, why so you can copy me again?
Alright, you won't so I will. I gave you the chance to speak up.

For all readers - the productivity of the traffic is determined thusly:

The amount of times the traffic clicks on CHOKERs headers and footers.

Sounds great doesn't it? Yes, the TGPs that send surfers that DON'T click on the gallery get rewarded with traffic back.

Anyone who has profiled foreign traffic knows how much Chinese and other worthless surfers like to click. Especially when they can't read anything on the page anyway.

Sounds like a great deal for your gallery buyers, Choker.

Doesn't matter anyway, we still pay more than you. Come back and try again when you can compete.

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Old 02-19-2003, 02:58 PM   #11
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Doesn't matter anyway, we still pay more than you. Come back and try again when you can compete.
Wow you put me in my place.
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Old 02-19-2003, 02:59 PM   #12
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:00 PM   #13
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choker is the innovator evryone else are the immitators

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HAaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:00 PM   #14
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:01 PM   #15
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To My competition:

I challenge anyone to match my traffics clicks per dollar spent. If you are up to the challenge, let's set it up. Let's make it interesting and put up $500 or $1000 each and the winner takes all.


Put up or shut up.
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Let me know when you find some competition Choker, since *I* don't consider you to be ours.
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Let me know when you find some competition Choker, since *I* don't consider you to be ours.
I put my money where my mouth is. Can't you?
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Sure I can Choker, if I want to use iframes, headers, footers and galleries that the big tgps like Shemp don't care for. I could change my count from unique to raw, send my buyers a bunch of crap traffic that can't sign up with a credit card and probably can't use a dialer to join either.

You do the math.
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:11 PM   #25
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Why can't someone just use both systems?
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Why can't someone just use both systems?
Beats me Fatpad... I guess I look like a fool for suggesting it as well on that shutthefuckup.com forum.
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Sure I can Choker, if I want to use iframes, headers, footers and galleries that the big tgps like Shemp don't care for. I could change my count from unique to raw, send my buyers a bunch of crap traffic that can't sign up with a credit card and probably can't use a dialer to join either.

You do the math.
Well I am offering you a chance to prove once and for all your claims. I am not bashing your program like you are doing to mine. I am challenging you to put up or shut up.
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Why can't we all just get along?
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:16 PM   #29
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee HAaaaaaaaaaaaaa

innovator of a hi-bred CJ?

I never really got it, but it must be kicking ass for him so




as for the cloners or people trying to imrpove on it

to you too....competition is good for the game...
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:18 PM   #31
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not to disrespect choker, but that's like saying almost any adult paysite is an immitator........or any site for that matter.
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I bought some traffic from spotbrokers and it worked out well. They filtered out all the junk traffic and I didn't get charged for any of it. The traffic I did get was good quality even for tgp traffic. Very professional setup they have there. I would definitely use them again.
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Sure I can Choker, if I want to use iframes, headers, footers and galleries that the big tgps like Shemp don't care for. I could change my count from unique to raw, send my buyers a bunch of crap traffic that can't sign up with a credit card and probably can't use a dialer to join either.

You do the math.
This shit is really getting retarded. First of all if you are referring to Chokers gallery spots as jerking people around you are mistaken. I say his old system jerks people around. Most people say that. But I have looked at gallery spots and from what I gather none of that traffic is jerked around. They all come from clicks on a gallery spot not from anything else. Where the hell else are they supposed to come from.

Second, I could give a rats ass where either of you get your traffic from. If I spend $500 on each program and make a profit on both I would use both. I don't care if one made a $50 profit and the other made $500. I would buy more and more from both. As far as I could tell KimmyKim your new program is limited in the traffic it could send. If I ever bought any traffic from you and it produced I would max you out on what you could send. Choker has more available traffic but the same goes for his program. If I made a profit on it I would buy as much as I could afford until I was buying as much as he could possibly send. Every time his system comes up you jump in and badmouth him. I haven't used either of the systems but I planned on using both soon. Regardless of what anyone has to say about either of them I wouldn't buy traffic more than 2 or 3 times if it didn't profit. I don't give a shit who counts uniques, who counts raws, who jerked what, who liked who, who gives away TGP's, blah blah fucking blah.

None of it fucking matters if you are making a profit on your investment. Get the fuck over it.
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it seems like we're trying to compare apples & oranges here.

i currently dont use either system, but here's what i gather:

choker - buys/sells raw; doesnt filter out shit traffic (productive to some, not to others)

spotbrokers - buys/sells unique; filters off shit traffic

these are two completely different things... i think it is impossible to say one is better than the other.

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They can Fatpad. Unlike some others, I got where I am by working my ass off and not bashing my competition. I am simply releasing a new program and will give free traffic to TGP's that use my competitions programs if they try my new program. KK and Backov have nothing to fear from me. Afterall I am no competition to them.
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innovator of a hi-bred CJ?

