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Old 01-30-2003, 02:24 PM   #1
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spamcop.net makes spam and want money!!!

Men I get a spam from spamcop.net wanting money for their fight against spammers. Firstly I'm not a spammer, but it's it weird that a spam stopper dudes spam around? E-mail says they spam to 20 million.

And look at the sign 'Steve Linford - God of the Internet'

Did we -internet users- created this guy?
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:28 PM   #2
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FUCK SPAMCOP
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:31 PM   #3
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SpamCop is the gayest waste of time EVER!
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:32 PM   #4
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i keep on telling people prevention is hell of alot easier than wasting your time taking action
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:37 PM   #5
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can you forward me the email if possible to [email protected]

thanks
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:38 PM   #6
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Spam cop sucks my ball sack.
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:53 PM   #7
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can you forward me the email if possible to [email protected]

thanks
Here is the complete e-mail

'Hello, my fellow net citizens. I am writing today to let you know that I have decided to declare war on all spammers and the backbones and tier 1 providers who support them!

Working together with my associates, Joe Jared of SPEWS and Julian Haight of SpamCop we will stop the world and we may even shut down the entire Internet if necessary.

It is time that we stopped them ! To do this I will need the help of every able minded hacker. We need to put together a campaign of server hacking, site damaging, port scanning, virus infusions and DOS attacks. Any of you who have the skills to help on this project, please contact one of us below:

Steve Linford - [email protected]
Joe Jared - [email protected]
Julian Haight - [email protected] or [email protected]


We will be happy to give you a most interesting assignment.

Our first targets will be W#rldCom and H#tmail. W#rldcom, because it hosts more spammers that any other provider and Hotmail because it hosts most of the spammers real email addresses. We have to shut these 2 down now !

If the spammers happen to see this message (how can they miss it - I am sending out 20 million copies), they should take my advice and take their business to http://whitehat.com and pay a few dollars for a proper email campaign.

We may need some money to carry on our battle, so please, send all you can to me via PayPay using [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] Address as the recipient. If you do not have a credit card, then please send your cash or check to me at:

The Spamhaus Project
The Phoenix
Taggs Island
Offshore
TW12 2HA
GB

Make checks payable to "Steve Linford"

Or

SpamCop Donation
PO BOX 25732
Seattle, WA 98125
206-362-5759 voice

Make checks payable to "Julian Haight"

Or

Spews.org
Osirusoft
405-B W. Tularosa
Orange, CA 92866
US
714-997-0375 voice
714-532-4731 fax

Make checks payable to "Joe Jared"


I know that together we will be able to stop them all and put their backbones into bankruptcy.

Now, let's all have fun and put an end to the spambags!!!

Steve Linford - God of the Internet'

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Old 01-30-2003, 02:55 PM   #8
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Do you also believe that Bill Gates will send you money for forwarding his email on to all your friends?

Take your fucking dumb ass elsewhere, that's a scam mail sent by spammers to discredit spamcop.
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Old 01-30-2003, 02:57 PM   #9
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someone should complain to spamcop and their host telling them that they are spamming. Get spamcop shut down!!! Wouldn't that be funny!!!!
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:00 PM   #10
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Do you also believe that Bill Gates will send you money for forwarding his email on to all your friends?

Take your fucking dumb ass elsewhere, that's a scam mail sent by spammers to discredit spamcop.
not to be confrontational, but here's the headers from the one i got.....
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Delivered-To: [email protected]
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
(forwarded by [email protected])
by mail.national-net.com with local; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:20 -0500
Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: from spamcop.net (softdnserr [::ffff:200.68.191.15])
by mail.national-net.com with esmtp; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:03 -0500
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Spamcop.net 2nd warning!!! 6350El-6
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:59:39 -1000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D3_67B83E6E.C2761A02"
X-Priority: 1
X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster
Importance: Normal
=================================

are these forged or is it from spamcop?
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:00 PM   #11
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Do you also believe that Bill Gates will send you money for forwarding his email on to all your friends?

Take your fucking dumb ass elsewhere, that's a scam mail sent by spammers to discredit spamcop.
Yep, those come out every once in awhile. Haight has had to redirect stuff quite a bit.

This one was actually intelligently written, who knew. Grammatically, I mean. Noone with half a brain would take it seriously based on the subject matter.

But it was amsuing to see the spam wannabes come out of the woodwork to rail on SpamCop. It's so eeeeevil!
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:01 PM   #12
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What bullshit from those guys. Get all the hackers together, port scan, DDOS attacks. If I am not mistaken, a company was sued for port scanning and won a judgement. Don't remember the URL but it was great reading.

RBL's I think are a great service to add to blocking out spam, but when you start blocking UUNet, Sprint and a slew of other Tier 1 providers, you are asking to start losing business.

Spam sucks, but they should be fighting this on a legistalitve level and not like they are still in Jr High looking to retaliate.

