Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen mention of Paypal yet...? I'm about to add it as another billing option to my sites.

Agreed, they have the korean and euro cornered.. however they lost our biz when they refused to remove visa/mc as a billing option from their join forms because we dont want to settle across borders.

They then proceeded to send us a "setup" invoice for 500 bucks when we told them that we couldnt use them if that was the case.

and btw.. i hope nobody gets the mis-impression that i'm lambasting them... if they do.. they are mistakenly taking things "personally"

nobody ever improves without criticism and what i have posted here is largely just excerpts of what i have already repeatedly told each of those billing companies directly :-)

For the benefit of non-US webmasters...

Anyone want to comment on AC Pay or Paypal?

Comments from actual users please :)

I never thought for one moment that you were taking the piss out of anyone in particular Hooper - especially with comments like "AC Pay - Good idea 3 years ago.. they arent an IPSP so you'll get fucked if you use them " (LMOA)

Your a funny bugger - truly Evil :thumbsup

Daniel & Kimmy,

Great words you have both written above.

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Corvett,

It was great meeting you in Vegas. Looking forward to seeing you in April.


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TheJimmy,

Can you ICQ me please? 117496436

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Hooper,

No offense taken by anyone, I'm sure.

Mitch

Hey Kimmy, we have a fan club of one - Mitch from Netbilling (lmao)

wow... never seen *anyone* speak these words here before, stay away from iBill if you want to actually get checks and such..

I thought Ibill, CCBILL and Epoch were all the same company. Owned by intercept I thought. If they aren't, I would give them each a try, I'm just afriad their whole house could come tumbling down and bring down all three at once. That would suck ass. I really need to find a good third party processor, but this seems way too hard a choice for any mere mortal.

definitely not..

50 :thumbsup

We use our own merchant account and have for 7 years.

We do use Paypal as a second processor and have for more than a year. Paypal is the best way we have found to accept checks, we have rarely had an NSF from them.

I would NOT suggest Paypal as a primary prcessor but adding them to the mix is a good idea lot's of people have money from auctions in those accounts and spend it freely. Their rates are also very low. But be ready for the $1,500 high risk merchant fee.

Absofuckinglutely not

Paypal sucks.

How come what ibill doing better conversation then ccbill?
anyone can explain it???

I'm planning to jump to ccbill, but now, disappointed.
:(

Kimmy, do you have ICQ?

Forfuckssake, absofuckinglutely nofuckingway

Fuck :Graucho

You might want to trim that sig of yours HardProfits.

Use them all. Use MPA2!!!

:2 cents:

Are you guys integrated with Netbilling yet? They are our primary and never have a problem. We pass declines to PSW though.

LMK

Sputter

I've spoken with some webmasters about Probilling and they seem to be happy. I've seen only a few general comments about them here on this thread. Has anyone here used them and if so, what's your opinion on their service and services?? Please feel free to elaborate on your answer.

Stay as far away from ProBilling as you can!

1)Last November, they lost their merchant account.
2)Last December, they started doing such heavy scrubbing that over 90% of ALL credit cards submitted were rejected.
3)A friend of mine is being charge over $1700.00 because probilling said they didn't get paid for his memberships from last December & January. When you don't even know if you are collecting money from your bank, how competent can you be? And then to say the webmaster has to pay them back for their screw up is ridiculous!

They are fucking INCOMPETENTS! They make WSB look like wunderkinds!