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Originally posted by mika
What is freedom?
It's just a word used by media, politicians and other people who want to influence masses.
Well I gotta couple of questions
a. Why do American consider themselves to be any more free than other Western people?
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I am not aware that we do.
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I think I'm extremely free here in Finland, even more free than I would be in most of the states in USA. I have nearly perfect freedom as long as I don't hurt other people.
Freedom of speech? Fuck, in Japan they allow simulated rape porn clips, in some states in the USA even a goddamn blowjob is illegal.
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I suspect, without actually knowing it to be fact, that some things that are legal in the US are not legal in Finland. Unless you have at your finger tips all laws in existence in both countries, you cannot factually deny, what is my suspicion.
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b. Why does US government say that it's defending the freedom of American people when it goes to war?
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Freedom and national interest, while technically having different meanings, are often used interchangably.
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Tell me, exactly, how do small arab/whatever countries threaten your PERSONAL freedom?
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They don't threaten my personal freedom.
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We can't be so mislead that we think that a guy like Osama could take away the freedom of the whole American nation, can we?
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No we can't because he can't.
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Yes, you could claim that two planes hitting twin towers took away the freedom of the people who died, but why does it have to be a foreign threat when it is considered a threat to freedom?
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Definitely took away their freedom with extreme prejudice. I would suppose that it doesn't have to be a foreign threat, but in this case it was foreigners that flew the planes into the WTC and they were sponsored by one or more foriegn entities who officially declared war on the US in words and in actions.
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Crime and drugs kill more people than any fucking terrorist ever will, but domestic issues like these are not threats to freedom.
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Kill more yes, the rest of the statement is arguable and might be good for debate.
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"Freedom" is the system in which people spend dollars, yenis, euros, marks. And that is what actually must be defended. Using the word "freedom" instead of "free market" just sounds better to an uneducated Joe.
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If you prefer to use "free market" please feel free to do so. I personally prefer "national interest'.
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To Average Joe freedom equals being able to flip the channels on TV and watch the commercials of a Japanese or Arab owned company.
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If you enjoy watching commercials please feel free to do so. I have no problem with it Joe.