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epitome · 09-19-2012, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n

so how much is hushmoney getting paid ?

your response to someone having their content stolen is to say hey they are ok because they dont steal my content and they give me money

i just want to make sure i have it right

By the sounds of it not a penny. The tubes aren't going anywhere no matter how many threads are created. Their content won't stop being uploaded no matter how many threads are created. If Hush Money isn't already doing it though they could make a lot of money from the tubes that aren't going anywhere. So much money that they could have a team of full time employees dedicated just to that.

Edit: as I mentioned, working with tubes doesn't mean your content will not show up there. You still have to police for it. You need to have a plan for dealing with it.

DWB · 09-19-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HushMoney

As best as I can tell, you must be logged into your user account on pornhub to upload. The screen below is what pops up after you click the upload button on pornhub.

This is not a user, as they have no profile, nor account to login. So I'm left with the only answer being a pornhub employee uploading these. If that is the case, this is not covered under DMCA. Please explain.

Don't be stupid, it's a glitch in the system. Probably the same glitch that was messing up the dates of only the top uploaders and adding 1000s of videos to their account.

Radical Bucks · 09-19-2012, 05:50 PM

Many of the DMCA services/companies go around uploading your content to tubes/torrents get work from you to take them down as well TRUE STORY!

Its just like Windows data recovery software. A sham and scam

xxxjay · 09-19-2012, 07:29 PM

So anybody get an answer yet?

mychemicalromance · 09-19-2012, 07:33 PM

who gives a shit, looks like a crappy movie anyway, you should be happy people are fapping to it.

Half man, Half Amazing · 09-19-2012, 08:28 PM

Wow...you guys are fucking idiots, and I say that with all due respect.

At the risk of ruining my cloak of anonymity if there were ever a situation worth sacrificing anonymity for, it's when you fucktards make crazy accusations like I am in any way shape or form working with/for Fabian and Manwin.

Yes, I am Nate from Takedown Piracy.

So do I have anything to do with Manwin? No. If you had an iota of intelligence this would be painfully obvious.

#1 - Look at Google's Transparency Report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...als/copyright/

More specifically look at Pornhub's stats in that report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...s/pornhub.com/

7766 URLs removed from Google - and where did 7,125 of those come from? Why Takedown Piracy. We're responsible for 92 fucking percent of the takedowns from Pornhub in Google. So if Google implements their "pirate penalty" and it affects Pornhub...I hope you mouth breathers give me my 92% of the credit. Judging by Pornhub's stats on that page, it looks like only me and Eric @ RYC are the only ones who are reporting Manwin tubes to Google. You should be wondering why an anti-piracy company like Degban can seem to be the #1 reporter to Google yet RARELY, IF EVER, reports any Manwin sites. Hmmmmm...why do you think that is?

#2. Wicked Pictures is owned by Steve Orenstein. I've known Steve for years, going back before there was even an entity known as Manwin or Mansef. Steve is an honorable man doing everything he can to keep his employees in a job. Since he's got more integrity in his pinky than you armchair quarterback webmasters, I'm not even going to put him on your level. Wicked Pictures became a client years and years before the Manwin thing and remain a client to this day. This six degrees of separation character assassination is plain stupid. This is a small connected industry. You can point the finger all day. What about people that license to RK for VOD or cable, I guess they are all bad guys now too huh? Making some flimsy connection there is pure horseshit.

#3 But why don't you look at a company like Digital Playground which is actually wholly owned and operated by Manwin? From nearly day one of the start of Takedown Piracy Digital Playground was a client. Now look at the Google Transparency Report again - http://www.google.com/transparencyre...t/owners/1760/
Why have I not sent a SINGLE DMCA notice for DP in over 6 months? Why is the date of my last DP DMCA notice nearly the exact same day the buyout was announced. Notice in that report how Eric @ RYC dropped them even before I did, and my relationship with DP was severed soon after. If Fabian was somehow telling me what to do, why do the stats tell the EXACT opposite story?

#4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it.

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.

This is the crazy thing about GFY - you guys just bitch and bitch about people like Fabian and then when someone is actually doing something positive, you rip them. This thread has to have Fabian doing LOLZ like mad. You guys are so caught up in your conspiracies and bitching that you can't even stop for a second and think about what you're saying.

I swear...you guys. SMH

looky_lou · 09-19-2012, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Wow...you guys are fucking idiots, and I say that with all due respect.

At the risk of ruining my cloak of anonymity if there were ever a situation worth sacrificing anonymity for, it's when you fucktards make crazy accusations like I am in any way shape or form working with/for Fabian and Manwin.

