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Originally Posted by rants
Also I think "old money" is more prestigious than "new money, people born into money are have different manners and more refined taste usually.
A sociologist named Warner said:
"American social class was based more on attitudes than on the actual amount of money an individual made. For example, the richest people in America would belong to the "lower-upper class" since many of them created their own fortunes; one can only be born into the highest class. Nonetheless, members of the wealthy upper-upper class tend to be more powerful, as a simple survey of U.S. presidents may demonstrate (i.e., the Roosevelts; John Kennedy; the Bushes)"
This makes me think it's more than about just money.
Also here is how class is defined:
* occupation
* education
* income
* manners, style and cultural refinement. For example, Bourdieu suggests a notion of high and low classes with a distinction between bourgeois tastes and sensitivities and the working class tastes and sensitivities.
* net worth
* power
* ownership of land, property, means of production, slaves...
* political standing vis-à-vis the government
* reputation of honor or disgrace
* social prestige, as from an honorary title, or association with an esteemed organization or person
* Language, the distinction between elaborate code, which is seen as a citerion for "upper-class", and the restricted code, which is associated with "lower classes"
Income is PART of it, but not all I think.
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You can be stupid, not know how to manage money and get rich... you don't laways have to be the smartest tool of the bunch.
People who have been for generations have tons of contacts, and know what to do with their money to make it work for them.
I guess that's what they are talking about.
I personally think knowledge is 80 % of class... knowledge of how to talk / treat people. About having class by spending a lot of money in a restaurent ... well in mtl there is 2 italian restorants who's cuisines are the same ... one charge 25-30 $ per plate, other charge 8-10. Same shit.
Class is an illusion to a lot of people.