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rants · 05-17-2006, 08:58 PM

Also I think "old money" is more prestigious than "new money, people born into money are have different manners and more refined taste usually.

A sociologist named Warner said:

"American social class was based more on attitudes than on the actual amount of money an individual made. For example, the richest people in America would belong to the "lower-upper class" since many of them created their own fortunes; one can only be born into the highest class. Nonetheless, members of the wealthy upper-upper class tend to be more powerful, as a simple survey of U.S. presidents may demonstrate (i.e., the Roosevelts; John Kennedy; the Bushes)"

This makes me think it's more than about just money.

Also here is how class is defined:

* occupation
* education
* income
* manners, style and cultural refinement. For example, Bourdieu suggests a notion of high and low classes with a distinction between bourgeois tastes and sensitivities and the working class tastes and sensitivities.
* net worth
* power
* ownership of land, property, means of production, slaves...
* political standing vis-à-vis the government
* reputation of honor or disgrace
* social prestige, as from an honorary title, or association with an esteemed organization or person
* Language, the distinction between elaborate code, which is seen as a citerion for "upper-class", and the restricted code, which is associated with "lower classes"

Income is PART of it, but not all I think.

05-17-2006, 08:58 PM
rants Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 654	Also I think "old money" is more prestigious than "new money, people born into money are have different manners and more refined taste usually. A sociologist named Warner said: "American social class was based more on attitudes than on the actual amount of money an individual made. For example, the richest people in America would belong to the "lower-upper class" since many of them created their own fortunes; one can only be born into the highest class. Nonetheless, members of the wealthy upper-upper class tend to be more powerful, as a simple survey of U.S. presidents may demonstrate (i.e., the Roosevelts; John Kennedy; the Bushes)" This makes me think it's more than about just money. Also here is how class is defined: * occupation * education * income * manners, style and cultural refinement. For example, Bourdieu suggests a notion of high and low classes with a distinction between bourgeois tastes and sensitivities and the working class tastes and sensitivities. * net worth * power * ownership of land, property, means of production, slaves... * political standing vis-à-vis the government * reputation of honor or disgrace * social prestige, as from an honorary title, or association with an esteemed organization or person * Language, the distinction between elaborate code, which is seen as a citerion for "upper-class", and the restricted code, which is associated with "lower classes" Income is PART of it, but not all I think. Last edited by rants; 05-17-2006 at 09:00 PM..