Yes, I am Nate from Takedown Piracy.

So do I have anything to do with Manwin? No. If you had an iota of intelligence this would be painfully obvious.

#1 - Look at Google's Transparency Report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...als/copyright/

More specifically look at Pornhub's stats in that report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...s/pornhub.com/

7766 URLs removed from Google - and where did 7,125 of those come from? Why Takedown Piracy. We're responsible for 92 fucking percent of the takedowns from Pornhub in Google. So if Google implements their "pirate penalty" and it affects Pornhub...I hope you mouth breathers give me my 92% of the credit. Judging by Pornhub's stats on that page, it looks like only me and Eric @ RYC are the only ones who are reporting Manwin tubes to Google. You should be wondering why an anti-piracy company like Degban can seem to be the #1 reporter to Google yet RARELY, IF EVER, reports any Manwin sites. Hmmmmm...why do you think that is?

#2. Wicked Pictures is owned by Steve Orenstein. I've known Steve for years, going back before there was even an entity known as Manwin or Mansef. Steve is an honorable man doing everything he can to keep his employees in a job. Since he's got more integrity in his pinky than you armchair quarterback webmasters, I'm not even going to put him on your level. Wicked Pictures became a client years and years before the Manwin thing and remain a client to this day. This six degrees of separation character assassination is plain stupid. This is a small connected industry. You can point the finger all day. What about people that license to RK for VOD or cable, I guess they are all bad guys now too huh? Making some flimsy connection there is pure horseshit.

#3 But why don't you look at a company like Digital Playground which is actually wholly owned and operated by Manwin? From nearly day one of the start of Takedown Piracy Digital Playground was a client. Now look at the Google Transparency Report again - http://www.google.com/transparencyre...t/owners/1760/
Why have I not sent a SINGLE DMCA notice for DP in over 6 months? Why is the date of my last DP DMCA notice nearly the exact same day the buyout was announced. Notice in that report how Eric @ RYC dropped them even before I did, and my relationship with DP was severed soon after. If Fabian was somehow telling me what to do, why do the stats tell the EXACT opposite story?

#4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it.

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.

This is the crazy thing about GFY - you guys just bitch and bitch about people like Fabian and then when someone is actually doing something positive, you rip them. This thread has to have Fabian doing LOLZ like mad. You guys are so caught up in your conspiracies and bitching that you can't even stop for a second and think about what you're saying.

I swear...you guys. SMH

So you work for Manwin right?

baryl · 09-19-2012, 09:36 PM

Could just be the user account was deleted but not the videos?

KillerK · 09-20-2012, 12:54 AM

why would they delete the videos just because the user account was deleted.

Gozarian · 09-20-2012, 01:45 AM

Better question is why would they keep the videos after the uploader account was deleted.

SKUP · 09-20-2012, 02:00 AM

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.
I have been reading this press release over and over and I have no clue were it even indicates there is a relation between ACIUF and TDP. Even less clues were it would indicate TDP has anything to do with Manwin.

And about being proud on taking money from Manwin: we are happy to take money as long as is it for the support of fighting piracy. Damn, I would even take Oron's money to fight them. And if you want a clue about what we are doing, just pay some attention and try to do it with an open mind.

HushMoney · 09-20-2012, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by looky_lou

So you work for Manwin right?

oh snap!

Half man, Half Amazing · 09-20-2012, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.
I have been reading this press release over and over and I have no clue were it even indicates there is a relation between ACIUF and TDP. Even less clues were it would indicate TDP has anything to do with Manwin.

And about being proud on taking money from Manwin: we are happy to take money as long as is it for the support of fighting piracy. Damn, I would even take Oron's money to fight them. And if you want a clue about what we are doing, just pay some attention and try to do it with an open mind.

Siep, I too couldn't see anywhere where that PR made some connection which is why the idiots posting here saying there was just look all the more stupid.

As far as being "open minded", there is no amount of "open minded"-ness that would make me want to work with Fabian/Manwin in any capacity, and severely less "open minded"-ness that would put out a Press Release announcing it even if I did. I think our situations are different and you're well entitled to do what you think is the best for you and your business. I just think it's probably not a good idea to become financially beholden to the same company owning the sites you are trying to clean up. Again I would point to Degban - sends a lot of notices to Google - never for any Manwin-owned sites. I'm guessing the fact that Manwin is their biggest customer dictates that. I don't want to not be able to do the best job for my clients because another client can call the shots. Just my

xxxjay · 09-20-2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Wow...you guys are fucking idiots, and I say that with all due respect.

