Lorelei

I tried to submit a researched response, but the forum program says I can't post URLs until I've posted 30 times here. So here's an expurgated version of my message.

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SoCalKev asks "which link(s), or banner(s); does bondagedirectory have to remove so that CCBill would drop their objections?"

These words appear in BondageDirectory's first page metatags, and there are a few website listings to match:

"torture, pain, pierce, piercing, golden showers, wartersports, fistfuck, fist, facial, fisting, fistfucking, facials"

Here's an excerpt from a September 2005 email notice that surrenderedsoul received from CCBill:

"Violating Offsite Links (Underage Diaper Rape Bodily Excretions )
bondagedirectory
bondagegirls dot net
fetbot "

Here's an excerpt from a May 2006 email notice that ashleyrenee received from CCBill:

"AUP Violations
Violating Offsite Links (Underage Rape Bodily Excretions )
bondagedirectory "

CCBill contacted her a day later and told her to unlink bondagegirls dot net.

Regarding content:

I am very concerned about Rosie's report that "Friends who've complied and been told last week they were back in good standing have again had mails from CCBill screaming about new AUP violations that were, I guess, not violations last week."

If sites are trying hard to comply with CCBill but being thwarted, CCBill needs to try to come up with a way to be consistent. I agree with SilentKnight's statement in this thread that there are "glaring inconsistencies" and this is a problem since webmasters are genuinely TRYING to comply when CCBill contacts them.

Other sites' situations:

SurrenderedSoul reported that their content was approved by CCBill, then about 9 months later they were told to remove a bunch of the content that had previously been okayed.

AshleyRenee dot com reports that during their CCBill review last week, content that was previously okay is now unacceptable. She has removed many sets from her site that CCBill told her to take down. She's made an enormous effort to get into compliance but she noted that from day to day, depending on which representative she talks to, the exact interpretations of the AUP change in regards to the content on her site.

Regarding categorizations of violations:

A photoset where my boyfriend came up behind Ashley, and grabbed and tied her up, was rated unacceptable under the "rape" designation because coming up behind someone to grab them looks non consensual.

So, readers of this thread who were wondering over the "no rape" rule, you see that CCBill staff apply the "no rape" categorization broadly.

Ashley has made a herculean effort to get into total compliance with CCBill, phoning them for feedback at every step and assuring them she will do anything they say.

Regarding CCBill's exact AUP:

CCBill's Acceptable Use Policies dated June 2005:
businesscenter dot ccbill dot com slash html_forms slash aupt.html

The above link does not quite match a version one website received in an email from CCBill in September 2005. Here's a summary of the categories that were described in the September 2005 email. (I compiled this summary back then, to keep in my records so that I could refer to it):

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Cannot have on webpages/site and cannot link to such webpages/sites.
Any and all depictions and/or actual occurrences and/or content and/or marketing and/or references to:
1. Underage: Provocative and/or Non-Provocative; including Hentai or animations.
2. Rape: Rape, involuntary sex or forced sex; in all mediums including Hentai or animations.
3. Bodily Excretions: Scat/fecal matter, person to person watersports, and/or a woman's period or menstruation.
4. Extreme Violence: Acts of extreme violence, and/or depictions of extreme violence in all mediums including Hentai or animations. Extreme pain and/or implying and/or suggesting extreme pain. Flogging (severe beating).
5. Bloodletting or Bloodshed. Consumption of Blood. Self-mutilation. Cannibalism. Depiction of gore inflicted by oneself and/or another individual or group. 'Snuff' or 'Fantasy Snuff' content and/or content involving or implying death or serious bodily injury. Autopsy photos.
6. Diaper Fetish: Diapers, Diaper Fetish and/or sites which depict models in diapers in all mediums including Hentai or animations; Sexual or Non-Sexual.

Forbidden on CCBill's website but not mentioned in the email list at the time: Bestiality, Incest.

Not forbidden on CCBill's website and not in the email list, but forbidden according to CCBill staff in phone calls: Chloroform (chloro, chloroformed), Kidnap (kidnapped, kidnapping), Ransom.

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Regarding "Extreme Violence":

A drawing on Ashley's site of a damsel near a saw blade was categorized as such and therefore deleted. So bondage sites must keep in mind that old fashioned damsel in distress peril, even where no one is physically harmed and rescue is implied, that still qualifies as Extreme Violence and is not acceptable to CCBill.

CCBill is operating within the U.S. and they have to keep U.S. Visa, Mastercard, and their merchant bank/s happy or they'll be history. So webmasters complaining to CCBill, that won't help the situation. If a photographer or model wants to express their fantasies of bondage roleplay, bondage peril, or bondage conflict, they'll probably just have to switch to overseas billing services. :(

Until the overseas billing services decide our fantasies are obscene, too...! ;)