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mika · 10-11-2002, 01:40 PM

What is freedom?

It's just a word used by media, politicians and other people who want to influence masses.

Well I gotta couple of questions

a. Why do American consider themselves to be any more free than other Western people?

I think I'm extremely free here in Finland, even more free than I would be in most of the states in USA. I have nearly perfect freedom as long as I don't hurt other people.
Freedom of speech? Fuck, in Japan they allow simulated rape porn clips, in some states in the USA even a goddamn blowjob is illegal.

b. Why does US government say that it's defending the freedom of American people when it goes to war?

Tell me, exactly, how do small arab/whatever countries threaten your PERSONAL freedom? We can't be so mislead that we think that a guy like Osama could take away the freedom of the whole American nation, can we? Yes, you could claim that two planes hitting twin towers took away the freedom of the people who died, but why does it have to be a foreign threat when it is considered a threat to freedom? Crime and drugs kill more people than any fucking terrorist ever will, but domestic issues like these are not threats to freedom.

"Freedom" is the system in which people spend dollars, yenis, euros, marks. And that is what actually must be defended. Using the word "freedom" instead of "free market" just sounds better to an uneducated Joe. To Average Joe freedom equals being able to flip the channels on TV and watch the commercials of a Japanese or Arab owned company.

10-11-2002, 01:40 PM
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	American illusion called FREEDOM What is freedom? It's just a word used by media, politicians and other people who want to influence masses. Well I gotta couple of questions a. Why do American consider themselves to be any more free than other Western people? I think I'm extremely free here in Finland, even more free than I would be in most of the states in USA. I have nearly perfect freedom as long as I don't hurt other people. Freedom of speech? Fuck, in Japan they allow simulated rape porn clips, in some states in the USA even a goddamn blowjob is illegal. b. Why does US government say that it's defending the freedom of American people when it goes to war? Tell me, exactly, how do small arab/whatever countries threaten your PERSONAL freedom? We can't be so mislead that we think that a guy like Osama could take away the freedom of the whole American nation, can we? Yes, you could claim that two planes hitting twin towers took away the freedom of the people who died, but why does it have to be a foreign threat when it is considered a threat to freedom? Crime and drugs kill more people than any fucking terrorist ever will, but domestic issues like these are not threats to freedom. "Freedom" is the system in which people spend dollars, yenis, euros, marks. And that is what actually must be defended. Using the word "freedom" instead of "free market" just sounds better to an uneducated Joe. To Average Joe freedom equals being able to flip the channels on TV and watch the commercials of a Japanese or Arab owned company.