At the risk of ruining my cloak of anonymity if there were ever a situation worth sacrificing anonymity for, it's when you fucktards make crazy accusations like I am in any way shape or form working with/for Fabian and Manwin.

Yes, I am Nate from Takedown Piracy.

So do I have anything to do with Manwin? No. If you had an iota of intelligence this would be painfully obvious.

#1 - Look at Google's Transparency Report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...als/copyright/

More specifically look at Pornhub's stats in that report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...s/pornhub.com/

7766 URLs removed from Google - and where did 7,125 of those come from? Why Takedown Piracy. We're responsible for 92 fucking percent of the takedowns from Pornhub in Google. So if Google implements their "pirate penalty" and it affects Pornhub...I hope you mouth breathers give me my 92% of the credit. Judging by Pornhub's stats on that page, it looks like only me and Eric @ RYC are the only ones who are reporting Manwin tubes to Google. You should be wondering why an anti-piracy company like Degban can seem to be the #1 reporter to Google yet RARELY, IF EVER, reports any Manwin sites. Hmmmmm...why do you think that is?

#2. Wicked Pictures is owned by Steve Orenstein. I've known Steve for years, going back before there was even an entity known as Manwin or Mansef. Steve is an honorable man doing everything he can to keep his employees in a job. Since he's got more integrity in his pinky than you armchair quarterback webmasters, I'm not even going to put him on your level. Wicked Pictures became a client years and years before the Manwin thing and remain a client to this day. This six degrees of separation character assassination is plain stupid. This is a small connected industry. You can point the finger all day. What about people that license to RK for VOD or cable, I guess they are all bad guys now too huh? Making some flimsy connection there is pure horseshit.

#3 But why don't you look at a company like Digital Playground which is actually wholly owned and operated by Manwin? From nearly day one of the start of Takedown Piracy Digital Playground was a client. Now look at the Google Transparency Report again - http://www.google.com/transparencyre...t/owners/1760/
Why have I not sent a SINGLE DMCA notice for DP in over 6 months? Why is the date of my last DP DMCA notice nearly the exact same day the buyout was announced. Notice in that report how Eric @ RYC dropped them even before I did, and my relationship with DP was severed soon after. If Fabian was somehow telling me what to do, why do the stats tell the EXACT opposite story?

#4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it.

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.

This is the crazy thing about GFY - you guys just bitch and bitch about people like Fabian and then when someone is actually doing something positive, you rip them. This thread has to have Fabian doing LOLZ like mad. You guys are so caught up in your conspiracies and bitching that you can't even stop for a second and think about what you're saying.

I swear...you guys. SMH

Hear, hear. We use www.takedownpiracy.com, Nate is awesome, he takes down a ton of shit, and he knows his shit.

PS: HEY NATE - I still need that quote for www.pornstarplatinum.com

HushMoney · 09-20-2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Hear, hear. We use www.takedownpiracy.com, Nate is awesome, he takes down a ton of shit, and he knows his shit.

PS: HEY NATE - I still need that quote for www.pornstarplatinum.com

xxxjay · 09-20-2012, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

#4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it.

Hey Nate. Full disclosure, we do a small amount of tube submissions. That was one of the FEW articles I've read in the AVN print in years. You made a lot of great points. The KW one (which I already had thought) - if you aren't careful YOU WILL BURY YOU OWN SITE in Google.

Half man, Half Amazing · 09-20-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Hey Nate. Full disclosure, we do a small amount of tube submissions. That was one of the FEW articles I've read in the AVN print in years. You made a lot of great points. The KW one (which I already had thought) - if you aren't careful YOU WILL BURY YOU OWN SITE in Google.

Yeah I don't knock people for tube submissions, ideally that's the way tube should work but people should realize that titling your tube submissions after your official sites will kill the SEO for those sites. I try to keep my AVN column a good mix between helpful information and the occasional rant.

SKUP · 09-20-2012, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Siep, I too couldn't see anywhere where that PR made some connection which is why the idiots posting here saying there was just look all the more stupid.

As far as being "open minded", there is no amount of "open minded"-ness that would make me want to work with Fabian/Manwin in any capacity, and severely less "open minded"-ness that would put out a Press Release announcing it even if I did. I think our situations are different and you're well entitled to do what you think is the best for you and your business. I just think it's probably not a good idea to become financially beholden to the same company owning the sites you are trying to clean up. Again I would point to Degban - sends a lot of notices to Google - never for any Manwin-owned sites. I'm guessing the fact that Manwin is their biggest customer dictates that. I don't want to not be able to do the best job for my clients because another client can call the shots. Just my

As you might know, I don't see sending DMCA's as a solution. That is why I wanted to outsource it. Main reason I want these DMCA's sent is because it helps us dealing with hosting companies and billing processors.

