CoolE

Okay there seems to be a little miscommunication here. My facts are completely accurate.

I was answering this question here:
> I have talked a couple of webmasters who are saying "Gee I
> guess I move my billing" I tell them that they might loose their
> rebills. True or false?

And I said:
> Absolutely you will lose the rebills. They aren't your customers
> they are CCBill's. When the surfer signed up they agreed to let
> CCBill charge/rebill them, and no one else.

If you move your billing from one 3rd party biller (IPSP) to another company, you cannot take your current members with you to that new company and have the new company process your rebills on those members. You can't do that because they aren't really your customers they are your old IPSPs customers, in the sense that they hold the member's credit card info and will not reveal it to anyone including another IPSP. That is what I was referring to.

You can still, in theory, keep your rebills by merging the password files from both your old biller and new biller. In effect using two IPSPs, one for your old customers (all rebills) and one for new customers (new sign-ups and new rebills).

But I wasn't considering the possibility of the second option in this case because the whole context of this conversation is that Visa will (or may) cut off webmaster accounts at CCBill (and elsewhere) if they don't comply to the new regs. And in the documents provided by CCBill, Epoch and IBill they have clearly said that co-billing with one IPSP that is complying with the regs and one that isn't (or is on a different Visa region) will not be permitted by Visa USA.

In otherwords, we aren't talking about moving away from CCBill just for NEW sign-ups, we are talking about having to move from CCBill completely and say goodbye to all rebills when we are cut off for ignoring the new requirements.

So what I said is completely accurate in the context of what we are talking about here. I hope that helps clarify.