You need to post that at some hosting boards and see what the reaction will be. They will be pissed to say the least.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:03 PM   #13
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Received: from spamcop.net (softdnserr [::ffff:200.68.191.15])

spamcop.net resolves to 216.127.43.86

The actual sending IP is under LACNIC. Hmmm!
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:13 PM   #14
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guess whose worse a spammer or an anti-spammer

them anti sure can go crazy at times
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:18 PM   #15
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by GregP
FUCK SPAMCOP [/QUOTE

I second the motion!
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:19 PM   #16
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http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/124.html

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Old 01-30-2003, 03:20 PM   #17
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guess whose worse a spammer or an anti-spammer

them anti sure can go crazy at times
Dude, read the thread - this email is from a spammer trying to discredit spamcop.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:25 PM   #18
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Every now and then I got Emails from them too. Today was such a day. The funny thing is that he sends out notices for domains I don't even have emails set up to nor does my server allow to send email with that domain path.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:28 PM   #19
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Dude, read the thread - this email is from a spammer trying to discredit spamcop.
Oh yes, the truth is out there

But it's still funny. Personally I don't like spamcop, because they some years ago they blocked my mail server because of they thought I'm sending spam. I was just sending my weekly e-mail to my opt-in 16k mailing list! I couldn't get customer e-mails for 3 days and I lost money. I was not spamming, this spamcop names EVERY PORN MAILER SPAMMER !

And I believe it's useless I'm still getting around 1000 spams every day. Spammers always find a way, they must fight with them on court.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:43 PM   #20
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Spamcop doesn't block shit. Spamcop has a blacklist which they DON'T RECOMMEND that ISPs use to block. If you got on SPEWs or MAPS it because you were spamming.

It's always the spammers bitching about spamcop, what a fucking surprise.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:45 PM   #21
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Not true, they will block whole C-and B classes if you are on the same network as a spammer, and if you take over an IP block from a ISP that had a spammer, well you are fucked.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:52 PM   #22
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Not true, they will block whole C-and B classes if you are on the same network as a spammer, and if you take over an IP block from a ISP that had a spammer, well you are fucked.
Yes, and after all, spamcop controls such a large section of the internet, that their block is very powerful.

Can't fucking read? Yes, they have a blacklist. Yes, they are overzealous in what they block. They also say to ISPs to NOT USE IT! They recommend SPEWs or MAPS instead.

That's like saying because I block spam from ifriends that "Oh my god, IFriends entire class C is blocked! Backov's got him on his block list, woe is me."

Grab a clue.
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Old 01-30-2003, 03:59 PM   #23
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Spamcop doesn't block shit. Spamcop has a blacklist which they DON'T RECOMMEND that ISPs use to block. If you got on SPEWs or MAPS it because you were spamming.

It's always the spammers bitching about spamcop, what a fucking surprise.
I know how they block. 'Block' means generic as I don't want to write the system of how it works here. Read my message carefully again. It writes that I'm not a spammer. My first and last spam was at 1996 on my lame days. I'm emailing to my mailing list.
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Old 01-30-2003, 04:18 PM   #24
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Here is the complete e-mail

Fuck them... but fake letter nonetheless.
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Old 01-31-2003, 03:28 AM   #25
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Here is the complete e-mail

'Hello, my fellow net citizens. I am writing today to let you know that I have decided to declare war on all spammers and the backbones and tier 1 providers who support them!

Working together with my associates, Joe Jared of SPEWS and Julian Haight of SpamCop we will stop the world and we may even shut down the entire Internet if necessary.

It is time that we stopped them ! To do this I will need the help of every able minded hacker. We need to put together a campaign of server hacking, site damaging, port scanning, virus infusions and DOS attacks. Any of you who have the skills to help on this project, please contact one of us below:

Steve Linford - [email protected]
Joe Jared - [email protected]
Julian Haight - [email protected] or [email protected]


We will be happy to give you a most interesting assignment.

Our first targets will be W#rldCom and H#tmail. W#rldcom, because it hosts more spammers that any other provider and Hotmail because it hosts most of the spammers real email addresses. We have to shut these 2 down now !

If the spammers happen to see this message (how can they miss it - I am sending out 20 million copies), they should take my advice and take their business to http://whitehat.com and pay a few dollars for a proper email campaign.

We may need some money to carry on our battle, so please, send all you can to me via PayPay using [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] Address as the recipient. If you do not have a credit card, then please send your cash or check to me at:

The Spamhaus Project
The Phoenix
Taggs Island
Offshore
TW12 2HA
GB

Make checks payable to "Steve Linford"

Or

SpamCop Donation
PO BOX 25732
Seattle, WA 98125
206-362-5759 voice

Make checks payable to "Julian Haight"

Or

Spews.org
Osirusoft
405-B W. Tularosa
Orange, CA 92866
US
714-997-0375 voice
714-532-4731 fax

Make checks payable to "Joe Jared"


I know that together we will be able to stop them all and put their backbones into bankruptcy.

Now, let's all have fun and put an end to the spambags!!!

Steve Linford - God of the Internet'

Steve Linford @ Spamhaus told me that this is a joe job, they didn't send it.
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Old 01-31-2003, 03:33 AM   #26
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This is so obviously fake it doesn't deserve comment. I love SpamCop and use them daily.
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Old 01-31-2003, 03:36 AM   #27
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Spam is here for life, who can go wrong with free direct marketing to millions of people?

I agree with playa in saying that prevention is a better spent 10 minutes than taking action for the rest of your time on the net.
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