About Manwin, Fabian only brought up immunity to secure me he wasn't looking for that. So when we really start to work on some tubes his will be amongst them. What Degban does or doesn't is of no interest to me.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-20-2012, 09:03 AM

Anyone want to buy the instructions to destroy manwin ?

SKUP · 09-20-2012, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrorist

Anyone want to buy the instructions to destroy manwin ?

If I wanted that, I would askAchmed

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-20-2012, 09:10 AM

No but I personally found Their Achilles' heel. Me. I. ;)

mineistaken · 09-20-2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrorist

No but I personally found Their Achilles' heel. Me. I. ;)

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DWB · 09-20-2012, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Wow...you guys are fucking idiots, and I say that with all due respect.

At the risk of ruining my cloak of anonymity if there were ever a situation worth sacrificing anonymity for, it's when you fucktards make crazy accusations like I am in any way shape or form working with/for Fabian and Manwin.

Yes, I am Nate from Takedown Piracy.

So do I have anything to do with Manwin? No. If you had an iota of intelligence this would be painfully obvious.

#1 - Look at Google's Transparency Report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...als/copyright/

More specifically look at Pornhub's stats in that report:
http://www.google.com/transparencyre...s/pornhub.com/

7766 URLs removed from Google - and where did 7,125 of those come from? Why Takedown Piracy. We're responsible for 92 fucking percent of the takedowns from Pornhub in Google. So if Google implements their "pirate penalty" and it affects Pornhub...I hope you mouth breathers give me my 92% of the credit. Judging by Pornhub's stats on that page, it looks like only me and Eric @ RYC are the only ones who are reporting Manwin tubes to Google. You should be wondering why an anti-piracy company like Degban can seem to be the #1 reporter to Google yet RARELY, IF EVER, reports any Manwin sites. Hmmmmm...why do you think that is?

#2. Wicked Pictures is owned by Steve Orenstein. I've known Steve for years, going back before there was even an entity known as Manwin or Mansef. Steve is an honorable man doing everything he can to keep his employees in a job. Since he's got more integrity in his pinky than you armchair quarterback webmasters, I'm not even going to put him on your level. Wicked Pictures became a client years and years before the Manwin thing and remain a client to this day. This six degrees of separation character assassination is plain stupid. This is a small connected industry. You can point the finger all day. What about people that license to RK for VOD or cable, I guess they are all bad guys now too huh? Making some flimsy connection there is pure horseshit.

#3 But why don't you look at a company like Digital Playground which is actually wholly owned and operated by Manwin? From nearly day one of the start of Takedown Piracy Digital Playground was a client. Now look at the Google Transparency Report again - http://www.google.com/transparencyre...t/owners/1760/
Why have I not sent a SINGLE DMCA notice for DP in over 6 months? Why is the date of my last DP DMCA notice nearly the exact same day the buyout was announced. Notice in that report how Eric @ RYC dropped them even before I did, and my relationship with DP was severed soon after. If Fabian was somehow telling me what to do, why do the stats tell the EXACT opposite story?

#4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it.

#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action.

This is the crazy thing about GFY - you guys just bitch and bitch about people like Fabian and then when someone is actually doing something positive, you rip them. This thread has to have Fabian doing LOLZ like mad. You guys are so caught up in your conspiracies and bitching that you can't even stop for a second and think about what you're saying.

I swear...you guys. SMH

Love ya Nate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

Yeah I don't knock people for tube submissions, ideally that's the way tube should work but people should realize that titling your tube submissions after your official sites will kill the SEO for those sites. I try to keep my AVN column a good mix between helpful information and the occasional rant.

Hey, what article do you speak of? Have a link online or can you shoot me a copy to my email?

Half man, Half Amazing · 09-20-2012, 01:17 PM

http://www.digitaleditiononline.com/...?i=120267&p=58 is the article Jay is referencing.

HushMoney · 09-20-2012, 05:34 PM

Barefootsies · 09-20-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

The tubes aren't going anywhere no matter how many threads are created.

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mychemicalromance So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 475	who gives a shit, looks like a crappy movie anyway, you should be happy people are fapping to it.