I never really got it, but it must be kicking ass for him so




as for the cloners or people trying to imrpove on it

to you too....competition is good for the game...
I have YET to see ANYBODY prove the statement that they're pulling out of their ass that choker's traffic is "circle jerk"

I bought 500K gallery hits this month and it's kicking ass. I'll buy a million next month and on from there....

I'm not even going to say that y'all don't know what you're talking about because you DO. You're just calling it CJ traffic just because you want to make an argument...
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I have YET to see ANYBODY prove the statement that they're pulling out of their ass that choker's traffic is "circle jerk"

I bought 500K gallery hits this month and it's kicking ass. I'll buy a million next month and on from there....

I'm not even going to say that y'all don't know what you're talking about because you DO. You're just calling it CJ traffic just because you want to make an argument...
I am almost positive they are referring to his traffic trade for TGP's. I would call that traffic jerked around but it doesn't even matter. From everything I have looked at his gallery spot traffic comes only from gallery links from thousands of tgp's. No headers, no footers, no misleading links, nothing. I don't think half the people saying that have even read how the new system works.
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I have YET to see ANYBODY prove the statement that they're pulling out of their ass that choker's traffic is "circle jerk"

I bought 500K gallery hits this month and it's kicking ass. I'll buy a million next month and on from there....

I'm not even going to say that y'all don't know what you're talking about because you DO. You're just calling it CJ traffic just because you want to make an argument...
I am? When did you start reading minds BVF? (Cleo that you?)



I never meant that term in disrespect for his setup/traffic etc...


I never said CJ was shit, or horrible or anything else...I have known quite a few that made some good fucking money off of CJ...


it just sounds like it's recycled traffic, which is the main concept of traffic trading/cj whatever you wanna call it....it's recycled...

and the bottom line is that if it makes money then ROCK ON!

I'm all for that...


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Old 02-19-2003, 03:29 PM   #39
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I am almost positive they are referring to his traffic trade for TGP's. I would call that traffic jerked around but it doesn't even matter
This "jerked around" traffic is what I challenge anyone to match click per dollar. If it is so jerked around why is it so productive on TGP's that buy it?
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:32 PM   #40
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Someone find the words circle jerked traffic in one of MY posts referring to Choker and I'll give you fifty bucks.

It's that simple.

dumbass, oh wait, I mean stocktrader, you need to work on your reading comprehension skills. Choker comes along with his claims of bringing sponsor programs to their knees with his Napoleon complex ass and I make fun of him. He talks about his world domination of raw tgp traffic he's working with and I make fun of him.

I point out the obvious differences in Chokers system -- AFTER someone icq'd me complaining about those very same things -- the iframes, headers, footers and you decide I'm the bad guy. Awwww, that's too bad.

I'm also the one who has not said to a soul DONT USE CHOKER -- I have suggested that people compare for themselves.

We have repeat buyers already so I guess we are doing something right. People that are interested in getting traffic in exchange for their traffic SHOULD be using Choker. People that are interested in getting money for their traffic will need to make their own choice.

As for the buyers, it's entirely up to them what they prefer.
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:33 PM   #41
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This "jerked around" traffic is what I challenge anyone to match click per dollar. If it is so jerked around why is it so productive on TGP's that buy it?
I see. Didn't mean anything by it but I remember the argument on your last thread about your gallery spot traffic. Am I wrong to say that the traffic to paid gallery spots only comes from actual gallery links on TGP's? I wouldn't consider that jerked at all.

I could care less where you or anyone gets their traffic. If I purchase from anyone it is extra traffic. If it makes a profit I keep buying, if not I don't.
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KimmyKim you are nothing more than a backstabbing, lying bitch. You have from day one done nothing but talk shit about me and my programs, then you go and pretty much clone my system to the T. Every post about me you have to get in a cheap shot and spam your program. Want me to dig up all the threads? I have not badmouthed your program to make mine look better like you have mine. That is the difference between me and you.
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Come now Choker, I thought I was a narcisstic arrogant bitch, make up your mind.
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Why all the Choker bashing all the time. The guy has developed a great system that makes him money. Maybe people are jealous?
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KimmyKim you are nothing more than a backstabbing, lying bitch....

....I have not badmouthed your program to make mine look better like you have mine. That is the difference between me and you.
personal attacks are way more fun.
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KimmyKim you are nothing more than a backstabbing, lying bitch. You have from day one done nothing but talk shit about me and my programs, then you go and pretty much clone my system to the T. Every post about me you have to get in a cheap shot and spam your program. Want me to dig up all the threads? I have not badmouthed your program to make mine look better like you have mine. That is the difference between me and you.

choker obviously hasn't learned yet that it's usually suicide to attack kimmykim.
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choker obviously hasn't learned yet that it's usually suicide to attack kimmykim.
He's throwing another tantrum. I love those
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