Looking for a partner - 20% Ownership in the paysites up for grabs - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Sly_RJ · 02-13-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Stop taking your cheap-shots at me cause i called your lik GFY girlfriend a slut for talking shit about me.

Lackey

As for ripping anyone off or going behind your back, why would i? im not making anything off those sites now so i have absolutely nothing to lose in this deal. All the code is still mine, the videos are still owned by the people who owns them.

I'm out to make money and build bridges not rip them down however, if the cost of defending myself against you and your little group of lackey friends aainst their shit talking is the loss of a couple deals then so be it.

What the fuck are you talking about?

First off, my comment about "going behind your back" was referring to the guy you end up taking on as a partner.

My group of lackeys? Get real. I posted in this thread, just like 10 other people, are they lackeys too?

Yeh, notjoe, I have nothing better to do then to follow you around and take cheap shots because you had a payment issue with pimpdog. Do you really think I give a fuck? That was 2 weeks ago, who the fuck cares? Not me. Work it out with him.

Learn how to read.

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

Why bother replying to me? Are you trying to convince me and everyone else what a good deal this is? I thought you wanted to hook up with it yourself?...

That's not very good marketing there punkworld to hype up and defend something that you are trying to go for yourself

Aww I'm just messing with you

I understand the investments... but like I said, someone with a minimal bankroll, or the ability to scrounge one up (I'm talking like < $10k here) could come to the table with the same resources or more.

I think Joe's offer could be FANTASTIC for someone and work out really well, if it was more of a true partnership. Like Joe said.. he has other things going on as well and this wouldn't be his primary focus.. it would be YOURS.

From chats I've had with him he does seem to be a very proficient unix administrator & programmer who also happens to have tons of movie content at his disposal.

I don't know.. I won't argue about it anymore because I don't want to seem like I'm slamming his offer here.

I've made my comments and my points. To me, its sounds promising, but the splits don't make sense. For someone else, it might be just right.

But the bottom line is how big the program gets in the end.

It never seemed like you were slamming my offer but just asking valid questions which i was trying to answer ;)

You're questions were a lot more production than people like mutt who are so blinded with hatred towards me that it fogs up their thinking, or like the other guy who was trying to say my math didnt add up..

Believe it or not i find this all k ind of amusing and at the very least it lets me know who the ones who have a business mindset really are.. Clearly if someone jumps the gun and starts bashing right away they're got a hidden agenda and atleast i know who more and more of these guys are ;)

quiet · 02-13-2003, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

Indeed, but without content how can you retain the members!

it's certainly not my business plan, but many sites offer garbage content and still make loads of money - sad but true. marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

What the fuck are you talking about?

First off, my comment about "going behind your back" was referring to the guy you end up taking on as a partner.

My group of lackeys? Get real. I posted in this thread, just like 10 other people, are they lackeys too?

Yeh, notjoe, I have nothing better to do then to follow you around and take cheap shots because you had a payment issue with pimpdog. Do you really think I give a fuck? That was 2 weeks ago, who the fuck cares? Not me. Work it out with him.

Learn how to read.

Guess i mis-read what you meant, guess i was just on the defensive ;)

As for the guy attempting to fuck me, it would be pretty hard when all the real control is in my hands and i hope that the person i brought on wouldnt do that as i am not looking for a quick job here but actually build one of the best affiliate sites out there.

As for the pimpdog thing, i really couldnt care about that and said what i said for another thread, none the less sorry ;)

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

it's certainly not my business plan, but many sites offer garbage content and still make loads of money - sad but true. marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

A site with great content and great marketing will make even more money! I've always thought that if you were going to do something it should be done right from the begining.

FATPad · 02-13-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

it's certainly not my business plan, but many sites offer garbage content and still make loads of money - sad but true. marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

That seems to be standard practice in the porn biz.

A Real Shame, if you ask me.

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
That seems to be standard practice in the porn biz.