09-19-2012, 08:28 PM	#61
Half man, Half Amazing Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital Wasteland, DC Posts: 372	Wow...you guys are fucking idiots, and I say that with all due respect. At the risk of ruining my cloak of anonymity if there were ever a situation worth sacrificing anonymity for, it's when you fucktards make crazy accusations like I am in any way shape or form working with/for Fabian and Manwin. Yes, I am Nate from Takedown Piracy. So do I have anything to do with Manwin? No. If you had an iota of intelligence this would be painfully obvious. #1 - Look at Google's Transparency Report: http://www.google.com/transparencyre...als/copyright/ More specifically look at Pornhub's stats in that report: http://www.google.com/transparencyre...s/pornhub.com/ 7766 URLs removed from Google - and where did 7,125 of those come from? Why Takedown Piracy. We're responsible for 92 fucking percent of the takedowns from Pornhub in Google. So if Google implements their "pirate penalty" and it affects Pornhub...I hope you mouth breathers give me my 92% of the credit. Judging by Pornhub's stats on that page, it looks like only me and Eric @ RYC are the only ones who are reporting Manwin tubes to Google. You should be wondering why an anti-piracy company like Degban can seem to be the #1 reporter to Google yet RARELY, IF EVER, reports any Manwin sites. Hmmmmm...why do you think that is? #2. Wicked Pictures is owned by Steve Orenstein. I've known Steve for years, going back before there was even an entity known as Manwin or Mansef. Steve is an honorable man doing everything he can to keep his employees in a job. Since he's got more integrity in his pinky than you armchair quarterback webmasters, I'm not even going to put him on your level. Wicked Pictures became a client years and years before the Manwin thing and remain a client to this day. This six degrees of separation character assassination is plain stupid. This is a small connected industry. You can point the finger all day. What about people that license to RK for VOD or cable, I guess they are all bad guys now too huh? Making some flimsy connection there is pure horseshit. #3 But why don't you look at a company like Digital Playground which is actually wholly owned and operated by Manwin? From nearly day one of the start of Takedown Piracy Digital Playground was a client. Now look at the Google Transparency Report again - http://www.google.com/transparencyre...t/owners/1760/ Why have I not sent a SINGLE DMCA notice for DP in over 6 months? Why is the date of my last DP DMCA notice nearly the exact same day the buyout was announced. Notice in that report how Eric @ RYC dropped them even before I did, and my relationship with DP was severed soon after. If Fabian was somehow telling me what to do, why do the stats tell the EXACT opposite story? #4 Ever read my column in AVN? Every other month it's filled with me exposing Manwin's flimsy repeat infringer policy and their activities as what could be construed as keyword squatting. If Fabian pulls my strings then he really, REALLY sucks at it. #5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action. This is the crazy thing about GFY - you guys just bitch and bitch about people like Fabian and then when someone is actually doing something positive, you rip them. This thread has to have Fabian doing LOLZ like mad. You guys are so caught up in your conspiracies and bitching that you can't even stop for a second and think about what you're saying. I swear...you guys. SMH __________________ Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

09-19-2012, 09:36 PM	#63
baryl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,086	Could just be the user account was deleted but not the videos?

09-20-2012, 12:54 AM	#64
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	why would they delete the videos just because the user account was deleted.

09-20-2012, 01:45 AM	#65
Gozarian Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: most recently Bucharest Posts: 558	Better question is why would they keep the videos after the uploader account was deleted.

09-20-2012, 02:00 AM	#66
SKUP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 400	#5 You cite some Press Release from ACIUF as "proof" my company is affiliated with Manwin. This makes my head explode. I have absolutely NOTHING to do with ACIUF - I have no clue what they even do. Ask Siep that's his organization. He's proud to take Manwin money, that's his call. Fabian should just as soon burn his money than send it to me. Unlike most people in this industry, I'm not going up to Fabian with my empty bowl out all Oliver Twist-style begging for a piece of the traffic and money action. I have been reading this press release over and over and I have no clue were it even indicates there is a relation between ACIUF and TDP. Even less clues were it would indicate TDP has anything to do with Manwin. And about being proud on taking money from Manwin: we are happy to take money as long as is it for the support of fighting piracy. Damn, I would even take Oron's money to fight them. And if you want a clue about what we are doing, just pay some attention and try to do it with an open mind.

09-20-2012, 09:03 AM	#74
Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE Barterer Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,864	Anyone want to buy the instructions to destroy manwin ?

09-20-2012, 09:10 AM	#76
Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE Barterer Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,864	No but I personally found Their Achilles' heel. Me. I. ;) Last edited by Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE; 09-20-2012 at 09:11 AM..

09-20-2012, 01:17 PM	#79
Half man, Half Amazing Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Capital Wasteland, DC Posts: 372	http://www.digitaleditiononline.com/...?i=120267&p=58 is the article Jay is referencing. __________________ Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

09-20-2012, 05:34 PM	#80
HushMoney Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hermosa Beach & Miami, FL. Posts: 2,256	__________________ Hushmoney.com Interracialpass Hushpass