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Originally Posted by RonC
SilentKnight
Corvette is out on vacation so we did not notice this thread till now. Yes we do let him take a vacation every 5 years even if he does not need it. The simple fact is that both Visa and Mastercard have Zero tolerance for certain types of adult material. Rape just happens to be one of those categories. Just like the Teen Site operators have to be concerned on how their sites are being "MARKETED" which is the same as being linked to in the Card Associations mind. The Bondage Market has to be concerned with Rape.
If you think this is a joke just ask one of my competitors why they had to change there name from Mysomething. I can also tell you that there are a couple of other companies in very hot water with MasterCard over this very issue.
CCbill has not had any trouble with this issue, nor do we plan to ever have any trouble. This is why our Compliance Department works 24hrs a day to review all our sites.
I am sure that the people at BondageDirectory.com are great people but if they wish to link to paysites that promote sales via Visa and Mastercard they will have to prohibit certain types of content. It is just that simple.
I am going to bed guys I have a 7am flight for business in the Morning so time to rest. I hope this answers your questions if not I will try to look in on Wed night.
Ron Cadwell
CEO
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Ron, thanks for the reply and explanation. I assure you none of this is regarded as "a joke" - since this involves not only personal lifestyle and freedom of choice...but also livelihood for many of us.
While I understand Visa and Mastercard's issues with regards to rape content - there appears to be a very subjective interpretation and glaring inconsistencies on the part of CCBill's compliance dept. as to just what constitutes 'rape content'. This is the focus of my questions.
BondageDirectory.com has long been the de facto link site for the bondage/fetish niche industry (since 1999) - and a great number of bondage-related websites have enjoyed long-standing and lucrative link affiliations with them. BondageDirectory.com was recently acquired by Cybernet Entertainment - and to my knowledge does not have the benefit of accessing the pay member's area of websites they currently link with to ascertain and judge the content (based on CCBill's subjective standards). CCBill is essentially asking the impossible. Furthermore - CCBill is indiscriminately requiring bondage webmasters to remove links to BondageDirectory based on issues no one has control over.
Let's put this is simple terms to understand. Essentially - your company is telling us that we can't play ball with John Q. down the street because he's an acquaintance of Jimmy J.
CCBill seems incapable of interpreting and distinguishing consentual roleplay content in this regard. One person's fantasy roleplay in a consentual capacity is another person's interpretation of 'rape'. Just like a Hollywood movie that contains a rape scene is NOT a documentary - but entertainment...so too are websites that contain bdsm scenes acted out by paid, consentual adult performers.
But depending on which CCBill rep you ask - these standards are applied very inconsistently.
Now I know much of this will essentially fall on deaf ears since CCBill will merely pass the buck along and say "blame Visa and Mastercard - its their standards" - but our main issue at this stage is the glaring inconsistencies and subjective whims that CCBill is utilizing at this point and time. Quite obviously my observations are shared by a great number of bondage and fetish colleagues as witnessed on many webmaster forums these days. You might also wish to check out the ongoing discussions on BondagePhotography Yahoo group (one of the largest and most influential bondage/fetish industry forums online) -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bondagephotography/ - and read the many concerns of real people in the industry.