A Real Shame, if you ask me.

Join up with me and lets do something about that ;)

AM Jeff · 02-13-2003, 10:14 AM

Ummm..why don't I build them, market them and market them and keep 100%?

Btw...Sword...you whore.

I'll give ya 30% of muh profits...lol

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

Don't remind me. ;)

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by AM Jeff
Ummm..why don't I build them, market them and market them and keep 100%?

Btw...Sword...you whore.

I'll give ya 30% of muh profits...lol

Thats cool, signup at hostedcontent.com and take our feeds and build your own site around them, you might want to drop in other providers as well though to keep the costs down.

UncleJimmy · 02-13-2003, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

it's certainly not my business plan, but many sites offer garbage content and still make loads of money - sad but true. marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

goBigtime · 02-13-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

it's certainly not my business plan, but many sites offer garbage content and still make loads of money - sad but true. marketing is king. a site with great content and no traffic will make zero.

10 print "what he said."
20 goto 10

Man. I loved that Commodore.

Thomas N · 02-13-2003, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by AM Jeff
Ummm..why don't I build them, market them and market them and keep 100%?

Btw...Sword...you whore.

I'll give ya 30% of muh profits...lol

Cool thanks for the gift. I'll send you my paypal details.

Tipsy · 02-13-2003, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by BVF

You would be in the street after making 40-50K a year? Try living on $8-$12 an hour...like I did for YEARS!!

You must eat Caviar for breakfast...

It depends totally on what you pay out. A drop t o that or below that would very much put me in the street as I couldn't pay the bills and the bailiffs would be in to take it all. Fuck all to do with having caviar for breakfast and much more to do with enjoying a comfortable lifestyle. What a stupid reply to make.

harvey · 02-13-2003, 03:32 PM

Hey notjoe, I think you've something that makes sense in your own mind, and people think it doesn't make that much sense in their minds. Both ways of thinking are reasonable according to the different points of view. But since most people thinks your deal is unfair, I guess you'll need to settle down

Anyway, you post some numbers that are pretty much good wishes rather than reality based figures. 1 million for an unactive program which you're looking to launch with unknown people, possibly (not necesarily, but it's still a risk) amateurs or marketing wannabes? I know that you say "1 million" and then the 20% of that sounds great, but believe me, whoever can do that million figure, won't need you at all. Not to mention the 20% offer. I cannot imagine myself making 1 million dollars a month, or a year. It could happen, but it's not likely. But if I could, I'd throw 30-40,000 bucks (and that's a lot, believe me) in content and keep the 100% for myself. With 30k I'd buy 300 DVD and 80-100,000 images, and if I push it a little I'd have some design ( http://fdsign.com could make you a great deal here

) and some banner placement. Let's add 10k and get loads of hits from SE, more marketing, promotion, etc. Now those are more realistic figures, and if somebody could make me not 1 million, but 50k, I'd grab him and not let him go! That's why people is bashing you, it simply makes not sense to most of us. I'd even go further and save costs by shooting exclusive content that would cost me less than buying it. In short: content is important, but not much. Customers are valued their weight in gold.

btw, your sig

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HostedContent.Com Add The Highest Quality Video Streams to your site.
211+ DVDS Streaming all the time. 3,500+ Video Clips Online. 350+ Hours of Porn.
You can now build your own interface to our content!

You said you have 300 DVD, now you've almost 100 less. And what does 211+ means? 212? 213? 300? 5000? 211 and a half?

MetaMan · 02-13-2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by notjoe
Something i was working on seems to have fallen through and i will no longer be going with the plan and am here looking to possibly find someone else.

Here is what i seeking

Someone who has strong ties to the adult industry to get lots of traffic to the sites.

Someone who can redesign the sites if needed or do any sort of graphical/html work as needed to keep the sites selling to the surfers.

This person will be able to work with minimal input from me to help build these paysites to be as big as possible while i work on adding mass amounts of content to the sites.

