axel77

Iam tired of deleting our videos from message boards, and from site like rapidshare....
Members just steal everything and upload it everywhere...Is there option how do
defense it?

DRM or just don't let them download any videos? Is getting worst .....

Thanks

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lucas131

members dont steal, members accounts got hacked and published by hackers, stolen by uploaders who rip your site and upload them to file sharing services to make money have luck in your fight!

axel77

I wonder how much these people make, to get their time doing this crap....

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GetSCORECash

Pennies, but it adds up fairly quickly.

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lucas131

yes pennies, 10 cents for 1000 downloads? but i bet most of them are students and any dollars made on college is good and they are pimps imho

axel77

Well, members areas get protected now, members can barely share their passwords...
Is not like 9 years ago....Pennywize or others works well...

But some members doing crap, Iam sure.

The new fight will be, don't let them download anything......

Streaming, and if they want to watch later again, in months they will
have to join again....

Easy

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BFT3K

People are too civilized today. The time is coming for heads to begin rolling... literally!

"Hey, did you hear Fred started a file sharing site?"

"Yeah, his widow just told me about it."

That's how it should fucking be!

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Sharing sites are history if AK goes viral

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lucas131

yes, but you think hackers have still the same skills? they are now hacking databases, emails, billing systems, its not like bruteforce some old combolist from google ... i dont believe people who pay and want to support your site will rip it and share it, at least as far i know it doesnt works like that ...

dgraves

It's an unfortunate part of the business and I have to dedicate a certain amount of time each week to manage it.

I just recently caught a member from France who was ripping my videos and posting them on pornbb via rapidgator. It took some work to catch him but I finally did and reported him to CCBill fraud to get him on the blacklist.

He's been a member for a year now and has been sharing my content the entire time. Once Oron got shut down he moved to RapidShare but his account got closed so now he's moved onto RapidGator. I'm not exactly sure how much money they make by doing this but it's obviously worth the $29.95/month and the time it takes him to prepare screenshots, etc. Now that he's been blocked and all his links have been removed from RapidGator, he's complaining on pornbb that all his hard work has been wasted. So, right-click, Save As...is their definition of "hard word".

It's a small victory for me but it still feels good. This guy was grabbing the latest update hot off the press and posting it on pornbb like clock work. The thing that pissed me off the most is reading the comments and seeing the leechers praise him like he produced the video. They would even ask him questions about future updates and were even making special requests to see certain girls in future videos. These guys are complete morons.

After I got all the links pulled, one guy even posted this comment:

"Dude WTF no re-ups??? If so any one else got the guts to post them and stand up to these fuckers please.... Someone??? Anyone??? For Christ FUCKING SAKES..."

They don't see themselves as thieves, they think of themselves as "freedom fighters" and we're the enemy because we're preventing their "right" to download our content.

Their reasoning is that they will never buy porn in the first place so it's not taking business away from the site owner. They also don't understand that the uploader gets paid for the videos. They think they are all fighting for the same cause and he's just doing it to be a nice guy. I'm sure most of the users pay for the "premium" service from RG to download the files quicker so they are in fact paying for porn despite what they think.

I thought about offering stream only but it's very difficult to do that now and would piss off the honest paying members.

I checked into the forensic finger printing and got quoted $27K for the equipment and set-up. This would add a unique code to each downloaded video that could be tracked to the original downloader but there's always a work around and I think the code is removed if the video gets re-rendered, I'm not sure on that one yet.

I think most thieves are pretty lazy and wouldn't take the time to re-render a video unless it's something very unique and in high demand.

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garce

Its still the Wild West out here. Hopefully that will change soon. By "soon" I mean sometime during the next decade.

I honestly believe that the American Government (because no other country is going to do it) needs to go batshit insane on free porn.

What's the problem? Nothing else is free...

axel77

I think, if someone can shut down all these sharing sites, than there will be quiet.
These sharing sites are new generation of hell !!!
There is 10000000000 gigs of stolen adult material....

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dgraves

This is such a huge problem for many industries that it's hard to imagine that no one has come up with a solution. We can see that removing their processors is having an effect but blocking all US traffic to these sites would be a good start.

You can bet if Top Secret files were being shared on those sites that the government wouldn't be just sending out a DMCA.

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pornguy

We cut off the downloads. It slowed it down. Lost some members over and it lose some each month. But in the long run we make more.

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How do you just "cut off" downloads?

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members steal for sure
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dgraves

The paysite with downloadable content is a horrible business model but that's how everything started and it can be hard to break away from that. My members love the HD videos and they wouldn't stream that well so that's another issue.

If content is downloadable then it should be like C4S, pay per video.

I think a better model would be to have a stream only membership site with the option to buy each video. For example, charge $9.95/month "stream only" and then have a "Buy This Video" option for a certain price like $3.95, etc. Thieves are cheap and they pride themselves on getting lots of content for a low price and that's one of the reasons I don't offer trials.

Yes, people can still use recorders to capture the streaming videos but there are ways to overlay the Username on the video so they would be capturing that as well. Sure, they can edit that out if they really wanted to but we all know these thieves are lazy fucks or they would have a real job so most wouldn't bother and move on to low hanging fruit.

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dgraves

Do you know what percentage you lost when you stopped offering download?

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wr had tons of froggies rip us off. Lots of dutchies too. We also created our own fingerprinting system. Works ok but it gets removed if you rerender which most pirates have figured out.
I'd like to compare notes on your frenchies. We've had an inhouse team since 09.
hit me up
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