Bascially i am looking for someone to run all aspects of the program while i take care of all the techy stuff and provide all the updates to the content of the site.

Now for the 20% ownership, this is 20% of the overall numbers and not 20% of the money generated by you. If a webmaster joins and promotes the site and you never referred them you still get the 20% of the NET of all the paysites.

I have access to more than enough content to make these sites quite possibly the biggest video sites on the net, although most of it has to be streamed i still can get some downloadable DVDS from other contacts in the biz.

If this is something you're interested in then drop me a line on ICQ at 5956902

Joe

whats your icq or email?

MikeEP · 02-13-2003, 04:22 PM

Notjoe, think of it this way. You have content, which is great.
but...

Content is a physical thing. Content can be bought, content can be made, etc.

But a person who has marketing skills and traffic generating skills isn't something you can buy..and a person like that is worth a shitload in this business. These people are not a dime a dozen. It takes years of hands on experience...years.

The 'calibre' of the person that your looking for, for something like this, is most likely already making a killing in this business. Obviously if the person is great at marketing and is also great at traffic generation, why would they settle for something like this? Because you have hosting and content?

If this person your looking for is that smart and good at what he does, he's not going to shoot himself in the foot at 20% when he can simply buy content himself and build his own business up..if he hasn't already.

This person would already have the connections, the skills, the trust, the traffic, etc. So the incentive simply isn't there. As a matter of fact, I would think to any "veteran" webmasters of 'that calibre,' the deal is almost insulting.

I hope you don't take offense, as none was meant. Just thought i would add my

to the discussion.

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 05:39 PM

Ok, it seems there was some confusion in the % which the partner would get so let me make it clear

the program brings in 100% gross profit.

Once webmasters are payed out there leaves abotu 50% leftover of the overall income.

The 20% i am offering is actually the 20% out of the 50% so the split would actually be 60/40 in my favor of all net profits.

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 05:43 PM

That sounds like 40% net profits to me. That is a lot more reasonable than the 20% that people have been disagreeing with.

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
That sounds like 40% net profits to me. That is a lot more reasonable than the 20% that people have been disagreeing with.

It was a mixup on my end ;) I should have said 20% out of the 50% and not 20% of the 50% ;)

Libertine · 02-13-2003, 05:49 PM

Glad to have been of help

notjoe · 02-13-2003, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Glad to have been of help

That was you on icq? Drop me another line so i can add you to my list ;)

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AM Jeff Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The House Of Rage Posts: 1,320	Ummm..why don't I build them, market them and market them and keep 100%? Btw...Sword...you whore. I'll give ya 30% of muh profits...lol

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MikeEP Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 464	Notjoe, think of it this way. You have content, which is great. but... Content is a physical thing. Content can be bought, content can be made, etc. But a person who has marketing skills and traffic generating skills isn't something you can buy..and a person like that is worth a shitload in this business. These people are not a dime a dozen. It takes years of hands on experience...years. The 'calibre' of the person that your looking for, for something like this, is most likely already making a killing in this business. Obviously if the person is great at marketing and is also great at traffic generation, why would they settle for something like this? Because you have hosting and content? If this person your looking for is that smart and good at what he does, he's not going to shoot himself in the foot at 20% when he can simply buy content himself and build his own business up..if he hasn't already. This person would already have the connections, the skills, the trust, the traffic, etc. So the incentive simply isn't there. As a matter of fact, I would think to any "veteran" webmasters of 'that calibre,' the deal is almost insulting. I hope you don't take offense, as none was meant. Just thought i would add my to the discussion.

02-13-2003, 05:39 PM	#68
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	Ok, it seems there was some confusion in the % which the partner would get so let me make it clear the program brings in 100% gross profit. Once webmasters are payed out there leaves abotu 50% leftover of the overall income. The 20% i am offering is actually the 20% out of the 50% so the split would actually be 60/40 in my favor of all net profits.